2024 US Presidential Election Thread

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On a different note, a friend of a friend just posted this on FB:
The stand on moral issues is of top importance to me. Get that right, and all the other issues will fall into place. Trump isn’t perfect, but his stand on the moral issues most closely matches mine.
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Luckily I don’t need to engage with this person, but I am left shaking my head over what kind of cognitive disconnect it takes to willingly state this.
 
Duke
On a different note, a friend of a friend just posted this on FB:

Luckily I don’t need to engage with this person, but I am left shaking my head over what kind of cognitive disconnect it takes to willingly state this.
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If your stance on moral issues is "I've got mine, I don't care about yours; what I do is right, if you do anything different it's wrong and shouldn't be allowed; and if you don't look like me, have your genitals the same shape as mine, put them anywhere but where I say I put them, or are poorer than me, screw you", I can see it.
 
Danoff
If someone doesn't think Trump's insane, they're a cultist or just completely ignorant of Trump. I don't see how you can be outside the cult and not conclude that Trump is insane. Discounting his "excesses" is part of the cult. If you know people who don't think Trump is insane, but do know who Trump is even a little bit, I have bad news for you. They're cultists. This thread, and several others, are filled to the brim with pure Trump insanity. From injecting bleach to election/assassination conspiracies to gay windmills and Hannibal Lecter eating dogs and cats. He's out of his damned mind, full stop. And we saw what happens when someone who is out of their damned mind goes into a paranoid rage fest, he sends an angry mob to the capital to execute the US government - including congress and the vice president.

If someone can come to the conclusion that it's not just an insane s-show on the right at the moment, that person is PART of the insane s-show.
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There's always an excuse.
 
www.thetimes.com

FBI arrests man for ‘plotting Isis terror attack on US election day’

Nasir Ahmad Tawhedi, a 27-year-old Afghan living in Oklahoma, had allegedly bought AK-47s and is accused of planning to open fire on voters
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An Afghan citizen living in Oklahoma has been charged with plotting to carry out an Isis-inspired terrorist attack on the day of the US election.

Nasir Ahmad Tawhedi allegedly planned to open fire on crowds to disrupt voting on November 5, according to the justice department. Merrick Garland, the US attorney-general, said that Tawhedi and an unnamed juvenile co-conspirator planned to die as martyrs.

After being arrested on Monday, Tawhedi, 27, was charged with conspiring and attempting to provide material support to Isis and receiving a firearm to be used to commit a terrorist act.

As part of the alleged plot he had recently purchased two AK-47 rifles, liquidated his family’s assets and bought one-way tickets for his wife and child to travel home to Afghanistan, the justice department said. After his arrest, he allegedly admitted to investigators that he planned to attack “large gatherings of people” on election day.

Tawhedi entered the US in 2021 on a special immigrant visa and is on parole status pending the adjudication of his immigration proceedings. He made a first appearance in a federal court in Oklahoma on Tuesday.

“This defendant, motivated by Isis, allegedly conspired to commit a violent attack, on election day, here on our homeland,” Christopher Wray, the FBI director, said. “Terrorism is still the FBI’s number one priority, and we will use every resource to protect the American people.”

The FBI said it had seized Tawhedi’s phone and found his communications with an Isis-affiliated recruiter and trainer, and found terrorist propaganda on his iCloud and Google account. The agency added that he had contributed money to an unnamed charity which funnels money to Isis, a designated foreign terrorist organisation under US federal law.
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If Islamists are plotting this imagine what the far-right could get up to.
 
NotThePrez
I don't watch/listen to Howard Stern at all, but from little I've gathered, he doesn't seem like a big sports guy, much less motorsports.
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I'll listen to the entire interview starting today at lunch but you're correct about Howard not being a sports guy. He will go to Knicks games but it's just to sit front row courtside so he can feel like a VIP. He's often said that if they tried to move him back a row or two he wouldn't go. His staff members are big sports fans though.
 
Danoff
Well it wouldn't be them. It would be the states through the compact. For it to be otherwise would take more universal support than possible. So this is a very safe statement.
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Are there any red states in the compact? It sounds like they'd be working against their own interests.
 
UKMikey
Are there any red states in the compact? It sounds like they'd be working against their own interests.
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We just need the same states that elect Kamala to pass the national popular vote act. If the same people who voted Kamala vote for that, the EC is done. That is, of course, presuming she wins. If shoe loses, the EC is also done.
 
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This commentator is accusing Green Party candidate Jill Stein of destabilising the 2016 election and attempting to do the same in 2024:
whowhatwhy.org

Jill Stein, What the Hell Are You Doing? - WhoWhatWhy

Do you have any idea how much harm you are doing? Let me count the ways
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Others are accusing Stein of being a Russian asset who's been paid to do so. She insisted the only reason she was at Putin's dinner table was to talk peace.

 
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McLaren
The fact she brought up what time you have to wake up as a US-based fan shows us she's legit.
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NotThePrez
For me, it was that and the slight disappointment in her voice when she mentioned Lewis leaving Mercedes.
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I'm about 40 minutes into the interview so I haven't got to this part yet. But I agree with Howard, I don't see how this race is this close. After all the stupid **** Trump has done and said he should have been eliminated a long time ago. When you say you didn't lose an election after you clearly did, you're done. After you call a Georgia election official and demand, "go find me 11,000 votes", you're done. After you incite your rabid idiot followers into a riot at the Capitol and they invade the building and kill officers and demand to hang your Vice President because he won't overturn a legitimate election that you lost, YOU'RE DONE!!!!

Now if you want to go back to that swamp hole in Florida you live in and run for dog catcher or something, fine. But as for anything state wide and certainly anything on a federal level and most definitely the office of President.......YOU'RE DONE!!!! You've been fired, adios, hit the road jack.

But he's got these conservatives hypnotized. It's like nothing he says or does sinks into their heads. They just hear one thing, "Immigrants bad!!!!" and that's all they hear. He can get up there on the debate and tell the lie about Haitians eating dogs and cats and instead of saying, "well that's ridiculous, I'm not going to vote for somebody that makes up stuff like that. There's no telling what else he would make up". Conservatives hear, "Haitians? Immigrants bad!!!".
 
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Duke
I mean, all you need is the “grab em by the p***y” comment and the picture of him making fun of the disabled reporter to completely invalidate his morality on any kind of human level.
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Trump only cares about himself, that’s the only morality he has. The rest is just charades. His only political position is that Donald Trump should be president, because he likes to have that title.

That’s why he nearly got his own vice president lynched by a mob. That’s why he gets on so well with communist dictators. That’s why he can’t articulate any political ideas when being asked. That’s why his entire campaign is based on lies.
 
Jezza819
I'm about 40 minutes into the interview so I haven't got to this part yet. But I agree with Howard, I don't see how this race is this close. After all the stupid **** Trump has done and said he should have been eliminated a long time ago. When you say you didn't lose an election after you clearly did, you're done. After you call a Georgia election official and demand, "go find me 11,000 votes", you're done. After you incite you're rabid idiot followers into a riot at the Capitol and they invade the building and kill officers and demand to hang your Vice President because he won't overturn a legitimate election that you lost, YOU'RE DONE!!!!

Now if you want to go back to that swamp hole in Florida you live in and run for dog catcher or something, fine. But as for anything state wide and certainly anything on a federal level and most definitely the office of President.......YOU'RE DONE!!!! You've been fired, adios, hit the road jack.

But he's got these conservatives hypnotized. It's like nothing he says or does sinks into their heads. They just hear one thing, "Immigrants bad!!!!" and that's all they hear. He can get up there on the debate and tell the lie about Haitians eating dogs and cats and instead of saying, "well that's ridiculous, I'm not going to vote for somebody that makes up stuff like that. There's no telling what else he would make up". Conservatives hear, "Haitians? Immigrants bad!!!".
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Because one of our political parties has been overrun by a cult. Once the leader finally disappears, things might return to a more normal routine where people who say these things running for any office are immediately ostracized by the public.
 
I'd say most people who cost their client $80+ million in a court case would be considered a failure at their job, but I suspect the only reason she's still around is b/c no halfway decent attorney wants anything to do with Trump.
 

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