5 reasons GT6 is a PS4 game

[thelvynau]

PS1=GT1/GT2

PS2=GT3/GT4

PS3=GT5/GT6

Simples!!!

I have lost count on the amount of people using this line.

As stated in alot of threads you cant use that as a guide things change.

 

[TheDabbinDave]

I have lost count on the amount of people using this line.

As stated in alot of threads you cant use that as a guide things change.

Since when do you (or anyone else here) work for Polyphony Digital and or SONY as their mouthpiece? Yeah, it's ALL speculative, so let's not ride too high on that horse. We know NOTHING except GT6 is in development, PERIOD.

 

[thelvynau]

Since when do you (or anyone else here) work for Polyphony Digital and or SONY as their mouthpiece? Yeah, it's ALL speculative, so let's not ride too high on that horse. We know NOTHING except GT6 is in development, PERIOD.

And in your statement you prove my point.

I was not stating that isnt the way it will be only that you cant use that pattern as gospel.

Your statement regarding me working for pd or sony as a mouth piece is rather odd given what you said at the end.

 

[Superstylin]

I have lost count on the amount of people using this line.

As stated in alot of threads you cant use that as a guide things change.

It's called a pattern. And I can and will use it as a guide.

 

[RacerPaul]

PD should pull their finger out and get a GT out every 2 years

Its a driving game on a console, not rocket science

I say that as a fan of the series, not a knocker

 

[daus26]

To do a GT every 2 years, they'll need external help, like Forza.

 

[Tornado]

I have lost count on the amount of people using this line.

As stated in alot of threads you cant use that as a guide things change.

I've lost count of the amount of times people have said that using that as a guide was wrong and then gave no better reason for why they can't other than "things change."

Your statement regarding me working for pd or sony as a mouth piece is rather odd given what you said at the end.

Not really, no.

 

[paskowitz]

I've lost count of the amount of times people have said that using that as a guide was wrong and then gave no better reason for why they can't other than "things change."

Developing games now is DRASTICALLY different from the PS to PS2 era. The difference between developing games for the PS3 in comparison to the PS2 is far greater than the PS2 compares to the PS. There is your specific reason.

 

[Spagetti69]

Developing games now is DRASTICALLY different from the PS to PS2 era. The difference between developing games for the PS3 in comparison to the PS2 is far greater than the PS2 compares to the PS. There is your specific reason.

I would agree with that statement.
So the way they develop them should be drastically different too then ? Maybe more staff perhaps?

Only a thought.

 

[Tornado]

Developing games now is DRASTICALLY different from the PS to PS2 era. The difference between developing games for the PS3 in comparison to the PS2 is far greater than the PS2 compares to the PS.

Which is probably why PD is a considerably larger team with considerably larger budgets to work with.

There is your specific reason.

I never said that there are no reasons why a 2 game cycle might not be the case for GT5/GT6. What I actually said was that "things change" is not a reason in and of itself; and I'll also add that any attempt to definitively claim that PD's usual release pattern is no long relevant because of changing industry standards or whatever is fallacious.

 

[thelvynau]

I gave a reason why the pattern might not be trusted.

Ok ill add to it

There are more factors at work than simply keeping a schedule of two games per system.

Now im not saying this as fact just speculation. the fact gt5 was delayed could contribute to breaking this cycle or perhaps Sony turns around and asks pd to make gt a opening title.

Simply saying it will be on ps3 because of a pattern for that reason alone makes the statement hard to take seriously.

 

[Mulan]

Reason that pattern isnt correct is called DLC. Now days there are more ways to earn money. And that without involving pressing blu-rays and selling to stores.
And games can be released earlier than before, getting patched along the way. Normal businessmodel nowdays with the internet.
With the base they have on GT5players they can earn more money with new DLC than releasing GT6 on same platform.

 

[Tornado]

Reason that pattern isnt correct is called DLC. Now days there are more ways to earn money. And that without involving pressing blu-rays and selling to stores.

You know, there has been DLC on consoles since the original XBox, and games still get sequels.

With the base they have on GT5players they can earn more money with new DLC than releasing GT6 on same platform.

A new GT game would be a multi-million seller without breaking a sweat. There is no DLC PD could release for GT5, especially not this far after it was released, that would come near those numbers when the best selling "only" broke a million after a big hype train to its release. So, no.



And you can stop throwing around your suppositions as if they were facts any time now.

 

[Mulan]

You know, there has been DLC on consoles since the original XBox, and games still get sequels.


A new GT game would be a multi-million seller without breaking a sweat. There is no DLC PD could release for GT5, especially not this far after it was released, that would come near those numbers. So, no.



And you can stop throwing around your suppositions as if they were facts any time now.

Making up????? Im making calculated guesses as all do...but perhaps your math is better, though your closing comment is low and lacks confidence.
Why wouldnt new tracks and cars sell for GT5? If they are used later on in GT6 its all payed development. Its all about money. A dlc in this case cost alot less than developing GT6 and waiting for its release just so to hold some type of tradition that each platform gets 2 games? Makes no sense to me.

 

[Tornado]

though your closing comment is low and lacks confidence.

My closing comment does nothing more than point out that most of the posts you've made in this thread, including the OP, has been you attempting to definitively state that GT6 is going to be a PS4 game. Every time someone points out the flaw(s) in your reasoning, you just change to another one rather than defend it. That was also specifically referring to what happened several pages ago when you basically completely made up what you thought the intentionally vague "human drama" soundbite from Kaz meant and said that was proof that GT6 would be a PS4 game.

Why wouldnt new tracks and cars sell for GT5?

Didn't say they wouldn't. What I said was that your assertion that they would make more money than a dedicated release was nonsense, because you have no way of proving it and the quantity of sales suggest the opposite.

If they are used later on in GT6 its all payed development. Its all about money.

Yep.

A dlc in this case cost alot less than developing GT6 and waiting for its release just so to hold some type of tradition that each platform gets 2 games? Makes no sense to me.

You know what makes no sense to me? Acting as if releasing DLC for a game precludes the release of a standalone sequel (unless you had some other reason for bringing up DLC in relation to GT6). Or acting as if the "2 game pattern" is the only reason people think GT6 will/should be a PS3 title.

 

[RacerPaul]

To do a GT every 2 years, they'll need external help, like Forza

If that's what it takes then yes, do so

 

[HKS racer]

Problem with DLC is the stuff released so far is it doesn't hype the customer a lot. Spa was brilliant and most of us have it, but that's about it. The Aventador is ok but at the end of the day that DLC was still not cool enough for a relevant number of potential customers.

What if PD give us a proper Super GT expansion with 10 new GT300's and 10 new GT500's, new championship 10 races where you can decide AI skills and race lenght. Also an AI where they don't park the car when you are apporaching them.

The main reason why DLC are not selling huge numbers is they don't hype people enough.

 

[TheDabbinDave]

Problem with DLC is the stuff released so far is it doesn't hype the customer a lot. Spa was brilliant and most of us have it, but that's about it. The Aventador is ok but at the end of the day that DLC was still not cool enough for a relevant number of potential customers.

What if PD give us a proper Super GT expansion with 10 new GT300's and 10 new GT500's, new championship 10 races where you can decide AI skills and race lenght. Also an AI where they don't park the car when you are apporaching them.

The main reason why DLC are not selling huge numbers is they don't hype people enough.

They needed to commit to a monthly DLC pack with interesting cars (that should've been on the disc) and a track, along with an updated event to A & B Spec.

 

[Alex p.]

PD should pull their finger out and get a GT out every 2 years

Its a driving game on a console, not rocket science

I say that as a fan of the series, not a knocker

Wrong. Kaz himself stated GT5 as a project was as complicated as the moon-landing itself! /Sarcasme

 

[C_Raccoon23]

Problem with DLC is the stuff released so far is it doesn't hype the customer a lot. Spa was brilliant and most of us have it, but that's about it. The Aventador is ok but at the end of the day that DLC was still not cool enough for a relevant number of potential customers.

What if PD give us a proper Super GT expansion with 10 new GT300's and 10 new GT500's, new championship 10 races where you can decide AI skills and race lenght. Also an AI where they don't park the car when you are apporaching them.

The main reason why DLC are not selling huge numbers is they don't hype people enough.

This is one of the things that really bothers me about PD. All these new things in GT5 like Super GT, NASCAR, WRC, Top Gear and almost two years later and barely any of these things have been expanded upon. Why don't they take advantage of what they have and make them better?

 

[Adam41]

The main reason why DLC are not selling huge numbers is they don't hype people enough.

Who said this?

 

[Zuku]

This is one of the things that really bothers me about PD. All these new things in GT5 like Super GT, NASCAR, WRC, Top Gear and almost two years later and barely any of these things have been expanded upon. Why don't they take advantage of what they have and make them better?

Well this is what we hope for GT6 at least or this is what I hope. Cause if that doesn't happen honestly.....Well you know how that goes.

 

[Foxiol]

Maybe PD is quiet because they are working hard for all this. GT5 is/was a game with too many flaws...why keep releasing DLC´s for a product that is not going to satisfy costumers in the first place.
And i mean see the example of Forza 4...that game sold less copies than GT5 and they released one DLC per month...they did more money with DLC´s (70+/- more cars) than selling the game itself.

Gran Turismo 5 made more money with the game itself more than DLC´s...Maybe PD does´t need DLC´s as much as Turn 10 needs them but also PD released a "broken" game that needs a complete overhaul for the upcoming one.

They need to fix things that went wrong in the game before keep adding more content...if for example...i am always in the Sound thread because is one of the things that i want more...imagine that they keep releasing cars but with the same awful sound...the game will be the same no matter what cars they add...and probably with some more tracks...but why release them almost 2 years later?
This game is old now and "hype" worked when we were not sure about what we´re going to get before the game came out. But now...

Cars don´t change the game at all at this point.

Still we play it till today, the game worked and paid for itself more than tons of games in the market that you maybe play it once and then forget about it.

My hopes are all for Gran Turismo 6...fix what was wrong with GT5, add some more features but expand what we have already in the game, same with cars and race categories, the sound of the cars so we can enjoy them even more...etc.

Just because of this silence plus the technical issues from GT5...and mostly if they don´t say anything at TGS 2012...this game will be a PS4 release for 2014.

Too many games coming to PS3 in 2013, most of them exclusives, if PD doesn´t want to talk about GT6 and not even GT5 is just because they are working on it. We can expect something with the new "GT5 Academy Edition"...one last update and DLC maybe...but again...why at this point? No sense...at least to me.

Work on GT6 and give us a date whenever you want PD.

 

[MickQuin]

Yeah I think it is too late now in the console cycle to see GT6 on PS3

 

[thelvynau]

Yeah I think it is too late now in the console cycle to see GT6 on PS3

If its not announced at tgs 2012 then ill believe it would be on the ps4.

 

[TokoTurismo]

if its not announced at tgs 2012 then ill believe it would be on the ps4.

+1

 

[Watt2159]

I'm going to stick my neck out and say that GT6 will be released on PS3, and I'm only saying this because it would be easier for PD to release it before the PS4, and why, is because the source code is (technically) already written for it, the only thing PD has to do is add some features, touch up most of the standards, add a few tracks, tweak the graphics and physics a little, and there you have it, GT6.

 

[thelvynau]

I'm going to stick my neck out and say that GT6 will be released on PS3, and I'm only saying this because it would be easier for PD to release it before the PS4, and why, is because the source code is (technically) already written for it, the only thing PD has to do is add some features, touch up most of the standards, add a few tracks, tweak the graphics and physics a little, and there you have it, GT6.

For all we know the ps4 is the same format as ps3 only more powerful.

We cant comment on gt6 being ready for ps4 until we know the specs.

 

[Samus]

For all we know the ps4 is the same format as ps3 only more powerful.

We cant comment on gt6 being ready for ps4 until we know the specs.

Whilst this is true pretty much every single rumour and 'leak' suggests that they are dropping the CELL processor for PS4. I know rumours are just rumours but usually when they all say roughly the same thing they're usually correct.

If it is correct and they are moving back to a traditional x86 processor that means not one single line of code from GT5 will work on PS4. The cars and tracks and everything like that will be ok, they're just 3D models, but all the code, the backend, will have to be done from scratch.

 

[thelvynau]

Whilst this is true pretty much every single rumour and 'leak' suggests that they are dropping the CELL processor for PS4. I know rumours are just rumours but usually when they all say roughly the same thing they're usually correct.

If it is correct and they are moving back to a traditional x86 processor that means not one single line of code from GT5 will work on PS4. The cars and tracks and everything like that will be ok, they're just 3D models, but all the code, the backend, will have to be done from scratch.

Ah k I didnt know that they were moving from the cell processor good point.