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- diabolicwyvern
What the starting PP for the Zonda that folks detune to make the 450s?
450pp Street Car Tuners Club -- Nightly 9:45-12:00 EDT
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- aokiji85
i have used 3 cars yesterday, a strange toyota (aristo maybe) on london, accord on madrid and monaco, and that piece of junk called holden commodore on rome. that toyota was surprisingly good, some oversteer but not too much, the accord is a good car, sounds like a beast but in monaco the understeer was terrible and my tires last no more than four laps. on madrid i was very careful with the tires, always tryin to not spin out, it was really a realistic race from that side, like the moder f1, you have to look after your tires if you want to win a race. i think that we should stay with 8 - 10 laps races btw. commodore is really one of the worst car ever! its so slow and terrible in every possible way that i cant understand why the top gear guys was so excited about it, maybe the game doesent do justice to the car
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Detuning most cars doesnt help. I detuned my Supra for Tsukuba for 90s JDM night and it had no straight line speed. But my RUF BTR can be quick at Rome and that has a lot of power reduction....so i guess it depends on the car.
AOK, your commodor was quick enough to overtake me at the end of Rome. I thought you had me until you started to get sloppy a few turns before the end. I didnt have much tire left to challenge otherwise.
I never have trouble with tires except maybe on muscle car night. Last night was the first time i chose a car that wasnt good on tires.
BTW, i also enjoy the slightly longer races. Ive been trying to make them about 15 minutes in length. We spend so much time in free run that it seems silly not to run longer races. They also give drivers an opportunity to come back from the occasional turn 1 accident...and it puts a little strategy on tire conservation.
AOK, your commodor was quick enough to overtake me at the end of Rome. I thought you had me until you started to get sloppy a few turns before the end. I didnt have much tire left to challenge otherwise.
I never have trouble with tires except maybe on muscle car night. Last night was the first time i chose a car that wasnt good on tires.
BTW, i also enjoy the slightly longer races. Ive been trying to make them about 15 minutes in length. We spend so much time in free run that it seems silly not to run longer races. They also give drivers an opportunity to come back from the occasional turn 1 accident...and it puts a little strategy on tire conservation.
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- aokiji85
yes 20 laps would be perfect for me. like chuyles said it would put some stategy in the race
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- aokiji85
i was watching the 500 abarth challange on tv, awesome race! its a pity that the abart is not in the game
i think that we should do a 500 night, it will be fun
i think that we should do a 500 night, it will be fun
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- booch16
ugh, i wish they started the qualifying as a hot lap starting at the start/finish line. I swear the designers of this game went to extreme measures to make things take longer than necessary at every point in this game. "hey, we have a horrible menu system that takes 10 minutes to do anything, so why don't we add even more frustration by making the first lap of qualifying not count? "
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- RockinVs
i always thought more than 5 minutes was too much for "qualifying".
i wanna race.
your cars should be tuned already. at most you may need slight changes, or transmission changes, which you can figure out in one lap. so then, it is up to you to decide weather to finish a qualifying lap or go tune and not qualify.
i wanna race.
your cars should be tuned already. at most you may need slight changes, or transmission changes, which you can figure out in one lap. so then, it is up to you to decide weather to finish a qualifying lap or go tune and not qualify.
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- sl3ightaru
Not qualifying makes it nearly impossible to do anything useful in the race. I think it's just a case of me taking it a lot more seriously than most if you guys. I'll still race and won't complain if we don't get as much practice time. I just get a lot of enjoyment out of tuning and running hot laps.
chuyler1
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For qualifying, i usually shoot for a 15-20 minute initial free run for tuning at the beginning of the night. After that my goal is to runa recon lap, exit to adjust the tranny, then re-enter and put down a qualifying lap. So that requires a timeframe of at least 4 laps.
I think 10-15 minute races are the sweet spot. I dont want to bore people who fall behind. We've done longer races in the past but there isnt much action late in the race unless someone makes a mistake. It depends on the theme thou. We could have run 50 laps at deep forest on hatchback night because the competition was very close.
I think 10-15 minute races are the sweet spot. I dont want to bore people who fall behind. We've done longer races in the past but there isnt much action late in the race unless someone makes a mistake. It depends on the theme thou. We could have run 50 laps at deep forest on hatchback night because the competition was very close.
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Agreed.
I usually build a baseline setup on Tsukuba beforehand and change my spring rates/dampers/ride height/ballast-power balance and gearing depending on the characteristics of whatever track we run. Takes a few laps to get it right and since it doesn't always keep your lap time after exiting, you really only get one lap to qualify.
If you think about it this way, in F1 they run a 1 hour quali session. Races usually take about an hour and a half. I'd guess our races usually take somewhere between 15 and 20 minutes depending on the track (10 for short tracks). If you take this into account a 10ish minute setup/quali session makes sense for our races.
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- aokiji85
i think that we can stay whit the 450pp, i find a lot of pre 75 that can be used. my giulia will be on track for sure
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- BOWTIEKID
Lol, people said we didn't want sport tires, now they're regretting it. XD
Also, I think Osprey is in trouble because they don't make a truck or MX-5 that fits the rules tonight.
EDIT: I'll be brave... Anyone want too compare times? I got a 47.6 in My Honda (yes a 1970 honda) at Autumn Mini. What have you all been getting?
Also, I think Osprey is in trouble because they don't make a truck or MX-5 that fits the rules tonight.
EDIT: I'll be brave... Anyone want too compare times? I got a 47.6 in My Honda (yes a 1970 honda) at Autumn Mini. What have you all been getting?
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