24 Hours of Dubai 2012

[Morgoth_666]

#100 appears to have parked on track again.

EDIT: now appears to be moving again.

 

[GTlondoner]

The car seemed to have had an incident with the GC10 so who knows what damage that did to it.

 

[JTSnooks]

See the first part of your sentence. Any car in a 24 hour race can be subject to unpredictable technical issues in any given part of the car, and there's almost nothing you can do to prevent or prepare for most of those issues. It's kind of like losing your hearing because you were right next to a lightning strike.

Oh, I understand that, and if these are the only two issues for the rest of the race then they'll finish extremely well. That said, having two catastrophic failures within the first few hours doesn't bode well, not to mention the fact that their best lap is about 3 seconds off the pace of the leaders in their class, which indicates that they don't have a very strong car.

All of this adds up to a lack of testing and development compared to the others in their class, but here's hoping they pull it out.

 

[Morgoth_666]

They must have been listening to complaints. They just added class and place in class to the live timing board.

If you are running the timing program instead of the HTML, they added it to that too. I had to restart mine.

 

[Sier_Pinski]

Looks like the BMW Z4 GT3 who was previously leading the race overall has somehow jumped down to 4th place, so now Mercedes has a 1-2-3 lead overall.

 

[Morgoth_666]

Looks like the BMW Z4 GT3 who was previously leading the race overall has somehow jumped down to 4th place, so now Mercedes has a 1-2-3 lead overall.

Claudia pitted. Al Faisal is in now.

 

[JTSnooks]

Watching the speeds on the GPS tracker, the 101 Viper hit 245kph on the back straight while the Nissan barely cracked 220. Granted they only take the readings about every second or so, but that's still a huge gap.

Holy crap, the Viper's best lap is a 2'07, 5 seconds faster than the 370Z. Bit of an imbalance there.

 

[Toyinster]

The lap times are quite consistant though and within a couple of seconds - I don't think you can place too much emphasis on the fastest lap times.

Anyone know how reliable the Viper is?

 

[Sier_Pinski]

http://live.24hseries.com/live-cam has officially reactivated its live broadcast!

 

[Toyinster]

The Viper is on 170 laps, the 370Z on 147 laps - 23 lap difference @ cc 2:20 a lap that's 53.7 minutes further up the road.

 

[GTlondoner]

The Viper is on 170 laps, the 370Z on 147 laps - 23 lap difference @ cc 2:20 a lap that's 53.7 minutes further up the road.

Dont forget the 370z spent 20 minutes in the pits for the brake problem, About 15-20 minutes getting back to pits and getting ready to go back out for the second problem, Thats about 18 laps they could have done so wouldn't have been that far behind

 

[Morgoth_666]

Claudia pitted. Al Faisal is in now.

And Zuber was gaining fast enough that the Mercedes did take the lead away after the stops.

 

[JTSnooks]

Listening to the broadcast, what is a "Joker lap"?

 

[GTlondoner]

Listening to the broadcast, what is a "Joker lap"?

In rally cross the joker lap is when you take an extra corner during the race making that lap longer and its mandatory to do it once in the race,

In a 24hour race Im not sure that would be the same

 

[JTSnooks]

In rally cross the joker lap is when you take an extra corner during the race making that lap longer and its mandatory to do it once in the race,

In a 24hour race Im not sure that would be the same

Ahhhh, I remember that. It sounds more like the opposite with how they were talking about it. Sounds like it's a shortcut lap in this case.


Did anyone else just lose the video feed?

*edit* Nevermind, just got it back but it's the fixed camera again

*edit2* Ok, got it all back, had to go to the youtube link instead of the one on the Dubai website.

 

[GTlondoner]

Yeah i was wondering where they could do an extra longer lap on the map it don't have a obvious place to do it,
But loads of places to do a shorter lap.

 

[Morgoth_666]

Joker laps: you are allowed to run faster than your "allowed lap time" 10 times during the race.

One of the oddities of this race.


There may be a little more to it, but that's what I've managed to work out so far.

 

[JTSnooks]

Yeah i was wondering where they could do an extra longer lap on the map it don't have a obvious place to do it,
But loads of places to do a shorter lap.

Yeah, they were saying someone did a 2'04 on their Joker lap and they were worried because they had already used a lot of them, so I'd say it's a shortcut.

 

[Sier_Pinski]

#2 Ferrari just got spun out by the #101 Viper at the end of the main strait. I think I heard that the #2 took some damage. The #100 just barely dodged it on the outside of the track

 

[Mr. S]

#2 Ferrari just got spun out by the #101 Viper at the end of the main strait. I think I heard that the #2 took some damage. The #100 just barely dodged it on the outside of the track

Suspension broke down on the #2 Ferrari.

 

[GTlondoner]

Joker laps: you are allowed to run faster than your "allowed lap time" 10 times during the race.

One of the oddities of this race.


There may be a little more to it, but that's what I've managed to work out so far.

Wow thats a confusing way to race, so you can only do a proper racing lap 10 times in 24hours, Might as well just take a drive to the shops then.

 

[Morgoth_666]

Wow thats a confusing way to race, so you can only do a proper racing lap 10 times in 24hours, Might as well just take a drive to the shops then.

Not exactly my favorite rule in the world of racing . I imagine it's there to encourage more amateur/gentleman participation.

 

[JTSnooks]

Joker laps: you are allowed to run faster than your "allowed lap time" 10 times during the race.

One of the oddities of this race.


There may be a little more to it, but that's what I've managed to work out so far.

Now we just need to figure out how they determine your "allowed" lap time.

 

[Rods_Ramone]

Guys, is it my connection or in the youtube there a horrible lag issue going on over the streaming? I gave up watching, now I am only hearing radioleman...

 

[Morgoth_666]

Now we just need to figure out how they determine your "allowed" lap time.

The Ferrari driver said they couldn't go faster than 2:05 but I think it's different for different classes, if not cars.

Ok, apparently each team declares what time they think they can run(and are then balanced appropriately with rules - fuel, ballast) before the race. Goofy.



EDIT: Astonishingly, the #2 Ferrari is back out already.

 

[GTlondoner]

Guys, is it my connection or in the youtube there a horrible lag issue going on over the streaming? I gave up watching, now I am only hearing radioleman...

Im watching this link http://live.24hseries.com/Live-cam
couldn't get the youtube link to even work

 

[Tired Tyres]

No problem with this feed for me

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZCoc_4zc2E

 

[JJ72]

basically it makes the strategy more transparent and eliminate some car difference, it's more about smooth operation rather than stretching the car to its limits, and I think that's why you have so many cars from different discipline on the track. a lot of the cars cannot be homologated under traditional GT rules. It surely spice up the field, in fact many of the cars are really affordable when you have a 4 men team.

I am really tempted to give it a go next year....it's quite an amazing experience and there's a lighthearted gentlemen gathering sort of aura.

 

[Rods_Ramone]

Im watching this link http://live.24hseries.com/Live-cam
couldn't get the youtube link to even work

Thank you, I tried early too but now seems okay now...
thank you Tired Tyres, but the link was lag full...

 

[JTSnooks]

That doesn't make any sense. So you can just get a really fast car and say "we can run really quick", and run away with the race? It doesn't seem like there's a lot of balance within some of the classes looking at the lap time differences.