A month later, your opinion on GTSport?

[Deadheadbill]

Only online save? ...

Yes. This very site reported it even.

https://www.gtplanet.net/gt-sport-requires-internet-connection-game-saves/

 

[Veinz]

Only online save? ...

It sucks when they are doing maintenance or whatever but the other 99% of time it's really nbd to me.

 

[PzR Slim]

This whole 'you knew what you were getting' is a huge distraction. If the game was actually any good the lack of content and limited focus wouldn't be a problem but it's not. Many people took a punt even though they were concerned in the lead up to release. The question the OP asked was 'One month later, your opinion on GT Sport?' It's still entirely possible to be hugely disappointed with the game even with prior knowledge of what the game was about.

 

[cjr3559]

I preordered knowing full well I would probably be disappointed, because I'm one of those people that will probably buy a GT game regardless. I just can't keep my mouth shut about my disappointment.

I participated in the closed beta and initially stayed in arcarde mode until they closed it off, forcing the participants to test the Sport mode. I became tired of Sport mode quickly.

Then I downloaded the Demo and knew nothing had changed, except more of the final features were available to try. Could have backed out of my preorder but didn't.

Bottom line is, I hope they come out with more content but I'm not holding my breath. Maybe a few more tracks, a few more cars, but I'm not expecting much more than that. In the meantime the game is basically on the back shelf behind other games right now. I play it for a couple hours and then move on to other things.

 

[Mires]

Yes and no. You skipped the part about everyone who bought a PS4 with faith in the GT brand to deliver, well, more.
There's also the denial factor. I had it with GT5, when they said 280ish premiums, and x-hundred standards ported from PS2. My brain said, "No way. It sounds like they mean it will have hundreds of cars that have PS2 graphics, that can't possibly be true. there is simply no ****ing way that's what it means."
After reading enough of Kaz's famous quotes, you get to a point where you have to try to interpret, because what he says and what happens are never the same, your brain has no choice, because it knows that what he did say, is the one and only thing that will not happen. So your brain improvises.

And like I said, even I wouldn't have believed it would be this low in content, I would have believed 300 cars maybe, but not 180 with a bunch of them just being tuned variants and a quarter of them made up.

The only reason I didn't get a PS4 for GT, is because of how everything went with GT on PS3. (And I was totally right that they stayed on the same path)

Hmm, reacting just on your first sentence - why did they bought PS4 post -release, for big money, when they wanted it only for GT? There was no rumors, no news which were saying that GT6 will be ported to PS4. Why didnt they waited till the release, as i did bought my system 2 days after the date this game went live.

 

[Deadheadbill]

This whole 'you knew what you were getting' is a huge distraction. If the game was actually any good the lack of content and limited focus wouldn't be a problem but it's not. Many people took a punt even though they were concerned in the lead up to release. The question the OP asked was 'One month later, your opinion on GT Sport?' It's still entirely possible to be hugely disappointed with the game even with prior knowledge of what the game was about.

If you look at this and other threads on this site alone you will find that many many other people do not share your opinion.

 

[PzR Slim]

If you look at this and other threads on this site alone you will find that many many other people do not share your opinion.

And if you look in this and other threads you will see that many, many people do. However, that was not my point. My point was to argue against this ridiculous notion being put forward that because we knew what the game was going to be we shouldn't complain which seems to be the stance some are taking.

 

[Mires]

And if you look in this and other threads you will see that many, many people do. However, that was not my point. My point was to argue against this ridiculous notion being put forward that because we knew what the game was going to be we shouldn't complain which seems to be the stance some are taking.

As of my personal feeling - many of those newly made accounts of some of the complainers could be registered intentionally to make the rant about GT Sport more active than it could be normally. X accounts complaining about the same, in the same time window, really feels suspicious that everyone just came up to this site, made an account and complained about the same thing. In the same day!

As I said, this is my personal feeling, no one needs to share the same, agree with, or disagree.

 

[PzR Slim]

As of my personal feeling - many of those newly made accounts of some of the complainers could be registered intentionally to make the rant about GT Sport more active than it could be normally. X accounts complaining about the same, in the same time window, really feels suspicious that everyone just came up to this site, made an account and complained about the same thing. In the same day!

As I said, this is my personal feeling, no one needs to share the same, agree with, or disagree.

However, I assume all the new members who have signed up and have only good things to say are completely legit and not suspicious at all?

Nobody can read anything into new members signing up and saying good or bad things. We have no way of telling which are legit or not.

 

[torque99]

I am going to have to say I really love it! More so now a month on than on release.

The livery editor with all these new decal uploads is awesome! I think after playing all the other racers it just has that feeling of 'easy to play' for me, the odd hour a day it is fun and really enjoyable with no settings to mess with or cars to set up unless I want to.

It handles really well on the DS4 (sens 5) /motion control (sens -2) and the T300 wheel. The excellent Sport mode, the rally tracks and handling I love, sliding the back end out is easy and fun on the DS4. So far there is enough content and I am working my way through the cars and tracks slowly.

I only have praise for the Photo modes and Scapes as they are the best on any game (4K).
The game is beautiful on my 4K HDR TV. The textures are so solid and hardly any jaggies to be seen.


There are a few things that I think need improving, i.e the VR with more cars and options , lots more road and classic cars could be added and there being rain! But overall I think it has great potential for this game engine to only get better now and hopefully news very soon on an update or DLC.

 

[Mires]

However, I assume all the new members who have signed up and have only good things to say are completely legit and not suspicious at all?

Nobody can read anything into new members signing up and saying good or bad things. We have no way of telling which are legit or not.

They may be legit, i dunno, i just said it was my personal feeling to see 10 new threads per day (sometimes it was in few hours) from different new accounts with almost identical text and vibe in them. Therefore I say it is suspicious as being intentional let down of the game.

Yes, there are bugs in the game, and some things need to be adjusted, and as content will come, there will be fixes comming aswell. Always was it like that, and everyone knows about.

 

[Northstar]

Yes, there are bugs in the game, and some things need to be adjusted, and as content will come, there will be fixes comming aswell. Always was it like that, and everyone knows about.

So how is the developer supposed to hear about those things if people pretend everything is sunshine and lollipops?

And yes, I knew what GTS was going to be before it came out. That’s why I don’t own a PS4 or GTS. I do like what PD is capable of though so I will voice my opinion in the hopes it will play a small part in changing their minds.

 

[Mires]

So how is the developer supposed to hear about those things if people pretend everything is sunshine and lollipops?

And yes, I knew what GTS was going to be before it came out. That’s why I don’t own a PS4 or GTS. I do like what PD is capable of though so I will voice my opinion in the hopes it will play a small part in changing their minds.

There are threads to report bugs, there are threads of general discussion about game. No need to whine in each and separated thread about, what is supposetd to be the only thing PD cannot handle out - human behaviour.

 

[GTWelsh]

So how is the developer supposed to hear about those things if people pretend everything is sunshine and lollipops?

And yes, I knew what GTS was going to be before it came out. That’s why I don’t own a PS4 or GTS. I do like what PD is capable of though so I will voice my opinion in the hopes it will play a small part in changing their minds.

Nothing wrong with constructive criticism. But a lot of what I see isn't constructive (at least that's how I see it, as I am me, and obviously can only form an opinion based on what I think), some of it is just "I've had a bad time and I'm ranting", which isn't any help to me or any other forum user, unless they want to join in and feel better by collectively ranting, but GTP has a thread just for that. This also equally goes for positive threads with no meaning, eg, "Who else had a great days racing". But I'm unsure of how GTP handles such threads, this is just my view on it It's also worth noting some forum cleaning being done by the moderators isn't exactly announced so will go unnoticed, thankless heroes. New people to GTP will always tend to make a new thread too as they probably came here specifically to rant about something to a community that can have input.

Sorry for editing the post after posting, got to be very careful how I word these things.

 

[McLaren]

As of my personal feeling - many of those newly made accounts of some of the complainers could be registered intentionally to make the rant about GT Sport more active than it could be normally. X accounts complaining about the same, in the same time window, really feels suspicious that everyone just came up to this site, made an account and complained about the same thing. In the same day!

As I said, this is my personal feeling, no one needs to share the same, agree with, or disagree.

Care to show some examples then? Be sure to quote the members as well so they're notified and can respond to your notion that they're all duplicate accounts made just to complain.

 

[Mires]

What is the point of quoting them down? How you find out that them not duplicate? Cause when they respond? really, isn't that easy to have more accounts and pretend it is different person? And about those threads - they may, or may not be deleted. Not sure about how mods working with these, so...

As i said (multiple times, as I see), it was my personal feeling - wanna slap me for that?

 

[MikeTheHockeyFan]

My take is: You vote with your wallet.

If you bought GT Sport with full knowledge of what you were getting, you are implicitly endorsing the product and contributing to the problem you are upset about (the abandoning of the old GT game design).

This is why I have little patience for folks who did tons of research, wanted a classic GT game, knew what GT Sport was, and purchased it anyway, only to come here and whine day in day out. You paid for the game, you gave Sony Interactive Entertainment your money, hence you are endorsing the product that dissatisfies you.

It's the same way in which folks implicitly endorse yearly sports games by purchasing them. If you want real change or to get the publisher's attention, organize a boycott on social media or something.

 

[Scaff]

There are threads to report bugs, there are threads of general discussion about game. No need to whine in each and separated thread about, what is supposetd to be the only thing PD cannot handle out - human behaviour.

You don't get to make that call.

If you don't have a problem with people being positive about GTS, then you don't get to tell people who may have a negative opinion to not post.

If it's within the AUP then people can post it, GT Planet never has been a pro GT echo chamber.

What is the point of quoting them down? How you find out that them not duplicate? Cause when they respond? really, isn't that easy to have more accounts and pretend it is different person? And about those threads - they may, or may not be deleted. Not sure about how mods working with these, so...

As i said (multiple times, as I see), it was my personal feeling - wanna slap me for that?

The staff would know, they are not, stop with the conspiracy nonsense.

 

[rono_thomas]

So the thread is titled your opinion one month on, theres no bias in the title, can be positive negative anywhere in between.

As usual it turns into the positive posters essentially saying “get over it” to the negative posters.

Why do the positive posters feel the need to shut down the negative posters everytime every thread?

 

[Mires]

You don't get to make that call.

If you don't have a problem with people being positive about GTS, then you don't get to tell people who may have a negative opinion to not post.

If it's within the AUP then people can post it, GT Planet never has been a pro GT echo chamber.


The staff would know, they are not, stop with the conspiracy nonsense.

Just replying to the question thrown on me. If that's against rules, then i'm guilty.

About the second thing - is it bad to have own opinion? If they can rant about, and it's within rules, all is ok, if someone has different opinion and reacts, it is bad?

Good, quiet from now, won't say a damn word again...

 

[PzR Slim]

My take is: You vote with your wallet.

If you bought GT Sport with full knowledge of what you were getting, you are implicitly endorsing the product and contributing to the problem you are upset about (the abandoning of the old GT game design).

This is why I have little patience for folks who did tons of research, wanted a classic GT game, knew what GT Sport was, and purchased it anyway, only to come here and whine day in day out. You paid for the game, you gave Sony Interactive Entertainment your money, hence you are endorsing the product that dissatisfies you.

It's the same way in which folks implicitly endorse yearly sports games by purchasing them. If you want real change or to get the publisher's attention, organize a boycott on social media or something.

Not one single person bought GTS in the full knowledge of what they were getting.

 

[Deadheadbill]

So the thread is titled your opinion one month on, theres no bias in the title, can be positive negative anywhere in between.

As usual it turns into the positive posters essentially saying “get over it” to the negative posters.

Why do the positive posters feel the need to shut down the negative posters everytime every thread?

Well, I just went over the entire thread and found out of the 171 posts, maybe 5 that meet your criteria. As far as counting the actual posts, I stopped counting after I got to 20 negative posts without a single person telling them to "get over it".

 

[rono_thomas]

Well, I just went over the entire thread and found out of the 171 posts, maybe 5 that meet your criteria. As far as counting the actual posts, I stopped counting after I got to 20 negative posts without a single person telling them to "get over it".

Missed the part where a Mod just stepped in?

 

[GTWelsh]

Just replying to the question thrown on me. If that's against rules, then i'm guilty.

About the second thing - is it bad to have own opinion? If they can rant about, and it's within rules, all is ok, if someone has different opinion and reacts, it is bad?

Good, quiet from now, won't say a damn word again...

I've been in your shoes mate, got shot down pretty regularly for opinion denying, I keep quiet now with these kinda things or pick my words very carefully on the rare occasion I say something it's best to just not bother. Let the moaners moan and try ignore it.

 

[rono_thomas]

Let the moaners moan and try ignore it.

Exactly right. Thats the correct way, opinions are allowed even if they are disagreed with.

 

[Deadheadbill]

Missed the part where a Mod just stepped in?

Haha, I guess I did.

Edit: Oh yeah, I had already seen that and that is awesome, that is what a mod is supposed to do. It's a big stretch from a mod calling out one poster, to the entire thread devolving to simply "get over it" don't you think?

 

[GTWelsh]

Exactly right. Thats the correct way, opinions are allowed even if they are disagreed with.

Yeah, I do agree, but it wasn't as cut and dry as "you're wrong I'm right" but it was more along the lines of my opinion was taken as being defensive and denying another person's opinion, it was never intended too, but it all became very abrasive and unnecessarily so.

 

[PzR Slim]

Let the moaners moan and try ignore it.

Or you could say, let the people who feel they have legitimate concerns discuss those concerns

 

[rono_thomas]

It's a big stretch from a mod calling out one poster, to the entire thread devolving to simply "get over it" don't you think?

I was generalising, but it has been a trend since GTS release. Thankfully this attitude has slowly reduced.

Having said that, I may be wrong, but I’ve not seen the roles reversed. If I am wrong I would stretch to claim that its far far less.

 

[super_gt]

I've been in your shoes mate, got shot down pretty regularly for opinion denying, I keep quiet now with these kinda things or pick my words very carefully on the rare occasion I say something it's best to just not bother. Let the moaners moan and try ignore it.

On the other hand I try to avoid posting in the GT Spot forum because I am very negative towards GT and I do not want to spoil the fun of these guys who like the game,now back on the topic.