A month later, your opinion on GTSport?

[apexpredator100]

After a month of playing this game, I have to give PD credit for its online racing structure. Sport Mode is probably the most well organized online matchmaking structure for sim racing games outside of iRacing. Most of the races I've been in so far have been clean and competitive compared to other racing titles, such as Forza and Project Cars. I think we can all agree that GT Sport needs a lot more content, which is probably the biggest thing hurting this game right now. The foundation is already in place for GT Sport to be an amazing game, but the lack of cars and tracks, along with the absence of a traditional campaign is holding it back.

 

[BrunusCL82]

Sport mode is very good. Your tools are great. However, we expect a lot to run and there are no cups and mini-championships. GTS looks like a game made too lazy to put content.

 

[azrael1965]

On the other hand I try to avoid posting in the GT Spot forum because I am very negative towards GT and I do not want to spoil the fun of these guys who like the game,now back on the topic.

Thanks!👍

 

[Scaff]

Just replying to the question thrown on me. If that's against rules, then i'm guilty.

About the second thing - is it bad to have own opinion? If they can rant about, and it's within rules, all is ok, if someone has different opinion and reacts, it is bad?

Good, quiet from now, won't say a damn word again...

You accused members of creating multiple accounts to target GTS with negative feedback.

That's quite a serious allegation to make, as such don't be surprised if you get asked to support it.

I'm quite sure that if an allegation was made in regard to you breaking the AUP you would expect your accuser to be providing evidence.

As such the passive aggressive dig isn't required, however a little more respect for your fellow members, regardless of how long them have been here is.

 

[dylpro]

Nor was the demo (please stop calling it a beta, it wasn't advertised as that at all, it only said beta when you downloaded it, every press release and store advertisement called it a demo).

Members here were still debating what the final product would contain after the demo had closed, so no it wasn't crystal clear at all.

Except for PD calling it the "Open beta". It's not inaccurate to call it that if that's what the developer advertised it as.

And a demo, or open beta if you will, released 5 days before the official release date should give anyone a fairly reasonable assumption of what the game will be. Just because members here were still debating what it would be doesn't mean it was a worthwhile debate.

 

[freedom1104]

How many of those in the second category only want to hear the new stuff though?

For instance, I like Metallica’s new album, but I would be rather disappointed if they skipped Master of Puppets during a concert.

It’s the same thing with GT, I like that they are working on making online as good as it can be, but they should still make sure to include what made the game great in the first place.

Exactly.!! Like Eagles' concert without Hotel California.

We will be getting the dlc for free. Did we have to pay for dlc for gt6 or gt5? No. And besides cars and tracks they have made many changes to the game and engine. We all knew there weren’t gonna be that many tracks or cars at launch. I just don’t get all the whining from everybody when we all knew exactly what we were getting into.

Did we had to pay to race online in GT5P/GT5/GT6?

Kaz and Sony have both said that the dlc will come and be free! Just chill, wait and see.

No offense but you just seem like you want to be pessimistic and just complain that you didn’t get your way like so many people in this day and age do. Mark my words, we will not pay for dlc, tracks or cars. The game will keep being added to and will slowly be fleshed out more. There is always so much hate whe PD comes out with something new but shortly after it’s all good because they actually support their games unlike so many others. W have been told we won’t pay for future updates and add ons.

Source TQ.

I just dont get the idea of these people trying to convince everybody to believe his own fantasy without any conclude evidence that what he said is gonna happened.

 

[Deadheadbill]

Did we had to pay to race online in GT5P/GT5/GT6?

.

People keep saying that as if it is a knock on GT Sport. PD had absolutely nothing to do with that. That is a decision SONY made when they went to the PS4. If you want to play Project Cars 2, Overwatch, Rainbow 6, Battlefield 1, Call of Duty, Nhl 17, Madden 17 etc etc etc, you have to have PSplus. Welcome to 2017.

 

[Johnnypenso]

And a demo, or open beta if you will, released 5 days before the official release date should give anyone a fairly reasonable assumption of what the game will be. Just because members here were still debating what it would be doesn't mean it was a worthwhile debate.

And the debate continues post release, especially when the developer has said that all the features of prior games are forthcoming. They certainly aren't in the game now so lots to look forward to.

 

[dylpro]

And the debate continues post release, especially when the developer has said that all the features of prior games are forthcoming. They certainly aren't in the game now so lots to look forward to.

If you believe PD will follow thru on such promises.

 

[Ron Tharappel]

Sad to say I have given up on GTS for good. I even returned the PS4 Pro to the store, mainly because every 3rd or 4th time I would turn it on, the signal would fail to my TV, possibly because my TV is not 4K?? IDK. Anyway, I only bought the PS4 because of GTS. Unfortunately, I can't return the game, but watch for it on ebay! For those interested, my main gripes, from a person that has played every version of this game starting with the PS1, are #1 it is impossible to control the cars using a DS4 with the LSD Acc set to 40. Maybe others can, but I can't do it. This sucks every bit of enjoyment out of this game for me. Second, I don't play online. I hate rude drivers in simulation and in real life. Third, the campaign section features way too much Ring content. Don't get me wrong, I respect the Ring, I also lack skills to run it. So, having reached the end of campaign mode for me, I decided I was done. I hope things improve in the next iteration!

 

[azrilnazli]

bought 1 year of iRacing at usd82.50 and also 1 year of PS+ just for gtsport.

I will only play these 2 titles back to back for the whole 2018

4 seasons of iRacing
- gt3
- porsche cup
- IMSA

12 months FIA cup in gts.

why ?
because they shared the same online structure that make my interests on other title a bit low

 

[richiem2282]

Haven't missed a day on it so far and haven't touched another game since. A grind for sure but ultimately rewarding on a daily basis. Level 31 as of this weekend.

 

[BallPtPenTheif]

Second, I don't play online. I hate rude drivers in simulation and in real life.

it's unfortunate you quit on it. of all of the games i've ever played, Sport has the cleanest drivers i've ever raced against. even at SR B people were maniacs but they were still less ******** than Driveclub.

 

[Johnnypenso]

If you believe PD will follow thru on such promises.

I believe that is the subject of the debate

 

[Scaff]

Except for PD calling it the "Open beta". It's not inaccurate to call it that if that's what the developer advertised it as.

And a demo, or open beta if you will, released 5 days before the official release date should give anyone a fairly reasonable assumption of what the game will be. Just because members here were still debating what it would be doesn't mean it was a worthwhile debate.

Except they didn't.

It's a discussion that's been had here a number of times, and none of the press releases or store info called it an open beta. It's was only flagged as a beta when you downloaded it.

Sony had a closed beta, said they wanted another beta, said one wouldn't happen. Then said a limited time demo was coming, then called it a beta only after you downloaded it.

Feel free to provide a press release calling it a beta at the time.

https://www.gtplanet.net/gt-sport-four-day-demo-now-live/

https://www.gtplanet.net/gran-turismo-sport-demo-october-9/

https://blog.eu.playstation.com/201...t-limited-time-demo-goes-live-on-9th-october/

It's a moot point however, I've been a Sony Beta tester for around a decade, during that time I've never seen a beta that was fully functional or that anyone would be foolish enough to take as fully representative of the finished product.

 

[dylpro]

Except they didn't.

It's a discussion that's been had here a number of times, and none of the press releases or store info called it an open beta. It's was only flagged as a beta when you downloaded it.

Sony had a closed beta, said they wanted another beta, said one wouldn't happen. Then said a limited time demo was coming, then called it a beta only after you downloaded it.

Feel free to provide a press release calling it a beta at the time.

https://www.gtplanet.net/gt-sport-four-day-demo-now-live/

https://www.gtplanet.net/gran-turismo-sport-demo-october-9/

https://blog.eu.playstation.com/201...t-limited-time-demo-goes-live-on-9th-october/

It's a moot point however, I've been a Sony Beta tester for around a decade, during that time I've never seen a beta that was fully functional or that anyone would be foolish enough to take as fully representative of the finished product.

I didn't say press release, you did.



And what's the point of arguing the semantics of it? Everyone knows what he's talking about, quit picking hairs.

 

[Scaff]

I didn't say press release, you did.

Neither of which were from before the start of it, and simply further reinforce the disjointed communication from PD and Sony.

The fact remains that the official press release (which every gaming site used to put the story of the demo together) referred to it exclusively as a demo, as did the PS Store.

And what's the point of arguing the semantics of it? Everyone knows what he's talking about, quit picking hairs.

Nope, and don't attempt to tell members or staff how they should post.

 

[freedom1104]

People keep saying that as if it is a knock on GT Sport. PD had absolutely nothing to do with that. That is a decision SONY made when they went to the PS4. If you want to play Project Cars 2, Overwatch, Rainbow 6, Battlefield 1, Call of Duty, Nhl 17, Madden 17 etc etc etc, you have to have PSplus. Welcome to 2017.

Project cars 2 have a full blown single player career mode.

Battlefield 1 , call of duty, NHL17 and Madden 17 all had a complete single player story mode or career mode.

what does GTS has on single player? not even save or scapes.

#FACTS

I can enjoy 80% of all the game and feature you mentioned above without subscription to PS plus.

This is why PD had absolutely everything to do with this.

https://www.gtplanet.net/gt-sport-online-experience-around-15-total-game/

 

[JulesDennis]

People keep saying that as if it is a knock on GT Sport. PD had absolutely nothing to do with that. That is a decision SONY made when they went to the PS4. If you want to play Project Cars 2, Overwatch, Rainbow 6, Battlefield 1, Call of Duty, Nhl 17, Madden 17 etc etc etc, you have to have PSplus. Welcome to 2017.

Do I need PSplus in order to play Assetto Corsa?
No.
Do I need PSplus in order to play Pcars (1 or 2)?
No.
Do I need Psplus in order to play NHL,Madden,FIFA,2k NBA (or other sport titles)?
No.
Any title that has a "single player career" do not need PSplus in order to have access to that.I can Hotlap or race against AI without even having net connection in AC or Pcars.

 

[th3o]

@JulesDennis
But none of the games you mentioned offers the quality of online play GT Sport does.
I dont want to defend having to pay for PSPlus but you can not deny the fact that online racing in GTS is neatly streamlined, the code seems very good and there is the incentive of players to race clean. You can't say that about the likes of FM7 or PCars

 

[mokalovesoulmat]

Do I need PSplus in order to play Assetto Corsa?
No.
Do I need PSplus in order to play Pcars (1 or 2)?
No.
Do I need Psplus in order to play NHL,Madden,FIFA,2k NBA (or other sport titles)?
No.
Any title that has a "single player career" do not need PSplus in order to have access to that. I can Hotlap or race against AI without even having net connection in AC or Pcars.

People are lazy enough to get deep knowledge of a product, lol.

 

[PzR Slim]

@JulesDennis
But none of the games you mentioned offers the quality of online play GT Sport does.
I dont want to defend having to pay for PSPlus but you can not deny the fact that online racing in GTS is neatly streamlined, the code seems very good and there is the incentive of players to race clean. You can't say that about the likes of FM7 or PCars

I race online in PC2 on PC most nights and it's pretty straightforward to find a clean room. In fact a dirty room is the exception not the rule in my experience. Yes you get the odd idiot but if you have a decent host they get dealt with pretty quickly.

 

[rono_thomas]

But none of the games you mentioned offers the quality of online play GT Sport does.

Great quality online play are not unique to GTS, of the racers it maybe, but they are others that do it better.

This is not an excuse for its lacking single player offline experience.

 

[th3o]

@PzR Slim
i hear you, but driving online in "rooms" does not feel the same as driving under the FIA banner, competing in future for certain rewards, now already being rewarded credits and whatnot for racing, having the whole thing presented to you in a manner that makes you think its 'important' etc.
you dont get that in games where the online aspect is just another aspect next to the more or less full blown sp-career.

@rono_thomas
i find it interestig that no one accuses iRacing for not having a single player career.
why is everybody doing this with GTS? its not like they never said its focused on online racing?

 

[JulesDennis]

@JulesDennis
But none of the games you mentioned offers the quality of online play GT Sport does.
I dont want to defend having to pay for PSPlus but you can not deny the fact that online racing in GTS is neatly streamlined, the code seems very good and there is the incentive of players to race clean. You can't say that about the likes of FM7 or PCars

The only "fact" in this post is that you need PSplus to be able to play GTS.
I personally like organized community leagues that actually make online racing better than anything else.The only title that (some times) can be as good as that (online public lobbies-vs organized leagues)is iRacing after 10 years of updates and changes.

@PzR Slim
i hear you, but driving online in "rooms" does not feel the same as driving under the FIA banner, competing in future for certain rewards, now already being rewarded credits and whatnot for racing, having the whole thing presented to you in a manner that makes you think its 'important' etc.
you dont get that in games where the online aspect is just another aspect next to the more or less full blown sp-career.

So its all about the "looks".I agree.Its not about how it drives but its more about how it looks.From that point of view,yes it beats Pcars or Ac or Forza (Even though there are little in common between Forza and Pcars or AC -example-)

i find it interestig that no one accuses iRacing for not having a single player career.
why is everybody doing this with GTS?

I find it interesting the fact that you'll put GTS in the same sentence with iRacing.But from the e-sport point of view here is whats the difference:
iRacing is doing its thing the last 10 years (online only-monthy fee in order to have access-esports with real money as rewards-pro players-clear rating/penalty system-)
GTS is trying to copy that system.
If GTS had the physics,the wheel support,the track/car list and the generall organization of iRacing then it would be no complains from me.But in that case i dont know how the "casual" and pad users would feel about a sim that they wont be able to play -because its too...difficult and hardcore-.

its not like they never said its focused on online racing?

"Kazunori Yamauchi has stated the online portion of the game only accounts for roughly 15% of the game."
https://www.gtplanet.net/gt-sport-online-experience-around-15-total-game/

Its not like they never said this either.Some people actually believed that (what Kaz said).

 

[Imari]

@PzR Slim
i hear you, but driving online in "rooms" does not feel the same as driving under the FIA banner, competing in future for certain rewards, now already being rewarded credits and whatnot for racing, having the whole thing presented to you in a manner that makes you think its 'important' etc.
you dont get that in games where the online aspect is just another aspect next to the more or less full blown sp-career.

Are you actually trying to say that not having a single player makes the online better simply by not existing?

That's an....interesting...perspective.

@rono_thomas
i find it interestig that no one accuses iRacing for not having a single player career.
why is everybody doing this with GTS? its not like they never said its focused on online racing?

Actually, they used to. A lot. I'm not sure if it still goes on, but in the early days of iRacing it was totally a thing.

 

[rono_thomas]

Are you actually trying to say that not having a single player makes the online better simply by not existing?

That's an....interesting...perspective.



Actually, they used to. A lot. I'm not sure if it still goes on, but in the early days of iRacing it was totally a thing.

Something went wrong with the quote 👍

Edit: No it didn’t just didn’t get the alert.

 

[BallPtPenTheif]

the game is r

The only "fact" in this post is that you need PSplus to be able to play GTS.
I personally like organized community leagues that actually make online racing better than anything else.The only title that (some times) can be as good as that (online public lobbies-vs organized leagues)is iRacing after 10 years of updates and changes.

dude, everybody knows that iRacing is better. the question is, why, after spending all of that money would you then get a PS4 and GTsport?

 

[JulesDennis]

the game is r



dude, everybody knows that iRacing is better. the question is, why, after spending all of that money would you then get a PS4 and GTsport?

Are you asking me why I got GTS?Because I think its a fun game and I pretty much buy a lot of racing games.I did not get a PS4 for GTS btw.I have PS4 long before GTS was cancelled its first release.
But I did not write that iRacing is better.
My point is/was that nothing can beat a well-organized community league as far as online race is concerned.

 

[PzR Slim]

@PzR Slim
i hear you, but driving online in "rooms" does not feel the same as driving under the FIA banner, competing in future for certain rewards, now already being rewarded credits and whatnot for racing, having the whole thing presented to you in a manner that makes you think its 'important' etc.
you dont get that in games where the online aspect is just another aspect next to the more or less full blown sp-career.

If we are talking feel then PC2 feels much better largely down to the physics/handling model and the ffb. Add to that the myriad of other options you can set, practice, qauli, changeable weather and TOD, multi-class grids, etc and it's feels to me much more like a real race. To me the FIA branding in GTS is just a bit of fluff, not sure it really adds anything.