RACE # 2 - By looking at the map , I am going to say , NO PASSING UNTIL AFTER TURN 2. LOOK GOOD ? SOUND GOOD ? , ANY RESPONSES ?
Mate, you're taking this too far I think, I really don't agree with these rules, they are starting to get out of hand. I personally think you are crossing the line between strict races and fun races.
I realise there was a screw up last time and you were one of unlucky ones, but these things happen, there will always be turn 1 incidents no matter how many rules you lay down and the quicker you accept this the less this will stress you out.
Having said that, I don't think it helped having 11 extra AI on the grid, blocking people's view and also providing the risk of people attempting to drive through the AI and not seeing what is in front of the AI.
I've thought about this and I'm going to say I won't agree with any rules prohibiting racing from the start grid, although there are problems with certain people wrecking the races sometimes, I am sure these people will be identified and I will ban them. But ultimately, it's up to each driver to keep themselves out of trouble at the start, and I don't mean just the drivers at the back, the front row drivers also need to make sure they don't drive too slowly that they cause a pile-up.
I don't see why prohibitng overtaking at the start will solve the problems, if nothing I think they will make them worse, with people going out of their way to slow down and not accidentally overtake others, potentially causing accidental brake-tests, etc.
Looking at your first test of this rule, it clearly isn't an adequate solution and I don't think you should keep using it and/or making it more strict.
look guys i thought this was supposed to be fun but from some of the msg's iv'e seen and received last night and today i think some of us are taking this a little too seriously IT'S JUST A GAME i had a good time last night yes i got mad and said a few cuss words 1st when i miss judged my closing speed and ran into someone about lap 3 or 4 dont know who it was but i didn't mean to hit them it happens its online racing crazy things happen 2nd time i threw out some cuss words im cruzing along 2 or 3 cars crashed in front of me i had nowhere to go but into a mess I KNOW WHO CAUSED CRASH IN TURN 1 because i had a good view i saw all of it all i want to do is have fun but if anyone dont want me in this let me know ill quit IT'S JUST A GAME
Agreed, this is for fun, all drivers should remember that when getting punted, I will ban drivers who start uneccesary arguments just as much as I will ban those who are found to be regular punters/accident-causers.
I'm afraid I can't make the next race as i'll be in Amsterdam (maybe I could meet up at Appie's place
) until the 5th. Unless you fancy bringing it forward a week, I could do it then I think.
28th is fine by me.
Actually, wouldn't mind having the 4th off from the racing as I have an important first day back at college. Though it doesn't bother me a huge amount, if it's okay with the other PAL racers, the 28th for Sepang would be good. With the 4th being a "mid-season break"
Hmm, well the problem with the 28th is that I won't be anywhere near a computer, so I won't be able to send the PMs or sort out any more problems that arise. One of the other organisors would have to step up and do my job for a day.
We should practice the start of the race for every track before the race. I mean, all the drivers without AIs. We should set up a "mandatory" practice session to heavily work on the start. No pass until T2 doesn't fully solve the problem, the mess will happen on T3 or T4, anywhere after the green flag.
We should practice several times, each driver starting from a different position on the grid. Then we can chat about everyone’s experience. What most drivers don’t know is that, to avoid accidents at the start of the race, each position requires a different braking point on the first corner. This practice session will help each driver to determine the braking point for each position, and hopefully, avoid crashes. Subsequently, we will understand how to brake while tailgating other drivers during the rest of the track.
Thoughts.-
Now this is a better idea, practicing your starts might work, though unfortunately, I'm guessing some people might not be able to turn up and will still be caught out by this and unfairly penalised.
For this to work you'd have to sort out some practice sessions where everyone can turn up, and some much better communication would be required between drivers (I don't mean how we are talking to each other, I mean some of the drivers don't even post in this thread much...this is not good if arguments need to be settled).
What I would like to see is more of the NTSC drivers coming into this thread and talking about the races, discussing the rules, asking questions, etc. The major problem is that too many drivers are annonymous and it tends to come off badly when they cause accidents because we have no idea about the person, its easy for people to assume they did it on purpose.
Also, it seems some people aren't keeping up to date with this thread and have no idea about the concept rules sometimes being tried out, at the very least I would like people just to check this thread more often, so they aren't kept out of the loop so much.