450pp Street Car Tuners Club -- Nightly 9:45-12:00 EDT

[chuyler1]

I suggest if drivers are going to join us nightly, they should invest in a mic. I use my cell phone blue-tooth headset. They aren't very expensive and there is an article posted somewhere on how to configure it so the driver audio goes to the headset while the game audio still goes to your speakers. That's how I have things setup...but if you use that approach, don't turn the volume up too much or we'll get cross-talk.

As for keeping quiet until after the race. I simply don't think that is going to happen. I know there are silent drivers out there that cannot defend themselves on the spot so give people the benefit of the doubt. Also remember, if you tap someone during a pass, give up your position and try again for a clean pass. Giving up your position or waiting for the off-track driver to get back on the track speaks loudly whether you have a mic or not. Chances are you'll get another chance to pass before the race is over.

Now on to that green lego car...I don't want to hear any bitching about penalties from you Grenade. I watched the replay and all of your penalties are well justified 4-wheels off the track. My suggestion...spend more time tuning the car for better handling and braking and less time on gearing.

I've got some videos uploading now of GV-E Reverse and Daytona RC. I'm not sure what caused the massive pileup in the bus stop in the first lap but from my POV lots of people completely missed the brake zone while others went off track. This all falls under learning to follow. Don't ever assume the driver in front knows when to brake. Use your own visual cues.

Overall last night looked pretty clean to me. I had a run-in with a CR-Z at Daytona but I think he was a pubber. He tried to push me off the embankment. Might have been lag...or might have been him not looking for me in his rearview after going by. In any case, he managed to pit maneuver himself. It'll be in the video. Nordschleife was boring as hell, probably because I challenged myself too much by picking a tail happy car that got real loose once the tires warmed up. I spent most of the 4 laps countersteering and ended up 15 seconds off pace every lap. If people vote to do it again...boost will be turned on.

 

[xonant]

That's basically how I race. I'm lighthearted and making jokes till I get run off the track. Then I am dead serious in my implications!!!! lol. I am more vocal then most and that's not always a good thing.

I'm quite on the mic, don't like talking, but I like listening to Grenadshark commentate about injustices it makes the races more fun.

@chuyler1: While at Nurburging or whatever that track name is, my little boy started crying with stomach issues. I had to step away to help my wife get him to sleep. When I came back I was kicked from the room, no biggie.

When i try to get back in I could not. Kept getting a message saying "you were blocked from entering the room." Even though the room was not full, 13/16 most of the evening. I was able to get in with another account using the room number, but not with my main account. Just wondering.

 

[esoxhntr]

xonant, we had to restart the nurb race. everyone got out of the track except for you (we now know why!) the only way to get you out was to boot you. i suspect this is why you were unable to get back in.

 

[chuyler1]

I'm sorry xonant. I guess once someone is booted they can't join back in. As esoxhntr stated, we had issues with the start of the race, some people didn't make it in. I told everyone to exit so we could restart. You were stuck on the starting grid so I had to boot you in order to restart the race.

Next time, try to exit to the lobby so you don't disrupt the race once it starts. No one likes seeing a car on the starting grid that doesn't move.

 

[diabolicwyvern]

I suggest if drivers are going to join us nightly, they should invest in a mic. I use my cell phone blue-tooth headset. They aren't very expensive and there is an article posted somewhere on how to configure it so the driver audio goes to the headset while the game audio still goes to your speakers. That's how I have things setup...but if you use that approach, don't turn the volume up too much or we'll get cross-talk.

I think the cheapest mic with cross talk is the Turtle Beach P11. Its the mic I use....I tried rocketfish bluetooth, but hearing the game through the TV is just better and I dotn have to be concerned with the bluetooth coming out and sliding down into my lap mid race. MSRP through Best Buy for the P11 is $60, but free for me since my new MOVE Bundle came with a $75 gift card!

Not to brag

 

[grenadeshark]

Now on to that green lego car...I don't want to hear any bitching about penalties from you Grenade. I watched the replay and all of your penalties are well justified 4-wheels off the track. My suggestion...spend more time tuning the car for better handling and braking and less time on gearing.

Slander I say!!! Slander!!! You edited those replays to make it look like I had all 4 wheels off the track!

I think sometimes people mistake my overly loud and sarcastic cries of foul play as the truth. I should work on that.

P.S. Your transmission and gearing needs work!!! 👍

Now that its post race...I would like to implicate that lego created matte green 240rs. I cant remember who drives it but he's all over the place and loose, really loose. Then he goes flying off the track at random corners for little to no reason. I just had a thought, maybe he's dropping back on purpose to make the race more exciting? Wonder why he keeps qualifying at the front of the pack when he just wants to be have through a pack.

Loose??? Random flying off the track??? That doesn't sound like me at all. You must be thinking of that other matte green 240 RS that was racing last night under my PSN name. That happens sometimes. He's a much worse driver then me and annoying to boot. I won't let him get online under my name again.

 

[GrahamTurismo]

Nordschleife was boring as hell ... ended up 15 seconds off pace every lap.

Sorry about that. 👍

I'm not sure what caused the massive pileup in the bus stop in the first lap but from my POV lots of people completely missed the brake zone while others went off track.

I'm pretty sure I had the brake zone just fine but unfortunately got rear ended by

"that laggy <insert car model>."

 

[chuyler1]

Here's the warmup race at GV-E reverse. I totally missed my brake zone on the last turn of the first lap. That would've been a nasty punt. I smartened up for the rest of the race and should've won...but that damn draft is just too powerful. Honestly though, I'm surprised the little MR2 did so well. It's got skinny tires and was oversteering like crazy. A couple of turns i ended up in a 4 wheel drift.



By the way, I am not a fan of the FT Concept. I personally would like to ban it from the room along with all other "concepts". It has a huge edge when it comes to straight line speed.

 

[sl3ight]

Are we running again tonight?

On another note, I think the the FT86 I was using is a bit too fast compared to the other cars. I'm gonna try setting up something different.

Edit : Agreed about the FT86! Won't run it anymore.

 

[grenadeshark]

Are we running again tonight?

On another note, I think the the FT86 I was using is a bit too fast compared to the other cars. I'm gonna try setting up something different.

Edit : Agreed about the FT86! Won't run it anymore.

Lego built cars are still ok though right? I drag raced the ft86 a few times and pulled on 2-3 lengths on nurburring back straight.

 

[chuyler1]

Daytona...with a few comment bubbles...



I really have no comment about the bus stop on the first lap. The two cars closest to me missed the braking zone completely. I didn't want to have any part of other people braking so i stayed toward the inside. I don't know if there was contact in the front pack or if everyone just missed the turn.

 

[chuyler1]

Lego built cars are still ok though right? I drag raced the ft86 a few times and pulled on 2-3 lengths on nurburring back straight.

If you could actually run clean laps I would say yes. Nic has that same car and I can't keep up with him when he runs it. That 240RS along with the Ford RS200 are rally-bread limited production cars. Technically they were the production equivalents of the Group-B rally cars, but they only made like 200.

 

[grenadeshark]

Daytona...with a few comment bubbles...



I really have no comment about the bus stop on the first lap. The two cars closest to me missed the braking zone completely. I didn't want to have any part of other people braking so i stayed toward the inside. I don't know if there was contact in the front pack or if everyone just missed the turn.

I want to point out that all the bubbles in that video are making fun of the lego car!!! I was under heavy influence of alcohol by that time of night and I can't be accountable for my actions. I blamed vancizzle guy for that turn jokingly (but dead serious tone) and he actually slowed down for me. Then I felt bad You also can't accuse me of dirty racing. I nearly spun myself out a couple times making sure to not hit people.

One day, I'll run 5 clean laps in a row and then you'll ban my car from racing

 

[sl3ight]

Lego built cars are still ok though right? I drag raced the ft86 a few times and pulled on 2-3 lengths on nurburring back straight.

The thing about my FT86 is that, even though it is always on edge and likes to snap oversteer, it handles much better than the 240RS. The 240RS is really only strong on the straights, at least the way you have it tuned.

 

[grenadeshark]

The thing about my FT86 is that, even though it is always on edge and likes to snap oversteer, it handles much better than the 240RS. The 240RS is really only strong on the straights, at least the way you have it tuned.

I appreciate you calling what I have done to the car "tuning". That's better then most call it

 

[chuyler1]

IYou also can't accuse me of dirty racing. I nearly spun myself out a couple times making sure to not hit people.

No accusations here. I just think you need to work on that suspension a little. The nose tends to dive into turns giving you tons of front grip but at the same time unloading the rear making you unstable to the friendly love tap. What you've got is a great qualifying car and a ****ty racing car. I noticed lots of wheel spin exiting the corner hinting that perhaps some LSD work might be in order...but everyone i see in that car has wheel spin issues.

One day, I'll run 5 clean laps in a row and then you'll ban my car from racing

Save the replay when that happens

The thing about my FT86 is that, even though it is always on edge and likes to snap oversteer, it handles much better than the 240RS. The 240RS is really only strong on the straights, at least the way you have it tuned.

The 240RS suffers from 80's skinny tires. From the first video I posted it is clear that even my '86 MR2 can hold a tighter line as your green goblin goes drifting across my nose. However being a rally bread car, it has the ideal power band that makes it super fast. When that car shows up in my UCD I'll buy it and see what kind of laps I can put down in it.

 

[esoxhntr]

will there be a theme tonight?

 

[grenadeshark]

will there be a theme tonight?

Looks like chuyler might not be online. If he isn't. I'll host a room called 450pp street. Thinking of a theme now. Any ideas?

 

[chuyler1]

Some themes I've been thinking about...

* Family night -- wagons and minivans, bring your kids for added downforce
* Hot hatch night -- 3-door or 5-door hatchbacks and wagons
* Convertible night -- rag tops only
* 4WD night -- a chance to run some dirt/snow tracks
* Seattle night -- that's right, raining every race
* Concept Night -- see which of the concepts is quickest

I think Family night is going to replace truck night this week. People got a little too aggressive with their heavy trucks last week and we need a break.

Tonight I won't be on until 10:30. Can someone volunteer to open the room around 9:00-9:15 and post the lobby number here? Pick a theme from above or just run street cars as usual.

 

[Bones Brigade]

Some themes I've been thinking about...

* Family night -- wagons and minivans, bring your kids for added downforce
* Hot hatch night -- 3-door or 5-door hatchbacks and wagons
* Convertible night -- rag tops only
* 4WD night -- a chance to run some dirt/snow tracks
* Seattle night -- that's right, raining every race* Concept Night -- see which of the concepts is quickest

I think Family night is going to replace truck night this week. People got a little too aggressive with their heavy trucks last week and we need a break.

Tonight I won't be on until 10:30. Can someone volunteer to open the room around 9:00-9:15 and post the lobby number here? Pick a theme from above or just run street cars as usual.

Hey man, it's not raining right now.


*double checks*


Well...at some point today I looked out the window and it wasn't.

 

[grenadeshark]

Some themes I've been thinking about...

* Family night -- wagons and minivans, bring your kids for added downforce
* Hot hatch night -- 3-door or 5-door hatchbacks and wagons
* Convertible night -- rag tops only
* 4WD night -- a chance to run some dirt/snow tracks
* Seattle night -- that's right, raining every race
* Concept Night -- see which of the concepts is quickest

I think Family night is going to replace truck night this week. People got a little too aggressive with their heavy trucks last week and we need a break.

Tonight I won't be on until 10:30. Can someone volunteer to open the room around 9:00-9:15 and post the lobby number here? Pick a theme from above or just run street cars as usual.

Ill open it up

 

[esoxhntr]

hmm how about pick on grenadeshark night?

i'd like to see 60/70s muscle one of these nights.

 

[chuyler1]

hmm how about pick on grenadeshark night?

i'd like to see 60/70s muscle one of these nights.

Ahh yes, I forgot about that. I've been picking vehicles for a 70's night.

 

[GrahamTurismo]

I really have no comment about the bus stop on the first lap. The two cars closest to me missed the braking zone completely.

I assume you're talking about me in the yellow RX-7 and the 1 Series BMW right between us. I didn't miss the braking zone; it may not be obvious but the brakes on that car really are good enough for such late braking. It is, however, very obvious from your POV that I got completely plowed by the 1 Series... and it sure looks to me like he didn't even touch his brakes until well after he hit me, but again that was the laggy guy so I don't know if it was because of his lag or because he's careless.

 

[esoxhntr]

to that laggy guy driving <insert car here>:

try clearing your network cache.. go into options -> network -> there's a button there to clear it.

 

[diabolicwyvern]

How about some time designated to the battle between Brandofo and myself. We went back and forth for alittle bit and none of it involved going off the track or a massive pile of smoke. Besides the massive accident occuring right in front of me...I took the bus stop, no matter how many folks were around safely, yet competitively. I had a problem with turn 1 but really, who doesnt every now and then?

PS: Does anybody else like me look at the starting grid and predict before the race starts which two/three drivers are most likely to cause the accident? I say 'the' because we all know one's coming. I like to check the grid and if a couple of guys in the back of my head are together I say a little pray for the two in front and behind the eventual wreck.

 

[frankygt-r]

put penalties on heavy, so sick of people punting me off corners because they claim to be faster. You are only faster because you drafted me and used me as a brake

I did think it was hilarious on Rome reverse when someone spun in the chicane and i shrieked like a girl, expecting to get blocked/penalized, but i drove right through haha

Also what happened to policing ourselves? When i put someone out on a corner that i knew was dirty or careless, i will pull over and resume racing at the back of the pack or at least behind the person i just screwed up. The top 3 guys seemed to be punting people all over the course and then continuing on their race like they didn't do anything (looking at you AOKIJI)

listen, i have hit you at cape ring, but your lotus esprit was really slow into the middle of the corner, and i said that its not your foult, that car its bad!. but the slipstream in this game its really huge and it was impossible for me to breack. but after the race i said "im sorry booch". for shure im aggressive but im not a dirty driver at all! i have to say that im disappointed by the behavior of some of the players that claims to be hitted by me when i overtake them whitout any bad move at all. now, its really great to play with you and all of the 450pp racers in the room are really nice guy, so why do you want to accuse me to be a dirty drivers when i made a mistake just one time and i apologies for that?

 

[diabolicwyvern]

so why do you want to accuse me to be a dirty drivers when i made a mistake just one time and i apologies for that?

If you learn anything in life, make sure one of them is that apologies aren't the end all be all...a lesson I've learned from my wife.

EDIT: A lesson I'm still learning from my wife

 

[chuyler1]

I assume you're talking about me in the yellow RX-7 and the 1 Series BMW right between us. I didn't miss the braking zone; it may not be obvious but the brakes on that car really are good enough for such late braking. It is, however, very obvious from your POV that I got completely plowed by the 1 Series... and it sure looks to me like he didn't even touch his brakes until well after he hit me, but again that was the laggy guy so I don't know if it was because of his lag or because he's careless.

You are absolutely right. Now that you point it out, it is clear that the white bimmer never hit the brakes and he punted you. That was a pubber I think. Some people got into that race that weren't on my friend list. However, that whole chain of cars braked awefully late for the first lap through a tricky section. There is plenty of time to draft and make passes after the bus stop so that's why I went much slower.

I know GTP OLR says lead driver has the right of way and can brake as early/late as they please...but a word from the wise...lift off the gas and brake lightly early and increase pressure slowly when someone is behind you, or adjust your line so they won't run into you when they finally do brake. Punting is never the fault of the lead driver, but the the lead driver can adjust their driving style to prevent it from happening. The same tip goes for the follower too. When approaching a hard brake zone, never follow someone directly unless you know exactly when they will be braking...and if you must follow, be prepared to brake at a moments notice...ie lift off early and wait for the brake lights. It can be expected that each car in a line of cars will have to brake earlier than the car in front of it. it's just like rush hour traffic. Be prepared for it and you won't be calling your insurance company on the side of I95.

 

[grenadeshark]

hmm how about pick on grenadeshark night?

I thought that was a given for each and every night?