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gotcha.. undertstood
A month later, your opinion on GTSport?
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For me this is easy and was always going to happen, no matter what kaz, PD, Sony put out there.
Gran Turismo is a brand built around a certain game mechanic which included an expansive SP.
The brand changed its style without input from fans, without discussion, there was a bigger SP fanbase than MP that could be shown by the trophy stats. There was always going to be a lot of unhappy consumers.
I know its not a 7, but the brand title is Gran Turismo and its still attached to sport, and for many that’s a selling point.
(Disclaimer: 99% of my gaming is online)
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it does not because we dont know what you try to say.
1) do you say: its getting super cheap, so it shows that its a bad game.
or
2) look, its only 15€, so its ok it does not have that much content.
But car manufacturers also build different style of cars. You have the Mercedes star on an entry level A class as well as on an AMG GT R.
Why should game franchises not do the same? I mean, just because it says Gran Turismo, does not mean that they have some sort of obligation to deliver the exact same kind of game every time. Plus it was well communicated.
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GTS refocus is a bit more dramatic than just changing style I would think. For some it would be akin to providing a new style car without wheels.
The folk that used to enjoy Gran Turismo SP had many reasons to not play online, a favourite game has now become something they wont/cant/dont enjoy to play. This is going to upset a lot.
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I agree.They can create whatever they want.But if you look it without bias (from whatever point of view) the only main difference is that GTS is pretty much an online title.
Its not like they created a "hardcore" racing sim (they did not do that in the past either).
Not entirely true:
"Kazunori Yamauchi has stated the online portion of the game only accounts for roughly 15% of the game."
https://www.gtplanet.net/gt-sport-online-experience-around-15-total-game/
So communication seems to be a problem for PD and Kaz so your point is a little weak I have to say.
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Maybe he refers to 15% at the end of the game's lifecycle
Same as with 500 cars
So they are going to add the 75% "single player portion" of the game in the next few years?
That is your answer?That GTS is the most un-finished released game in PS4?
Or the real answer is what I already wrote:that communication was not something that PD did well (or does for that matter).
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Why did not anyone want to play Gt6 online? because it was bad without DR and SR. Now in GT Sport is online really enjoyable in my opinion.
(Sorry my bad English)
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A month later I have the 100 hours in the game, only one Sport win (boy did that feel good), a few poles and fastest laps. I spend most of my time in the online lobbies though.
I think I would get more wins if I switched on aids or drove in 3rd person view - but I play against myself with a wheel and love driving.
I do not understand all the fuss about single player mode, since online gaming existed I have not bothered with single player modes or campaigns in any multiplayer capable game, with the exception of GTA5. There is just no satisfaction whooping AI. For people wanting their single player ego boosts - there are custom races.
I think I would get more wins if I switched on aids or drove in 3rd person view - but I play against myself with a wheel and love driving.
I do not understand all the fuss about single player mode, since online gaming existed I have not bothered with single player modes or campaigns in any multiplayer capable game, with the exception of GTA5. There is just no satisfaction whooping AI. For people wanting their single player ego boosts - there are custom races.
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- Time constraints.
- Being able to pause.
- Poor internet connection.
- Wanting to win more often.
For as many of us online players there are as many offline players, more so when looking at GT6 trophy stats, your derogatory tone, “ego boosts” comes from your lack of understanding that is a shortfall on your part, and there we go again another “get over it” post.
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obvsly it was a tongue in cheek comment. actually i am pretty layed back about this. whatever the case, as i stated above, i am super happy with the game and enjoy it and really dont miss the singleplayer component at all. as long as they add some new tracks and cars its all cool for me
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Well it baffles me how a 25-30 hour SP content is termed as no SP campaign in GT Sport. Don't understand the logic. Unecessary hate thats it.
Its perfectly does the job of teaching you and challenge you at the same time. By no means its short.
How many players even completed past GT campaigns to full??
A racing game should provide good racing and it delivers there. Too much bitching.
Really is a case of people bringing it down just coz its GT.
It's £34 in the UK (Amazon) and was No.12 in this weeks charts (5th week). Only the big hitters and a couple of new release ahead of it.
https://www.chart-track.co.uk/index.jsp?c=p/software/uk/latest/index_test.jsp&ct=110015
Also received a German BIU award for over 100K sales in October (inline with GT6).
https://www.biu-online.de/blog/2017...sten-computer-und-videospiele-in-deutschland/
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i try to play most days when not travelling and overall enjoying the game.
After the sheer shock and terror of trying to take a corner in PCars2 it felt comforting to slip back into GT where to get round a track was relatively easy. I can;t say I have found it boring though as to get properly fast times is very challenging and even on Dragon Trail I have clocked hundreds of Gr3 laps (in variety of cars) and still 3 seconds off the top10 times. Still a challenge but with a good learning curve.
Took me a few weeks until i started the Sport element and although I enjoy it it does need work.
* More daily races needed (often they are at tracks I don't like or with cars/categories I don't like)
* tuning should be enabled
* The Manufacturers and regional races need to be cover wider timeframe. The times are difficult for me (based in Dubai) so would be better if they ran over a 24hr period. I have yet to join any of the championship events simply because the timing is inconvenient.
* The lobbies are quite unpredictable. Often it is just people messing around (wrong way round track, ramming etc) so I gave up on them.
* would like the ability to load other peoples ghosts/setups
It does feel like it needs updates to the online racing soon. I love the races I do manage to get to but the opportunity is too infrequent.
After the sheer shock and terror of trying to take a corner in PCars2 it felt comforting to slip back into GT where to get round a track was relatively easy. I can;t say I have found it boring though as to get properly fast times is very challenging and even on Dragon Trail I have clocked hundreds of Gr3 laps (in variety of cars) and still 3 seconds off the top10 times. Still a challenge but with a good learning curve.
Took me a few weeks until i started the Sport element and although I enjoy it it does need work.
* More daily races needed (often they are at tracks I don't like or with cars/categories I don't like)
* tuning should be enabled
* The Manufacturers and regional races need to be cover wider timeframe. The times are difficult for me (based in Dubai) so would be better if they ran over a 24hr period. I have yet to join any of the championship events simply because the timing is inconvenient.
* The lobbies are quite unpredictable. Often it is just people messing around (wrong way round track, ramming etc) so I gave up on them.
* would like the ability to load other peoples ghosts/setups
It does feel like it needs updates to the online racing soon. I love the races I do manage to get to but the opportunity is too infrequent.
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lol, guy states he plays single player to win more, then says it's not for an ego boost.
Right now I'm using the Missions and Challenges to trade times with friends. I've yet to go online as I'm now getting stuck into the livery creator. Five weeks into GT5 (the last GT I owned), I was well into the grind to raise enough credits for my next 1m car. The racing itself was a means to an end and far from enjoyable.
GT Sport has that pick up and play grip that all great games have. If PD do as promised, and furnish the game with plentiful DLC, it will unquestionably go down as the best GT yet.
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Lol I don’t play SP Im speaking from a point of view that folk do.
Its called empathy.
Read my posts above you will see my disclaimer.
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They absolutely should, variety of games is a positive for everyone.
There's kind of a difference in price between an A Class and an AMG GTR though. Console video games are almost all the exact same price.
Not really. For those of us that have been playing for a long time it's not nearly that long, and it's largely repeats of similar things that we've done 6 times before. A handful of races, time trials and obstacle courses does not a career make.
In the audience that you're addressing, I'd say quite a few. More than you're implying, anyway.
Not really. There are things that GTS does well, but there's just as many where it fails and unless you're a 100% dedicated online player it arguably doesn't provide particularly good value. 100% dedicated online player is unfortunately a bit of a niche, as seen by the low player base on things like iRacing.
Other people obviously wanted to get into it because Gran Turismo, but are disappointed when they find out that it's even more relentlessly single minded than advertised. It's still nice to drive if you like the Gran Turismo physics style, but it's really only got one trick and that's online.
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Still having lots of fun with it (almost) every day.
I'm ignoring the daily races now and only participate in the FIA races, try to do one race each day, two is simply not possible because of, well, life :-)
Did try a daily race due to lack of time a couple of days ago and was faced with bumper car racers during the entire race, despite all of the opponents were C-S drivers so decided not to race a single daily race ever again and just focus on the FIA country and brand championships. Nothing tops racing in those competitions, good sportmanship and opponents with qualifying times very close across the field: in other words very close but clean racing, addrenaline levels are allways high from start to finish.
Conclusion: With regards to having fun: THE BEST RACING GAME EVER! for me at least :-)
I'm ignoring the daily races now and only participate in the FIA races, try to do one race each day, two is simply not possible because of, well, life :-)
Did try a daily race due to lack of time a couple of days ago and was faced with bumper car racers during the entire race, despite all of the opponents were C-S drivers so decided not to race a single daily race ever again and just focus on the FIA country and brand championships. Nothing tops racing in those competitions, good sportmanship and opponents with qualifying times very close across the field: in other words very close but clean racing, addrenaline levels are allways high from start to finish.
Conclusion: With regards to having fun: THE BEST RACING GAME EVER! for me at least :-)
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yeh I know, I just thought it funny.
I get that people without internet access and without talking to other people, they may not have known there was no single player career campaign before they bought the game. But they have everything in the custom offline races that was in career campaigns, they just don't have the campaign structure so to speak.
I get that people without internet access and without talking to other people, they may not have known there was no single player career campaign before they bought the game. But they have everything in the custom offline races that was in career campaigns, they just don't have the campaign structure so to speak.
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lol, guy states offline players need an ego boost but says “boy that felt good” when winning a single Sport race.
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fair enough, but feeling proud of an achievement against other people isn't on the same par as racing against AI. If I was nursing an ego, I would have switched on aids by now, or deliberately nerfed my DR rating to race against slower drivers.
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What would be good, is the ability to race your own ghost.. ie the AI takes your ghost lap and turns it into a car to race against. I tried racing the AI to improve my overtaking for sport mode, its just not possible to improve against real people without racing real people.
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It all depends on the opponents, when you race well and are not taken out it's great, even battling for 8th, although clearly battles for 1st or even 3rd are better. However just one guy doing stupid stuff can start to ruin the fun pretty quickly.
Right now it's good for me, I just won my last race, quite well too. Next race I may get smashed off in the first corner and get bumped about all race and then I'll be sulking again.
Right now it's good for me, I just won my last race, quite well too. Next race I may get smashed off in the first corner and get bumped about all race and then I'll be sulking again.
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Well, not in Gran Turismo it's not. But in games with seriously challenging AI, it really can be. Just as much work and training and strategy and skill can go into pulling out the win either way, and both can be immensely satisfying.
I'm working on beating AI at 95 in pCARS2 at the moment and I totally feel like I earn it when I get a win. If anything more than most online games, as online there's often a real chance that you inherit wins simply because someone either makes a silly mistake or gets crashed out.
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Do you race Iracing or do you just do internet searches? I've looked for you out of curiosity and couldn't find any version of your user name there. They do use real names though and I could have missed it.
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