2024 US Presidential Election Thread

[Blitz24]

Nikki Haley is trounced by the 'none of these candidates' option in Nevada's Republican primary

Trump didn’t compete in Tuesday’s primary, which doesn’t award any delegates needed to win the GOP nomination.

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What I don't get is why she was the only option on the caucus and Trump is the only option on the primary. Why have either?

 

[Eunos_Cosmo]

What I don't get is why she was the only option on the caucus and Trump is the only option on the primary. Why have either?

Because the GOP decided they didn't want to do the Primary so they made it non-binding and will select their delegates from the caucus. I guess the Primary is far too democratic for their liking.

 

[Blitz24]

Because the GOP decided they didn't want to do the Primary so they made it non-binding and will select their delegates from the caucus. I guess the Primary is far too democratic for their liking.

Which means that either nobody or Trump gets the nomination and effectively means if Trump is somehow ruled ineligible for office, Nevada just nominated "Insert Name Here" as their candidate.

 

[Pupik]

Because the GOP decided they didn't want to do the Primary so they made it non-binding and will select their delegates from the caucus. I guess the Primary is far too democratic for their liking.

And to top it off, one could vote separately in both, which probably explains the thrown votes for none of the above.

 

[TexRex]

lol. lmao.

EXCLUSIVE: RNC Spent $1.5 Million on Floral Arrangements, Limos, Management/Media Consultants

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They're doing the dril candle tweet.

 

[Keef]

I think it would be extra funny if after winning the election, Biden nominates Haley to some office which she'd actually be good for. She loses the election but still gets a job, now that would really piss off Trump lmao.

 

[UKMikey]

I think it would be extra funny if after winning the election, Biden nominates Haley to some office which she'd actually be good for. She loses the election but still gets a job, now that would really piss off Trump lmao.

It'd be food for the deep state uniparty conspiracists who think everyone and everything is allied against them and Trump.

Not that that would matter much. Haley does have some weird takes though. Should this scenario ever play out, it probably wouldn't be a good idea to put her anywhere near a position where she's able to pardon Trump as she promised.

 

[Keef]

It'd be food for the deep state uniparty conspiracists who think everyone and everything is allied against them and Trump.

Not that that would matter much. Haley does have some weird takes though. Should this scenario ever play out, it probably wouldn't be a good idea to put her anywhere near a position where she's able to pardon Trump as she promised.

I was thinking something like an ambassador lol. Definitely on the fringes. She's not cabinet-worthy by any means. She actually was our UN ambassador for a bit during Trump but obviously her task was to be an asshole at the time.

 

[Yard_Sale]

I was thinking something like an ambassador lol. Definitely on the fringes. She's not cabinet-worthy by any means. She actually was our UN ambassador for a bit during Trump but obviously her task was to be an asshole at the time.

On the other side of the coin, I wonder how RFK could fit into a Trump administration. He seems like he’d be a waste of talent if he wasn’t used somewhere. Even though both candidates have pretty much denied a possible allegiance, I could still see Trump approaching RFK as a running mate if he’s determined that his presence on the ballot could strip away too many votes. On that token, both Biden and Trump could use him, but Biden already set his path of preference for VP pick last election cycle.

I’ll still be shocked if Trump doesn’t pick Tim Scott though

 

[TheCracker]

On the other side of the coin, I wonder how RFK could fit into a Trump administration. He seems like he’d be a waste of talent if he wasn’t used somewhere.

He could chair a Select Committee on Conspiracy Theories.

 

[Keef]

On the other side of the coin, I wonder how RFK could fit into a Trump administration. He seems like he’d be a waste of talent if he wasn’t used somewhere. Even though both candidates have pretty much denied a possible allegiance, I could still see Trump approaching RFK as a running mate if he’s determined that his presence on the ballot could strip away too many votes. On that token, both Biden and Trump could use him, but Biden already set his path of preference for VP pick last election cycle.

I’ll still be shocked if Trump doesn’t pick Tim Scott though

Putting a Kennedy back in government would be a sin. That dynasty dies with Bobby. The only president we've had in my lifetime that was as decent as JFK was Obama so people like that don't come along very often and Bobby is an embarrassment to that lineage. Most of the others were.

 

[TexRex]

I wonder how RFK could fit into a Trump administration.

I say you he dead!

 

[Dennisch]

I can't wait for the debates. You've got a senile spaghetti sauce coloured Elvis impersonator vs a senile man who is definitely no longer fit for any sort of work.

 

[GranTurNismo]

I can't wait for the debates. You've got a senile spaghetti sauce coloured Elvis impersonator vs a senile man who is definitely no longer fit for any sort of work.

So... Trump debating himself?

 

[Yard_Sale]

I can't wait for the debates. You've got a senile spaghetti sauce coloured Elvis impersonator vs a senile man who is definitely no longer fit for any sort of work.

Biden won’t make it to the debates. Robert Hur’s comments on the Biden documents case (although accurate) are objectively unnecessary…and reek of a somewhat coordinated effort to force his hand not to run.

I think it’s going to end up being a Harris-Newsom ticket, or a Harris-Obama ticket for the democrats

 

[Dennisch]

So... Trump debating himself?

Biden is just as much gone as the orange one. Just less delusional when it comes to his own image.

 

[Blitz24]

Biden won’t make it to the debates. Robert Hur’s comments on the Biden documents case (although accurate) are objectively unnecessary…and reek of a somewhat coordinated effort to force his hand not to run.

I think it’s going to end up being a Harris-Newsom ticket, or a Harris-Obama ticket for the democrats

Very unlikely that will happen. If Biden does not run, I don't believe Harris will lead a ticket.

 

[Liquid]

Biden is a doddering old fart who probably means well but might not do it the right way.
Trump is an evil yet dangerously moronic bigot with the intellectual capacity of dog food.

Tough call.

 

[Keef]

Biden won’t make it to the debates. Robert Hur’s comments on the Biden documents case (although accurate) are objectively unnecessary…and reek of a somewhat coordinated effort to force his hand not to run.

I think it’s going to end up being a Harris-Newsom ticket, or a Harris-Obama ticket for the democrats

Why on earth don't you think he'll debate? He's just old, he's not dead. You've got some strange fantasies going on here.

 

[Yard_Sale]

Very unlikely that will happen. If Biden does not run, I don't believe Harris will lead a ticket.

Agreed. They’d be stupid to have her at the front of the ticket. But good luck forcing HER out.

You can’t have Michelle at the front of the ticket. Not enough experience (yeah, yeah, yeah…Trump did it in 2016), but all Trump would have to do is make Scott as his running mate, and he would help fight that battle on the optics front. And Newsom, unfortunately would be just as easy as the likes of DeSantis to pick apart.

The best option for them (mind you I’m not especially privy to the minor players in the Democratic Party) would be Newsom somewhere on the ticket.

Why on earth don't you think he'll debate? He's just old, he's not dead. You've got some strange fantasies going on here.

He won’t make it to the debates, because they’ll force him out at the convention, or he’ll withdraw on his own…still leaving it to be decided at the convention

…I assumed that went without saying.

 

[Keef]

The best option for them (mind you I’m not especially privy to the minor players in the Democratic Party) would be Newsom somewhere on the ticket.

Nobody outside of California likes Newsome. Come to think of it, Californians don't like Newsome either.

Edit:

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He won’t make it to the debates, because they’ll force him out at the convention.

…I assumed that went without saying.

I just don't see this happening at all, barring some catastrophic health issue before the election. There's no reason to oust Biden. People aren't happy but Americans are never happy, we hate ourselves and everybody around us. Stability is key for Democrats at the moment and it's one of the biggest advantages they have over Republicans.

 

[Yard_Sale]

Nobody outside of California likes Newsome. Come to think of it, Californians don't like Newsome either.

We don’t.

But I’ll give it to him - he’s charismatic. And California voted overwhelmingly TO NOT recall him. And his views are in-line with the coastal democrat views by and large. I’m sure the media would be able to take care of the rest, and persuade the middle of the country’s Democratic base to begrudgingly follow suit.


@Keef

I don’t disagree that stability is key for the democrats. But being labeled as senile by a special counsel for the public to see is a very big deal, and probably unprecedented. Personally, I don’t think it’s done by accident either.

At the very least, it will increase the already existing public pressure for Biden to withdrawal. I’ll be curious to see how this plays out. Maybe WE WILL finally get to see a push up contest between Biden and Trump 😂

 

[Keef]

We don’t.

But I’ll give it to him - he’s charismatic. And California voted overwhelmingly TO NOT recall him. And his views are in-line with the coastal democrat views by and large. I’m sure the media would be able to take care of the rest, and persuade the middle of the country’s Democratic base to begrudgingly follow suit.

That "coastal democrat" thing is his biggest problem. Most of the country's Democrats aren't coastal and frankly we can't stand the mindset.

Gretchen Whitmer from Michigan is an example of a Democrat that feels more genuine and agreeable to us than Newsome.

 

[TexRex]

He won’t make it to the debates, because they’ll force him out at the convention, or he’ll withdraw on his own…still leaving it to be decided at the convention

It's funny because Trumpers once so active here were insistent that Biden would be ousted from the presidency prior to inauguration and maintained that position right up until they noped out of this subforum, if not the site entirely. Trumpers have only ever parroted the punditry because they're wholly incapable of original thought.

Edit: It's actually not funny. It would be if it wasn't so sad.

 

[Yard_Sale]

That "coastal democrat" thing is his biggest problem. Most of the country's Democrats aren't coastal and frankly we can't stand the mindset.

Gretchen Whitmer from Michigan is an example of a Democrat that feels more genuine and agreeable to us than Newsome.

That’s an easy spin. Just run the same play in 2020 that they ran with Biden.

It’s a choice of either Newsom…or TRUMP 😳

It's funny because Trumpers once so active here were insistent that Biden would be ousted from the presidency prior to inauguration and maintained that position right up until they noped out of this subforum, if not the site entirely. Trumpers have only ever parroted the punditry because they're wholly incapable of original thought.

Edit: It's actually not funny. It would be if it wasn't so sad.

Well, those type of people are idiots. That’s why I laugh at those on both sides that are so far one way or the other on the political spectrum. They’re so invested in a specific ideology, that they are completely incapable of seeing the bigger picture. Nor can they fathom that there are people with different perspectives and opinions - and the vast majority of those people are somewhere in the middle.


But to the media’s credit, they’ve done a great job of propagating the illusion that the very opposite ends of each political ideology, IS REPRESENATIVE of that entire constituency as a whole. They’ve successfully turned politics into religion, on a pop culture scale.

 

[TexRex]

Well, those type of people are idiots.

lol. "Those."

 

[Keef]

I don’t disagree that stability is key for the democrats. But being labeled as senile by a special counsel for the public to see is a very big deal, and probably unprecedented. Personally, I don’t think it’s done by accident either.

Unprecedented for that prosecutor's career, yeah. As in inflammatory remarks like that are going to end it.

The investigation only took a year and the result was no charges.

 

[TexRex]

Republicans: "MUELLER DEEP STATE WITCH HUNT!!!"

Also Republicans: "ReEeEeEeEeEeEeEeEeEeEeEeEe!!¡!"

Also Republicans: "Wow this is bad for Biden."

 

[McLaren]

But to the media’s credit, they’ve done a great job of propagating the illusion that the very opposite ends of each political ideology, IS REPRESENATIVE of that entire constituency as a whole. They’ve successfully turned politics into religion, on a pop culture scale.

Cult 45 did that on its own. It hasn't needed the media to cast the idea that all Republicans are representative of the far end of the spectrum when it has members in Congress literally saying, "We will eradicate you if you don't align with Trump" & members of that same party saying, "They won't vote on a bill b/c it damages Trump".

“Not only do [Republicans] support President Trump, we support his policies,” Greene told MSNBC Monday night. “And any Republican that isn’t willing to adapt these policies, we’re completely eradicating from the party. So it’s up to Nikki Haley, what she does.”

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“I think the border is a very important issue for Donald Trump,” Romney said. “And the fact that he would communicate to Republican senators and congresspeople that he doesn’t want us to solve the border problem because he wants to blame Biden for it is really appalling.”

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If this is how the party is going to operate out in the open, by their own words & actions, then Republican voters have no one to blame but their own representatives for being painted in the same light. Ya'll voted in majority for these people.

 

[Danoff]

The supreme court just finished oral arguments about Donald Trump's candidacy for 2024, and they appear to be set to rule unanimously or nearly-unanimously that Colorado cannot remove Trump from the ballot under the 14th amendment. In doing so, I believe the court is answering the wrong question. They appear to be asking whether a state has the authority to independently decide whether a candidate is eligible under the 14th amendment - as though the state can make this determination for themselves independently of any other state. As thought it is a state's right to make this determination, and this determination affects them and only them. This of course seems silly and unworkable as every state might come to a different conclusion, and a national election would be rendered impossible or unworkable.

In actuality the state of colorado appears to me to be attempting to perform its duty to interpret the constitution faithfully, just as it would in any other case. Rather than being asked whether colorado can make this determination independently, the supreme court is being asked whether colorado has interpreted the constitution correctly. Each state must constantly attempt to interpret the constitution correctly, and when it does not, the supreme court is asked to set the record straight. The question to the supreme court then is not whether colorado can interpret the 14th amendment, in fact it has a duty to interpret all constitutional amendments. The question at hand is whether it has done so correctly. That question appears to be completely absent from the supreme court's consideration of its case, and in the process, I believe they have absent-mindedly shirked their responsibilities to the nation.

They appear to be poised to leave us without the protections of the 14th amendment, tearing a hole in the constitution, and ignoring a amendment that was hard-earned.