7/4/12 - A-Spec: Expert Level Ferrari Formula Challenge

[Endless-Wilso]

Also thanks to all the people how said they like my setup ,since i first got my 1st F1 back in March 2011 ive put down near 20,000 game miles probably.
Im gonna go back and run some quick laps at the ring to see what times i can get and try out the F10 since im running in the GTP F10 league with Immortalpilot ive had enoff time that im feeling faster in the F10 now.
So i might post that tune aswell.

 

[SmunksRiley]

Glad to see we can utilise the F1 finally

Coin grinder too, 830PP @ Road Course Indy resulted in 1.7M+ coins!

I reckon the 2 million mark could easily be reached on the Nurburgring 24h track

I just run the ring with 640 and it gives u 1.6-1.8M, dont remember really well so with 630 u should get around 1.8-2M, even though the race gets harder, i cut some power and put downforce to the max, it helps a lot in turns, u should get on 1st before starting 2nd lap, trammy is set to 380km/h, i use F2007

 

[Hyped]

THANKS TO ENDLESS-WILSO FOR; TRANSMISSION, BRAKES, LSD, AND MOST OF THE SUSPENSION

F2007
788PP
3,387,237 Credits on 200% (PDA bonus: 2,481,927)
544,726 Experience on 200% (PDA bonus: 399,126)
Aero: 150/169
Ballast: 180kg at -15 position
Power Limiter: 521HP at 72.2%, fully broken in, new oil, may differ
LSD: 10/12/5
Transmission:
Set default
Set Top Speed to 193MPH/310.6KMH
Set 6th Gear to 1.470
Set 7th Gear to 1.238
Top Speed-upper right: 204MPH/328.3KMH
Suspension:
Spring Rate: 16.8/17.0
Extension: 6/7
Compression: 6/7
Anti-roll Bars: 6/5
Camber: 2.8/1.9
Toe: -0.15/0.50
Brakes: 10/10

Notes:
This car does experience oversteer at low speeds(around 1st and 2nd gear), but if you get it into a corner alright, then the car should stay on line, at least from my testing experiences, try to stay away from the Karussel at The 'Ring because the car has felt a bit unstable there, setting the ballast right in this setup is key, if you don't set it right then the car will have a massive amount of oversteer. Also, try to be going in as straight of a line as possible under braking, otherwise, if you try to turn, you will probably keep going in a straight line, I will be testing the brake balance to see if I can fix it.

EDIT: Seems like the balance should be kept at 10/10, since the brakes are so strong, you shouldn't really be having to brake while turning anyways. All the other sets I used would keep the understeer, but reduce brake power.

I just run the ring with 640 and it gives u 1.6-1.8M, dont remember really well so with 630 u should get around 1.8-2M, even though the race gets harder, i cut some power and put downforce to the max, it helps a lot in turns, u should get on 1st before starting 2nd lap, trammy is set to 380km/h, i use F2007

I hope you're talking about HP, if you were running the ring at 630PP, I would bow to you as that would easily get you 10million credits each time.

 

[SS Chuck]

If you are having trouble with the deep shade at Tokyo, pause the race when it starts and turn the "EV" levels up. It helps a lot.

 

[rayzer5]

Is this tune good for any tracks of the Seasonal?

Sorry, replied earlier but it didn't register...yes good for all tracks, can still win on all even tho hit rev limiter on long straits...if u want more top end just move final to adjust.

 

[SunsetSailor]

WOW! I can't understand how some people find the Nurburgring 24HR with a F1 the easiest. I found it the hardest: Took me nearly 3 hours to finally win it! Tokyo was a little hard, but was a piece-of-cake compared to the Green Hell! :/

Indy was so easy it was almost a little boring. I found Rome to be the most enjoyable. I didn't take the lead till the 9th lap so i was driving almost on on-my-limit the entire race. You should've seen some of the passes i made. At that acute-angled corner that feels like a hairpin but really isn't, i was able to duck in the inside without out-braking myself and threaded the narrowest of gaps between the apex and the AI rival. I found myself making gutsy passes i didn't think i was capable of!?

To me, Eiffel was definitely the EASIEST! ...Partially because it's similar to a GP track i created myself in course creator (which is also now shared for online use... ^.^ ), so i'm used to such blind corners. I took the lead on the 6th lap and, even with a few slip-ups, still won by 15 seconds.

 

[Hyped]

WOW! I can't understand how some people find the Nurburgring 24HR with a F1 the easiest. I found it the hardest: Took me nearly 3 hours to finally win it! Tokyo was a little hard, but was a piece-of-cake compared to the Green Hell! :/

The Ring requires a good setup and track knowledge. You will gain knowledge as you race the track, and depending on which Formula car you're using, there are many setups in this thread.

 

[Endless-Wilso]

Managed to win Nur at 784pp and still keep 184 rear downforce. lowered my camber to 3.0 and changed the spring rate to 17.2/17.0 still under 7min's for the second lap. 3.4 mill

 

[Hyped]

Managed to win Nur at 784pp and still keep 184 rear downforce. lowered my camber to 3.0 and changed the spring rate to 17.2/17.0 still under 7min's for the second lap. 3.4 mill

Did you add weight or reduce power?

 

[bloodstriker]

So they give us Spa and Suzuka, and the F1 nurburgring grand prix tack and none of them make into a f1 seasonal...

 

[SunsetSailor]

The Ring requires a good setup and track knowledge. You will gain knowledge as you race the track, and depending on which Formula car you're using, there are many setups in this thread.

I have a good feel for the track (i think?!) and can be precise with GT500 race cars and road cars. Also, i do have all aids off except ABS set on 1. I only switch on the skid recovery force for F1s, the Formula GT and the X1.

However, F1s are too fast for me to be as precise as the track requires. They're not even suitable to Green Hell anyway. It would've made more sense to simply use the GP track.

And no, i can't even keep the X1 on the track at all. Don't even get me started on the Vettel challenges: Even when i do keep it on the tracks, my best is at least 10 seconds too slow! ...Used to be 20 secs prior to that update.

 

[Bye Ya]

THANKS TO ENDLESS-WILSO FOR; TRANSMISSION, BRAKES, LSD, AND MOST OF THE SUSPENSION

F2007
788PP
3,387,237 Credits on 200% (PDA bonus: 2,481,927)
544,726 Experience on 200% (PDA bonus: 399,126)
Aero: 150/169
Ballast: 180kg at -15 position
Power Limiter: 521HP at 72.2%, fully broken in, new oil, may differ
LSD: 10/12/5
Transmission:
Set default
Set Top Speed to 193MPH/310.6KMH
Set 6th Gear to 1.470
Set 7th Gear to 1.238
Top Speed-upper right: 204MPH/328.3KMH
Suspension:
Spring Rate: 16.8/17.0
Extension: 6/7
Compression: 6/7
Anti-roll Bars: 6/5
Camber: 2.8/1.9
Toe: -0.15/0.50
Brakes: 10/10

Notes:
This car does experience oversteer at low speeds(around 1st and 2nd gear), but if you get it into a corner alright, then the car should stay on line, at least from my testing experiences, try to stay away from the Karussel at The 'Ring because the car has felt a bit unstable there, setting the ballast right in this setup is key, if you don't set it right then the car will have a massive amount of oversteer. Also, try to be going in as straight of a line as possible under braking, otherwise, if you try to turn, you will probably keep going in a straight line, I will be testing the brake balance to see if I can fix it.

EDIT: Seems like the balance should be kept at 10/10, since the brakes are so strong, you shouldn't really be having to brake while turning anyways. All the other sets I used would keep the understeer, but reduce brake power.



I hope you're talking about HP, if you were running the ring at 630PP, I would bow to you as that would easily get you 10million credits each time.

That's some pretty great payout. Thanks, I will try this out. 👍

 

[Tyger]

Looking forward to this but like many others I also find it odd that they didn't use other F1 tracks. I guess it's nice to imagine the Rome street circuit being on the F1 calendar though

But again, where is the love for the Daytona Road Course? Has it *ever* appeared in a seasonal? The Indy road course has appeared several times, and does again here. Strange.

 

[m8h3r]

Tuning is not allowed in this race

Tunes

 

[Endless-Wilso]

No where De-Tuned 👍

Did you add weight or reduce power?

I actually wasnt looking at what i was doing but i was shure i saw 400 somthing HP so yeah power .
With a near prefect lap 770pp even 760 could be a win but the setup and lap would need to be spot on.

 

[Kwicko]

I just cannot get a decent run at the Nurb. Best I've done is 6th place. I can pull to within 8 seconds of first, but something always goes wrong and I spin or crash heavily. Just having a hard time keeping it between the kerbs! I'll keep trying, since I finished all the others already...

 

[houdini57]

Nurb at 775pp for 3.7 million

 

[GTP_Patrick1]

I never really ran the F1s much, but they are fun and really take concentration. The mistake I was making was not crashing, but being too conservative, these F1 cars handle so much differently than anything else. You have to hit the gas as soon as possible coming out of corners, or you will lose too much time. It just takes a few runs to realize that these cars will stay on the track where as other high powered cars would not. One other thing I noticed is the AIs are pretty aggressive at trying to overcome you if you go too slowly through a turn. I liked that.

 

[SunsetSailor]

I just cannot get a decent run at the Nurb. Best I've done is 6th place. I can pull to within 8 seconds of first, but something always goes wrong and I spin or crash heavily. Just having a hard time keeping it between the kerbs! I'll keep trying, since I finished all the others already...

I hear ya. Took me 3 hours to finally win it. ...And a couple of beers!?

At first, i was averaging approx 14 seconds behind by the end of lap 1. Then i started averaging 10 seconds behind. One time of which i took the lead only to throw it away before the long straight.

After a few minutes of composing myself and another LIGHT beer later, (my 2nd) i got within 5 seconds at the end of lap 1. Then i knew i should get it this time. It was just a case of staying composed under pressure. I only won by 0.6 seconds!

I too struggled with keeping the F1 on the track. Are you you using the F10, or the F2007? Apparently, the F2007 is better with handling/cornering & as such, is easier to drive.

If you don't have an F2007 & you want to try it, i've made it available online if you want to add me. Best of Luck!?

 

[Obsidian-2]

I got gold in all races with both the F2007 and F10, stock settings with just the power limited to reach the PP. F10 is faster but the F2007 is a lot more forgiving.

Will see how low in PP I can get at Nurb ... should be good fun. Excellent seasonal.

I have both cars up for share so add me if u need one.

 

[Kwicko]

I hear ya. Took me 3 hours to finally win it. ...And a couple of beers!?

At first, i was averaging approx 14 seconds behind by the end of lap 1. Then i started averaging 10 seconds behind. One time of which i took the lead only to throw it away before the long straight.

After a few minutes of composing myself and another LIGHT beer later, (my 2nd) i got within 5 seconds at the end of lap 1. Then i knew i should get it this time. It was just a case of staying composed under pressure. I only won by 0.6 seconds!

I too struggled with keeping the F1 on the track. Are you you using the F10, or the F2007? Apparently, the F2007 is better with handling/cornering & as such, is easier to drive.

If you don't have an F2007 & you want to try it, i've made it available online if you want to add me. Best of Luck!?

Thanks, I'm currently running the F2007; it does seem a bit more forgiving than the F10. I'm running Wilso's setup, and it's helping (I've kept the power up, though, going to the full 871pp limit). I'm up to 4th now. I had first place by the Karussel on Lap 2, but spun and threw it all away just before the long straight. I held the lead through what I consider the hardest part of the course, but then I blinked!

I'll get there, but I don't get much joy out of it.

 

[Giulietta73]

Down to 799pp in the F10 for 3mil Cr on the Nurb. Not bad for 14 mins work....except it isnt 14 mins is it! How many restarts before 2 perfect laps come along???!!!!!
But, absolutely great seasonal!!!! The Ferraris handle so much better than the FGTs on RH tires.

 

[zippy_the_cat]

I never really ran the F1s much, but they are fun and really take concentration. The mistake I was making was not crashing, but being too conservative, these F1 cars handle so much differently than anything else. You have to hit the gas as soon as possible coming out of corners, or you will lose too much time. It just takes a few runs to realize that these cars will stay on the track where as other high powered cars would not. One other thing I noticed is the AIs are pretty aggressive at trying to overcome you if you go too slowly through a turn. I liked that.

Yep to all of the above. I don't get all the caterwauling about these cars, to me they're wonderful. Key to winning in them is realizing you have more grip than you think and can really dial in steering movement. Some brake zones aren't brake zones in these cars, all they take is a quick lift. The Rome race is easy-peezy, with only the kink in the back stretch being at all challenging. The Nurb, well, that's another story. But keep it off the grass and off the curbs and you will win. Tokyo Reverse really highlights how differently you have to drive one of the F1s versus anything else in the game. The climb between the straights through the subway-station turns is taken flat or nearly so, whereas in an ordinary car you'd have to be a lot more conservative.

 

[Giulietta73]

Yep to all of the above. I don't get all the caterwauling about these cars, to me they're wonderful. Key to winning in them is realizing you have more grip than you think and can really dial in steering movement. Some brake zones aren't brake zones in these cars, all they take is a quick lift. The Rome race is easy-peezy, with only the kink in the back stretch being at all challenging. The Nurb, well, that's another story. But keep it off the grass and off the curbs and you will win. Tokyo Reverse really highlights how differently you have to drive one of the F1s versus anything else in the game. The climb between the straights through the subway-station turns is taken flat or nearly so, whereas in an ordinary car you'd have to be a lot more conservative.

Totally agree. Do a few tester laps in practice mode - you need to relearn all the braking points - but more importantly, as Zippy says, you need to learn all the corners that are either flat out or need a small lift. The almighty Schwedenkreunz is completely flat at 200mph - glorious! And the final corner before the long straight! For me, the key has been to balance nearly total downforce (for effective braking and high apex speed) with max ballast and engine reduction - you need the BHP. I found that reducing the engine without full ballast just didn't provide enough grunt. Besides, taking one of those beauties down to 400bhp seems so wrong!

 

[Hyped]

Got down to 780PP, you lose a lot on the straights, but it is still an easy win.

 

[rgkmaNando]

Had couple goes at the Nurburgring seasonal, find hard to get good couple laps in. Give it another crack later tonight. Cracking seasonal.

 

[z06fun]

I think Eifel is the track is better for making fast money.
F2007 @ 765pp
$3.755 million
541.7k exp points
race time ~11 minutes 18 seconds
I took 1st during lap 7 so this could be lowered even more

I used this (543hp, 745kg):
power limiter 85.3% (my car has ~6k miles and never had an oil change)
200kg ballast @ 9
wings 83/117
spr 17.6 15.1
damp 4/5
3/4
bars 3/2

camber 1.6/0.8
toe -.22/.4

lsd 7/25/9
brakes 8/6 to allow some trail brake

I'm running very low wing because the car is floored so much of the time on Eifel. It seems much easy in general to win at Eifel at a given PP, but the base payout is a little less than the ring. But still you can make a lot of money very fast

 

[Kwicko]

Whew- FINALLY beat the Green Hell! Won it by 2.029 seconds. I took the lead just as we turned onto the Nordschleife for the second lap, and never gave it back. I was up by over 7 seconds at one point, but I was too concerned about spinning or crashing, so I was being very conservative the whole second lap once I got first place.

I'm sharing the F2007 I won it with, as well as an F10 if anyone wants to try them. Hit me up on PSN (I'm Kwicko there, too).

ETA: The F2007 tune is based off Wilso's, but with more downforce, more HP, and more ballast, and a bit less toe on the rear (-0.15F/+0.40R). Seems a mite less twitchy.

 

[zippy_the_cat]

Totally agree. Do a few tester laps in practice mode - you need to relearn all the braking points - but more importantly, as Zippy says, you need to learn all the corners that are either flat out or need a small lift. The almighty Schwedenkreunz is completely flat at 200mph - glorious! And the final corner before the long straight!

The final corner before the straight on the Nurb can be taken flat, but for the sake of a clean lap the entry shouldn't be. It still has that bump at the initial apex that can/will pitch the car left onto the grass. So if things are going well on lap 1 and lap 2, give it a slight lift before you hit the apex just to take the edge off. On the other hand, if you're still trailing when you get to this point, go ahead, keep the pedal to the metal, and trust your reflexes to keep the car on the road. Just know that like everywhere else around the Nurb, if the wheels touch grass, you will snap-spin, violently.

 

[houdini57]

Nurb at 770pp for 3.8 million