5 reasons GT6 is a PS4 game

[Dan_]

All the other issues which are problematic are mostly PD's own design decisions and have nothing to do with the hardware it's running on.

Precisely, excepting perhaps the limitations in RAM, the PS3 is more than capable of running GT5 full scale. Why not just add a new game design and substantially improve content in order to make the sixth title? This is how it was with GT 1 and 2, and then 3 and 4. It's absolutely natural that they keep that philosophy.

If they do release GT6 on the PS4, I can only hope they don't try to reinvent the wheel and redo the game from scratch again, the five year hiatus was extremely prejudicial to the game as a brand.

 

[thelvynau]

Again though we're talking about phones here you know in 2 years time you're going to upgrade/hold off for a bit more depending on the situation.

With gaming consoles their like Washer/Dyers and other Appliances you don't go out and buy one just because. Maybe this is toooo extreme, but you get my point.

With certain tech yes you're right people will switch, but not as quick as you might think like I said from SNES to PS1 or N64 okay we had a reason to switch. Same thing with PS1 to PS2 there was a reason.

Although there was a reason to go from PS2 to PS3 Sony messed that up with a $600 price tag, and also something else they didn't realize that people actually got attached to the darn thing(PS2).

Now from PS3 to PS4 honestly I don't care what'cha say you can give me "WELL THE GRAPHICS ARE GOING TO BE EPICLY BETTER!" or some crappy line like that, but as far as I'm concerned I'm good with the PS3 for quite some time actually. Because although at first I wasn't happy with it I've grown attached to it just like my PS2, and the backlog I've got of games I want to play and beat of course. Like Heavenly Sword just to name at least one.

This I agree with +1

 

[avens]

On history. Each tech is getting faster to the masses. Tv to colour tv to satellite to LCD and so on. Each tech takes shorter time to reach masses. Think of Phone to portable (carphone) to cellular to a full smartphone. Smartphones (with Apple) took just a couple of years. Now its android, who knew what Android was 3 years ago? Ipad, what was Ipad 3 years ago? The list is long. What i want to say is that tech is moving on and we are happy to use it. Search the web, there are graphs and research on this subject.

The wii was in essence an overclocked gamecube, and by looking at videos it seems the wiiu is quite close to a xbox360.
Apple as a brand is a bad example since they just copypaste other people's ideas and put a nice badge on it. Google can help, but in essence they rip off microsoft a lot and those products were available to the masses at least 5 years before (in some cases 10 or more).

Of course RAM was an issue that made PD not add lots of things to the game, but those were secondary aspects that aren't related to actual content or improving the game as a whole.
GT5 on the PS4 would have been a bit better, using models and textures on the highest quality they have at the office (running on a PC) and so on, but the core flaws would still be there anyway, including standard cars and tracks, sounds, awful menu system, etc. Just better illumination and a cherry on top of a pile of crap.

What PD didn't get is that sequels in franchises have to be released as close as possible, even more so in console games. If you want to make money there's no such a thing as reaching perfection before releasing the product, because that takes an absurd amount of time.
Lets hope they don't make that mistake again, though Forza games are released every 2 years and it's been 1 year and 10 months since GT5.

 

[Samus]

http://www.trustedreviews.com/news/4k-ultra-hdtvs-will-sell-better-than-oled-say-analysts

it will go fast, no wonder PS4 should be 4K ready.

Analysts constantly get things wrong.

 

[V v G T v V]

I think it would be illogical for GT6 to not be on PS4 because if they lauch it for PS3... By the time they launch it PS4 would be just around the corner... So you would get a new game with suckier graphics then you could have if they waited a bit longer.
Plus seeing the money they are making of DLC, an make new DLC every 6 months, they are in no need to rush the GT6 development and launch... It not like their budget is running low and need a new product to make cash off of, am I right?

 

[Tornado]

http://www.trustedreviews.com/news/4k-ultra-hdtvs-will-sell-better-than-oled-say-analysts

it will go fast, no wonder PS4 should be 4K ready.

It is nice to know a stopgap video standard won't even have 1/4th market proliferation 5 years from now, I suppose. I'm not exactly sure why you brought it up, because the PS4 still won't support anything over 1080p native rendering because Sony need to actually be able to sell the thing, but I guess it's nice to know.



And no, 4k TV broadcasting still isn't "moving forward." Sony showing off a bunch of crap a few days ago to try to force the issue doesn't mean it's actually going to happen when broadcasters are just about finishing up making the switch to 1080p broadcasts.

 

[Samus]

4k HDTV will never exist, we've been over this several times.

 

[thelvynau]

4k HDTV will never exist, we've been over this several times.

its called beating a dead horse.

 

[Youngun]

4k HDTV will never exist, we've been over this several times.

Yeh it will, but not this year nor next. It may just be Disc resolution but will be around, TV Broadcasting would be to costly to upgrade everything, but wouldnt mind movies and Sports in 4k a few years down the line. Saves me forking out for a 4k player in a few years time too. I like see the future not living in the present, so why stop at 1080p if its here, if we go 4k then lower def may become cheaper to broadcast. 4k is possibility not probability, it may be included but only used through movie blurays (or what ever disc is next)

 

[Zuku]

its called beating a dead horse.

Exactly and honestly I need to start doing some research into this 4K gaming this is the stuff I'm talking about the casual gamer doesn't give a 🤬 about stuff like that especially if the game isn't fun which for me was GT5 case.

 

[Samus]

Yeh it will, but not this year nor next. It may just be Disc resolution but will be around, TV Broadcasting would be to costly to upgrade everything, but wouldnt mind movies and Sports in 4k a few years down the line. Saves me forking out for a 4k player in a few years time too. I like see the future not living in the present, so why stop at 1080p if its here, if we go 4k then lower def may become cheaper to broadcast. 4k is possibility not probability, it may be included but only used through movie blurays (or what ever disc is next)

I'm not saying 4k tech in general isn't coming, I'm saying 4k is not a planned HDTV format. We moved from 480/576i to 1080i, the next jump is to 8k, Ultra High Definition.

 

[Youngun]

And yes 4k gaming may be far far off but why shouldn't sony include it in there entertainment unit......?.?.?.?
After all, it does more then just gaming and i have a feeling it may do a bit more then this gen. They could do a stripped out pure gaming unit but thats a step back in Sonys eyes, even Microsoft is adding useless stuff to there unit making it less of a gaming console. Wii U is the only gaming console in my eyes, focusing on games rather than content.

I'm not saying 4k tech in general isn't coming, I'm saying 4k is not a planned HDTV format. We moved from 480/576i to 1080i, the next jump is to 8k, Ultra High Definition.

Thought we went to 720p in between, 2k was a little introduced but we were still increasing 1080p at the time, 4k would still be UHD, but lets see if samsung and panasonic take Sonys bate to create these tvs. My 3dLED tv is getting old now so need something new to spend cash on.

 

[Samus]

Are we really going to have this discussion again? 4k gaming is not going to be on the next gen systems, simple as that. 4k video, possibly. 4k gaming, not a chance.

 

[Youngun]

Are we really going to have this discussion again? 4k gaming is not going to be on the next gen systems, simple as that. 4k video, possibly. 4k gaming, not a chance.

And i said, 4k gaming no...... But its more than just gaming for Sony. If its not that big deal or cost to add, why not. The unit shouldn't be costly, its the TVs that are, but so were 1080p and 3D TVs a while back, now you can pick them up next to nothing. If their looking at another 10yr life cycle, then they need to think 10yrs ahead.

 

[Robin]

4k HDTV will never exist, we've been over this several times.

Um... they already do, and you can buy them. Most high end large Plasma's already do it and are for sale.

 

[Samus]

And yes 4k gaming may be far far off but why shouldn't sony include it in there entertainment unit......?.?.?.?
After all, it does more then just gaming and i have a feeling it may do a bit more then this gen. They could do a stripped out pure gaming unit but thats a step back in Sonys eyes, even Microsoft is adding useless stuff to there unit making it less of a gaming console. Wii U is the only gaming console in my eyes, focusing on games rather than content.



Thought we went to 720p in between, 2k was a little introduced but we were still increasing 1080p at the time, 4k would still be UHD, but lets see if samsung and panasonic take Sonys bate to create these tvs. My 3dLED tv is getting old now so need something new to spend cash on.

720p and 1080i were introduced together and I was talking of the maximum, of course even when UHDTV is created 1080i broadcasts will still exist.

I'm not sure what you're referring to with 2k, that is only a tiny bit more than 1920x1080 and has never been a TV format.

Um... they already do, and you can buy them. Most high end large Plasma's already do it and are for sale.

I was referring to 4k HDTV, as in the broadcast format. Not the screens.

 

[Youngun]

I'm not sure what you're referring to with 2k, that is only a tiny bit more than 1920x1080 and has never been a TV format.

2k is the width of the pixels, 2048x1080 so still 1080p but a wider ratio. 4k is quad times the height. Cinemas use 2k (believe there were a couple home sets too plus computer screens are higher than that ie iMac 27" is 3840x2160). I was talking about available formats. And in this country 720p tvs were sold before 1080p tvs were released ad HDready. UHD has already been shown through a few manufacturers, but at 80"+. Wouldn't be long till it shrinks and becomes cheaper. I don't care about broadcasts, its films and sports that i would want at a higher def. Doesn't matter if no ones ready or if no one wants it 'yet' shouldn't stop it coming.

 

[Tornado]

4K. Is. Not. Happening.


Even the link Mulan apparently posted to prove that it was only went so far as to estimate that 5 years from now only 1/5th of TV's on the market would have it. Broadcasters never had any intention of supporting it as a broadcast standard no matter how much Sony has tried to change their minds, the PS4 won't be built around it when it would add considerable amounts to the cost of the system for pretty much no practical gain, and based on how it has played out so far it will never be any more than a niche market TV manufacturers will use to boost their profit margins before broadcasters start rolling out the actual intended next step in broadcasting formats (Ultra High Definition). This discussion has been beat to death and resurrected probably a dozen times now, and it isn't even relevant to this thread in the first place. So can we drop this now, or at least take it to a thread where it applies?

Thought we went to 720p in between, 2k was a little introduced but we were still increasing 1080p at the time

The reason we had 720p in between SDTV and 1080p was... because it was always intended to be a broadcast standard. 💡

 

[Mulan]

Broadcasting is Sony. And broadcasting 4k is no problem. What is needed is bandwidh. Guessing in 5 years 100Mb/s is no problem. Tv eill go through internet and not so much through regular terrestrial broadcasting. Satellite broadcasters have the ability too.

As for 4k video, sony blurays have this and are not that expensive. So ps4 will have it for video.

 

[Tornado]

Broadcasting is Sony.

Sony is not broadcasting. There is no Sony channel equivalent to CBS, ABS or NBC; nor a Sony telecom company akin to Time Warner or DirecTV.

And broadcasting 4k is no problem. What is needed is bandwidh.

And cameras. And decoding hardware. And broadcasting equipment. And editing equipment. And etc. Plus keep in mind that 4K wasn't even standardized as a format until a month ago, so none of the broadcasters probably have any of those things even if there weren't still broadcasters who just made the regular HD jump.

Tv eill go through internet and not so much through regular terrestrial broadcasting.

No it won't. The current landscape for internet is actually moving away from making that possible with bandwidth limits and usage caps, even if the main broadcasters wanted to pursue eliminating their traditional broadcasting setups (which they don't).

As for 4k video, sony blurays have this and are not that expensive. So ps4 will have it for video.

That's nice. Where's the relevance to GT6?

 

[Dmarc_Atl]

6.It will release tomorrow on ps5.
My educated guess.

 

[Mulan]

What i ment with Sony is Broadcasting is that they are the main selling/renting partner for that stuff for TV companies, movies and so on...
And i do see Internet as the way to go for TV. Think of HBO who goes straight to costumor without middlehand. I see movies/series in 4K first hand, news, live shows perhaps will take some time.
4K and GT? Well i belive that GT TV can be 4K. Dont see any problem there.

 

[thelvynau]

What i ment with Sony is Broadcasting is that they are the main selling/renting partner for that stuff for TV companies, movies and so on...
And i do see Internet as the way to go for TV. Think of HBO who goes straight to costumor without middlehand. I see movies/series in 4K first hand, news, live shows perhaps will take some time.
4K and GT? Well i belive that GT TV can be 4K. Dont see any problem there.

Still doesnt mean it will happen there isnt enough facts to show it will happen soon.

 

[TheDabbinDave]

What i ment with Sony is Broadcasting is that they are the main selling/renting partner for that stuff for TV companies, movies and so on...
And i do see Internet as the way to go for TV. Think of HBO who goes straight to costumor without middlehand. I see movies/series in 4K first hand, news, live shows perhaps will take some time.
4K and GT? Well i belive that GT TV can be 4K. Dont see any problem there.

Can you afford a $22,000 4k display? Me neither.

 

[Zuku]

Can you afford a $22,000 4k display? Me neither.

We in the same boat brother

And even if I could the question would be why buy it/waste money on that especially knowing good and well it really won't be in use until maybe 3 decades later(maybe a bit of a stretch)?

 

[thelvynau]

Can you afford a $22,000 4k display? Me neither.

I could but why the hell would you for that price and with nothing much compatible with it in the market place.

 

[Tornado]

And i do see Internet as the way to go for TV.

Internet service providers don't seem to agree with you, or they wouldn't be rolling out usage limits and bandwidth caps (especially on mobile internet) and such as they have for the past few years that would actively inhibit using the internet in such a way.

4K and GT? Well i belive that GT TV can be 4K. Dont see any problem there.

That's pretty tenuous considering how useless GT TV was in GT5 means there is no guarantee it is coming back.

 

[Samus]

2k is the width of the pixels, 2048x1080 so still 1080p but a wider ratio. 4k is quad times the height. Cinemas use 2k (believe there were a couple home sets too plus computer screens are higher than that ie iMac 27" is 3840x2160). I was talking about available formats. And in this country 720p tvs were sold before 1080p tvs were released ad HDready. UHD has already been shown through a few manufacturers, but at 80"+. Wouldn't be long till it shrinks and becomes cheaper. I don't care about broadcasts, its films and sports that i would want at a higher def. Doesn't matter if no ones ready or if no one wants it 'yet' shouldn't stop it coming.

Um, you do realise the reason that 4k monitors that have been shown so far are so big, don't you? It isn't because 80"+ is easier to manufacture because obviously the opposite is true, the reason is that you need the screen to be that big to make a difference. Whatever the future is for 4k you won't be buying a 40" 4k TV, sit 6 feet away from it and marvel in the amazing new tech because you simply won't be able to tell the difference.

4k displays will only make sense at 70"+ or in smaller displays that you sit right in front, ie PC monitors. For TVs, they'll never be any use at a smaller size.

 

[Mulan]

Um, you do realise the reason that 4k monitors that have been shown so far are so big, don't you? It isn't because 80"+ is easier to manufacture because obviously the opposite is true, the reason is that you need the screen to be that big to make a difference. Whatever the future is for 4k you won't be buying a 40" 4k TV, sit 6 feet away from it and marvel in the amazing new tech because you simply won't be able to tell the difference.

4k displays will only make sense at 70"+ or in smaller displays that you sit right in front, ie PC monitors. For TVs, they'll never be any use at a smaller size.

Ok, don't know if you actually seen 4K, i was at IFA Germany and saw all the goodness coming. And if there was something that was really great was 4K tv's truly big differance even if they show 1080P material it was better, but with 4K it was amazing, you have to see it. And i know that prices are going down really fast. In 2-3 years a 4k tv will be at around 1500-2000$ and up.
And i can assure you there are customers out there that pay more for a TV today. And for content, belive it or not but google tv, apple tv or samsung Tv or whatever it will be called will go through the net. Internetproviders have no problem as long as there is money in it. Its the same (offtopic..but still..) with all the free apps for Apple/Android. The providers hate that because the bandwith is used alot more without them getting payed. So here is the "cap" in MB many set if you dont pay more.

Anyway, 4K will be great and if not games then "porn" industry will take things to the next level

 

[Samus]

Why did you quote me with that response? What you've just said is nothing to do with what I said.