2024 US Presidential Election Thread

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I just hope that Stewart is needling Biden to start with to dispell any accusation of partisanship and then attack Trump as heavily as he should be doing because democracy and the United States really are at stake.
Me too. For both Stewart and, especially, the Dems, it's time to **** or get off the pot or America might be sleepwalking into a disastrous Trump presidency while the pundits argue amongst themselves.
 
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If Lincoln and Washington had Tsars Alexander II and Catherine II's social media bots behind them, they'd have a pretty good chance against Trump IMO.

'Maketh the Colonies Mickle Again'
I suspect Alex and Cathy would be more likely to employ the then current technology of conscripting a majority of serfs and peasants instead.

Thank goodness Russian leaders resorting to leveraging their large population in the support of imperialist aims is a thing of the past. laughs in Ukraine invasion
 
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Abraham Lincoln and George Washington were both elected to two terms and would be ineligible to run, therefore could not beat Trump.

It's a low benchmark.
 
Abraham Lincoln and George Washington were both elected to two terms and would be ineligible to run, therefore could not beat Trump.

It's a low benchmark.
They could beat him with a stick, although that's more Teddy Roosevelt's thing.
 
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They could beat him with a stick, although that's more Teddy Roosevelt's thing.
They came back from the dead so they wouldn't need to beat him, just to eat his brain. I assume that wouldn't be such a tall task.
 
Abraham Lincoln and George Washington were both elected to two terms and would be ineligible to run
I'm sure Trump's going to try & change that rule, like my buddy Vladimir did in Russia, so there's still hope for Abe & George.
 

This certainly hit home. I went to vote this morning and felt the same way. The choices are staggeringly bad, in my opinion, but I still found it necessary to vote because we had the school millage and the rednecks around here a notoriously anti-education. I think we're going to see a larger number of people who just don't care this election cycle than they did the last one.

Thankfully, the Libertarian frontrunner doesn't seem like he's MAGA-lite, so I might be able to get behind them. Supposedly, Chase Oliver is the leading candidate who's described as "pro-gun, pro-police reform, pro-choice Libertarian and who is armed and gay." He also supports ranked-choice voting and immigration reform that amounts to if you're coming here to work and be peaceful, come on in.

The other two Libertarians are Art Olivier and Michael Rectenwald. Olivier is MAGA-lite, hates "wokeness," supports a border wall (seriously, how does any Libertarian support something that will be built via eminent domain?), and is a 9/11 truther, so he's going to be a hard no from me. Rectenwald also seems MAGA-lite too since his primary stance is anti-woke, being redpilled, and that there's a "great reset" happening, so I have to assume he's an idiot.

Worse cast Afroman is running for president and I when he loses, I hope to hell his statement "I could've been president but I got high".
 
Thankfully, the Libertarian frontrunner doesn't seem like he's MAGA-lite, so I might be able to get behind them. Supposedly, Chase Oliver is the leading candidate who's described as "pro-gun, pro-police reform, pro-choice Libertarian and who is armed and gay." He also supports ranked-choice voting and immigration reform that amounts to if you're coming here to work and be peaceful, come on in.
Chase Oliver seems like a decent dude. Bonus points: Republicans blamed him for forcing the Senate election runoff in Georgia that Raphael Warnock took over Herschel Walker.
 

This certainly hit home. I went to vote this morning and felt the same way. The choices are staggeringly bad, in my opinion, but I still found it necessary to vote because we had the school millage and the rednecks around here a notoriously anti-education. I think we're going to see a larger number of people who just don't care this election cycle than they did the last one.

Thankfully, the Libertarian frontrunner doesn't seem like he's MAGA-lite, so I might be able to get behind them. Supposedly, Chase Oliver is the leading candidate who's described as "pro-gun, pro-police reform, pro-choice Libertarian and who is armed and gay." He also supports ranked-choice voting and immigration reform that amounts to if you're coming here to work and be peaceful, come on in.

The other two Libertarians are Art Olivier and Michael Rectenwald. Olivier is MAGA-lite, hates "wokeness," supports a border wall (seriously, how does any Libertarian support something that will be built via eminent domain?), and is a 9/11 truther, so he's going to be a hard no from me. Rectenwald also seems MAGA-lite too since his primary stance is anti-woke, being redpilled, and that there's a "great reset" happening, so I have to assume he's an idiot.

Worse cast Afroman is running for president and I when he loses, I hope to hell his statement "I could've been president but I got high".
I'll give you your one feel-good vote in the primary but if you write in some nobody for the general election then you're a scoundrel. You know what to do.
 
I'll give you your one feel-good vote in the primary but if you write in some nobody for the general election then you're a scoundrel. You know what to do.
Why? I don't want to vote for either Trump or Biden and I'm not going to waste my vote doing so. I'm against old with mental illness and that negates both Trump and Biden.

I honestly don't know why Nikki Haley hasn't gotten more traction. I don't exactly like everything about her, but I'd take her over the alternatives. But independent voters don't vote in primaries because the entire primary system is awful. You basically let the people who are hugely engrossed in political BS their party spouts pick who the average independent voter is going to vote for. These groups keep picking some of the absolute worst candidates.
 
Why? I don't want to vote for either Trump or Biden and I'm not going to waste my vote doing so. I'm against old with mental illness and that negates both Trump and Biden.

I honestly don't know why Nikki Haley hasn't gotten more traction. I don't exactly like everything about her, but I'd take her over the alternatives. But independent voters don't vote in primaries because the entire primary system is awful. You basically let the people who are hugely engrossed in political BS their party spouts pick who the average independent voter is going to vote for. These groups keep picking some of the absolute worst candidates.
Because the Republican party has become exactly what they said they wanted to avoid: The Trump Party.
 
Quick show of hands:

Out of curiosity, how many of y’all are currently blue collar workers? And if so, what do you do?
 
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Because the Republican party has become exactly what they said they wanted to avoid: The Trump Party.
That's not a good reason for me though. Simply voting for the lesser of two evils goes against my principles. Plus, it's not like a third-party vote is going to sway the election one way or the other. My vote doesn't go towards either Biden or Trump, so it's simply one less vote for either of them in the total.
 
Nikki Haley is a worse alternative to Biden. For all the grief she gives Trump, she has still said she would support & pardon him.

It’s Biden & nobody else at this point. The Dems aren’t running anyone else and the strongest Independent is a nut job Kennedy. Not voting for Biden just allows the Republican Christians a closer victory.
 
That's not a good reason for me though. Simply voting for the lesser of two evils goes against my principles. Plus, it's not like a third-party vote is going to sway the election one way or the other. My vote doesn't go towards either Biden or Trump, so it's simply one less vote for either of them in the total.
While I understand, the lesser of two evils won't bend the US over a barrel and Stormy Daniels it.

The more Trump looses by, the better.
 
I just don't get the idea that Biden is any sort of evil. He's a genuinely decent man who is doing his best (and his best is actually quite good.) He's not perfect by any stretch of the imagination, but you're never going to get a perfect candidate. So vote for the better candidate.
 
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I just want a president who isn't at risk of dying from old age at any given second.

If someone dies and your first thought is "I'm not surprised, they were getting up there in age" they should not be in charge of the future of anything let alone an entire country.
 
Why? I don't want to vote for either Trump or Biden and I'm not going to waste my vote doing so. I'm against old with mental illness and that negates both Trump and Biden.

I honestly don't know why Nikki Haley hasn't gotten more traction. I don't exactly like everything about her, but I'd take her over the alternatives. But independent voters don't vote in primaries because the entire primary system is awful. You basically let the people who are hugely engrossed in political BS their party spouts pick who the average independent voter is going to vote for. These groups keep picking some of the absolute worst candidates.
Not voting for Biden is about as close as voting for fascism as you can get.

Quick show of hands:

Out of curiosity, how many of y’all are currently blue collar workers? And if so, what do you do?
Define it. I work 14 hour duty days more often than not so as far as I'm concerned I'm one of the most blue collar people on the forum. What about it?

I just want a president who isn't at risk of dying from old age at any given second.

If someone dies and your first thought is "I'm not surprised, they were getting up there in age" they should not be in charge of the future of anything let alone an entire country.
Fortunately for you there is a system written down of what to do if one of them dies. And it's happened before so it isn't a mystery.

The difference is that one of the candidates and his administration and allies are interested in following those rules. The other one isn't. Voting for the old guy who follows the rules isn't very risky.
 
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Not voting for Biden is about as close as voting for fascism as you can get.


Define it. I work 14 hour duty days more often than not so as far as I'm concerned I'm one of the most blue collar people on the forum. What about it?


Fortunately for you there is a system written down of what to do if one of them dies. And it's happened before so it isn't a mystery.

The difference is that one of the candidates and his administration and allies are interested in following those rules. The other one isn't. Voting for the old guy who follows the rules isn't very risky.



Ummmm…

“Blue Collar” as defined as such:


I didn’t think I needed to explain to someone in their mid-30’s what a blue collar worker is
 
Ummmm…

“Blue Collar” as defined as such:


I didn’t think I needed to explain to someone in their mid-30’s what a blue collar worker is
Long hours, fatiguing work, skilled certifications, no degree required, want to drink myself to sleep every night. Yeah, I'd say I'm blue collar. Ignore the tie, I don't like wearing it anyway.
 
Long hours, fatiguing work, skilled certifications, no degree required, want to drink myself to sleep every night. Yeah, I'd say I'm blue collar. Ignore the tie, I don't like wearing it anyway.

Cool.

Like I said. Twas’ just asking…


What do you do?
 
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