450PP Historic European Super Lap: Matterhorn Rotenboden

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Ferrari Dino 246 GT '71 (450PP SH-SS)

Just add CS tyres and this tune is a guaranteed gold tune.

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1:44.366. Current goal is to hit a 1:43 so I'll try to make that happen, or at least get close to that mark this weekend. :D Here's my setup so far. I had difficulties creating a good transmission for this track and the Dino but this one will have 0
Thanks, got down half a second with this to 1:54.310 and theres still more in it. Good enough for a hack
 
To me that thing L-shooter does is chicken, he doesn't do a lap in the last second he does it a night before and when he gets infront he stays sign out till there's 2 minutes left then signs in so no 1 can get the chance to beat it

Ahhhh, I think I understand what he's actually doing now. That makes a lot more sense (of how he was able to drop in like that with literally just 2 or 3 minutes to spare before the deadline, every time like that).

I mean, I understood the strategic purpose (tough for the other top few guys to know just how fast they have to go if they only see his new top time just a couple mins before the event ends), but what didn't occur to me was that he could just do it many hours or even a day or more in advance, and then just click the pause button when he sees he's ahead of the #1 ghost and then just leave it sitting there and only complete the last few meters of the lap right before the registration period ends or something like that. Like, I thought he was literally just coming in and was so good that he would just practice in Free Run mode a bunch beforehand before putting in his first official run and then would just put in a great lap right before the buzzer or something. But yea this makes more sense cuz I couldn't imagine how even the best guys in the world would be able to so consistently drop a #1 time on a single lap attempt at the last second like that, so, this kind of explains things to me.

Smart tactic, but I agree it does feel maybe a little bit naughty/cheapo-style kinda.

Although, then again, it's not like the other top guys can't just ASSUME he's gonna try to do that, and thus, if they are worried he might beat them last-second-swoop-in style like that, I mean, if let's say the #1 guy puts down his #1 time with a few days to go or a week to go or whatever, instead of just leaving that #1 time by a small margin sitting there with the attitude of "well, I'll just leave that as is, unless someone re-beats it, in which case I'll try to re-beat their re-beat), instead they could just be like "Damn, that's a fast time BUUUUT that L-Shooter guy is probably gonna try to do that swoop-in thing later on, so, I will try to beat my OWN #1 time and lower it even further and further by as much as I can, so that way maybe even if L-Shooter tries to do that thing, my time will just be too fast and he simply won't even be able to beat it, last-second style or not."

That said, I'm not one of the top guys, so I realize it's not really for me to say, and I can understand how frustrating it probably would be for dudes who are actually at the top end of the top 10 type of level who put in that amount of time and skill and everything.

And, it would be cool to see L-Shooter and Immortal go up against each other beat re-beat re-beat re-beat re-beat style back and forth for the #1 spot in the final few days or week of an event and see how low they could push each other, rather than just this last second swoop-in type of thing I guess, so, I suppose you have a point in that regard as well.

Anyway, thanks for explaining it to me, up till now I assumed he was just literally coming in and doing a single lap right before the end or something, which would've been like superhumanly skilled to be able to consistently pull that off, lol. Dude is still clearly extremely talented though, to be able to even get a #1 time, even if he does it swoop-in style, so I can't hate too hard, lol.
 
improved my Stratos time about a second or so ... but didnt reach my Dino-time at all by now.
Maybe the Dino fanboys are right with there choice. :rolleyes:

I gave my two alfas a go first. On my second lap with my Giulia sprint gta I managed a 2:03. I could probably get gold if I worked at it, but I'm just not that patient haha. Might give the Stratos a try. Sounds more fun than the dino

more fun to me. may not for everybody :D
I'm testing settups. but every improvement i try to do makes it feel a bit worse.
nothing but soft. anything else and you start sliding and loosing time.
 
Regarding the "thing" L-shooter does , I for one must admit that it`s been a while since I heard anything more "stupid" hehe Can anybody please tell me the idea behind doing a thing like that , because I really cant see why he would do that , as long you dont win anything by doing it , iff there where moneyprizes at stake , then I could understand why .....

TRL_Doodle , thank you for posting your setup :cheers:
 
improved my Stratos time about a second or so ... but didnt reach my Dino-time at all by now.
Maybe the Dino fanboys are right with there choice. :rolleyes:



more fun to me. may not for everybody :D
I'm testing settups. but every improvement i try to do makes it feel a bit worse.
nothing but soft. anything else and you start sliding and loosing time.
I chickened out and used the dino. First clean lap and an easy gold. I feel so cheap now:rolleyes:
 
Using @Doodle 's tune I did an opening lap of 1:53, quite garbage so one more lap and I did a 1:48.826 knocking off 5s and being put in 211th Place. Still room for improvement but boy what a tune! Thank you Doodle
 
getting closer with the Stratos. only 5tenth away from my best lap
3 o'clock in the morning ... tomorrow i give it a new try :rolleyes:
 
First and foremost thank you @shaunm80! Thank you for the awesome tune for the Dino. I went and bought a brand new one so that the specs would match exactly. You did not do an oil change. The only thing I changed was the final gear to 3.650. Thank you @shaunm80 for your ghost line as well. I only ran maybe 5 laps because the 1st 3 I could not keep the car on the track. I had to use TCS 3 to keep from losing the rear. I have been running with TCS1 and ABS 1 to improve my skill but with a DS3 I just couldn't get a handle on the rear end.
 

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Btw, in these setups when they don't mention dong the "Improve Body Rigidity", does that mean that it is just universally understood that you are always supposed to do that, so people don't even bother to include that in their tunes when they type it out, or, is it like, in some setups you are supposed to do it, and in other ones you aren't, so if they don't mention it, it's because that isn't part of the tune and would actually make the car worse if you did it?

(sorry if this is kind of a n00bish question, but after my debacle with forgetting to do it on the 2J, I want to know for future reference about this whole Body Rigidity thing once and for all, lol)
 
Currently 1:47.6, pos #101. Doodles tune got me to the low 1:48's but I often found the over steer (when the car doesn't stop turning) a problem. Tried one or two things, height, springs, but they were really just stabs in the dark.
Had a crack with Shaunm80's tune and I felt the over steer was not as severe, however the power was well down so used his tune with Doodles power settings and managed to take off some more tenths and get into the 1:47's.

Wow, slowing down and powering out of the bottom of the big hill is a challenge.
 
The biggest challenge to this course is dealing with the undulations along with the twisty road. You got to keep the car planted on the road because it can be too easy to fly off the road and have your time go foul. I had runs around this course where I'd go over a crest and end up seeing my car veer off the road and onto the grass. You got to be real careful here.

The Ferrari 246 Dino is really a great car. It's one of my personal favorite cars, and also one of my personal favorite Ferraris. The car handles like a dream. Notoriously, however, this was the first car I rolled over in Gran Turismo 6. My Dino 246 hasn't forgotten. Anyhow, it is very agile and nicely gets up to speed. So it's understandable many people chose this car for this Seasonal.
 
Returned to Doodles tune and took off over 1/2 a second and snuck into the 1:46's, albeit by the skin of my teeth.

Now on 1:46.999 for pos #96.

Oh, and I found when I checked Doodles tune on my car that I had forgotten to add Racing Brakes. Ha ha.

And was chasing Doodles ghost rather than my own.

1:46.757 for pos #70.

Oh, forgot to mention I changed the power setting a tad. Dropped one of the options, can't remember which one now and added %. Couldn't say it made much difference but I'll check it out tomorrow. One of my boys is interstate representing the NT in sport and the other is sleeping at a school friends place overnight and I'm on the turps, so can't check now.
 
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what about the tuned startos pd gave us last winter , where we only had few corners as a tt ... i can't remember how many pp it had , but i remember it's been a good car
 
ok i think i give up the "Stratos" thing ...
all my diving and practicing with the Stratos improved my understanding of the cours so i took the Dino again and improved my time by 2 seconds to a 1.54.2 :D

unfortunatly i was offline at the moment and the time (as the game said) couldnt be registered ... what a pitty. :banghead:
but i stored the replay !

now i have to do it again :rolleyes:
 
did it again ... 1.52.0 Rank# 2009 :D :gtpflag:

and i know theres even more in it. in first sector i was behind my own ghost for 1 or 2tenth. In the end i made it on the long downhill braking zone towards this little left handed hairpin. i found half a second there and didnt lost it on the rest of the track :lol:
 
To me that thing L-shooter does is chicken, he doesn't do a lap in the last second he does it a night before and when he gets infront he stays sign out till there's 2 minutes left then signs in so no 1 can get the chance to beat it

I tried what you suggest L-shooter has been doing and it won't even allow me into the TT without logging in so how could he do it? Am I missing something?
 
I tried what you suggest L-shooter has been doing and it won't even allow me into the TT without logging in so how could he do it? Am I missing something?
You log in start the time trial, then sign off and keep doing the time trial till you do your lap, then when you beat it pause game for how long you want to and sign in
 
Why Alpine A112 1600 '73 not eligible? The other two '72 same model can enter. :ouch:

I bought both 250's Ferraris for together ... i don't know, 25 million credits or so, just to recognize that they are not permitted here ... :rolleyes:

Beautyfull cars anyway, maybe i can use them lateron
 
This time trial is awful, i don't like the car so after 15 minutes i gave up :lol:
It's another one of those events where it's nigh on impossible to do 2 consistent laps - if you get a lucky bump at the first corner, you get through the second OK, if not you go straight into the wall. Similarly with the downhill section, over the jump - sometimes you land OK, and can get stopped for the corner at the bottom, but most of the time you get thrown off the track! I got down to a 1.50.xx very quickly (using Doodle's tune), but cannot get below that at all.

Like you, I have now given up......
 
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