A-Spec 415PP Honda Civic Competition

[waddy2001]

That wasn't the trick in question. I was giving an example of how the TTs are more conducive to learning how to drive as opposed to just getting gold. Maybe that didn't come out. (Oh, while it doesn't give you an advantage, the jump is way fun!)

Excuse me, but getting air over that jump is in no way a "trick." It does not gain you any advantage by going all out over that jump. You should not be penalized for landing the wrong way on that jump. That is just another flaw in PD's penalty system. The red times (penalties) are for corner cutting, wallbanging, or other things that gain you an unfair advantage. Going over that jump does not gain you any type of advantage.

 

[GTP_CargoRatt]

Cargo rat, you will be surprised to hear this, but I completely agree with you. There is no reason why we should have to get red lapped just because our cars take off over that jump.

Differences aside, thanks neal. Appreciate the aggreement even tho we have had our differences in the past.

@waddy: Sorry, my misunderstanding then.

 

[waddy2001]

I took a R '08 fresh from the dealer, changed the oil, then added:
ECU tuning, mid-range turbo, sports exhaust, custom tranny, all drivetrain upgrades except LSD (didn't feel it was necessary on this track).
Standard intake, nothing except stock.
I added 126 ballast for a total weight of 1396 KG and finally set it to a -20 position. I tried others but that seemed to give the car some jump.
Engine is now at 89.5%, 230 HP and sits at 415PP. (You have to adjust ballast and power if you race a few times because the PP crawls up.

Tranny was set to default then I adjusted the final gear ratio to 6.0000 so that it reads 130 top speed at the top. Bottom still reads 149.

Suspension was set according to one of the previous users specs:
RH -14 -12
Springs 6 6
D.Ext 6 4
D. Comp. 3 4
ARB 5 5

Camber 2.4 0.0
Toe -0.16 -0.10

Brakes were 5 5

Driving aids:
TC 2
SRF On
AS Mild
ASM On

ABS 10 (one of my choices, you can ignore this to see how it goes.)

Control Sens. -2

If you smack the wall, you'll be fine, I think. You can pretty much zip through everything full speed but make sure you hug the walls on the right through the corners. On the second last right, don't let the car slide out to the left wall, keep it close and in line with the next corner. On the final long right, nibble a bit to the left as you go to stop the corner from really slowing you down but don't go really wide. It seems you are almost always passing someone here so judge where they will go so you don't hit them and slow down. I didn't try to draft on the straight but that might help. If you're passing someone on the first corner, they will go right and you can smack the wall and end up ahead of them by a bunch.

Good luck!

Thank you for you encouraging post. I'll be more than thankfull if you post your set up.

 

[wc420pro]

I took a R '08 fresh from the dealer, changed the oil, then added:
ECU tuning, mid-range turbo, sports exhaust, custom tranny, all drivetrain upgrades except LSD (didn't feel it was necessary on this track).
Standard intake, nothing except stock.
I added 126 ballast for a total weight of 1396 KG and finally set it to a -20 position. I tried others but that seemed to give the car some jump.
Engine is now at 89.5%, 230 HP and sits at 415PP. (You have to adjust ballast and power if you race a few times because the PP crawls up.

Tranny was set to default then I adjusted the final gear ratio to 6.0000 so that it reads 130 top speed at the top. Bottom still reads 149.

Suspension was set according to one of the previous users specs:
RH -14 -12
Springs 6 6
D.Ext 6 4
D. Comp. 3 4
ARB 5 5

Camber 2.4 0.0
Toe -0.16 -0.10

Brakes were 5 5

Driving aids:
TC 2
SRF On
AS Mild
ASM On

ABS 10 (one of my choices, you can ignore this to see how it goes.)

Control Sens. -2

If you smack the wall, you'll be fine, I think. You can pretty much zip through everything full speed but make sure you hug the walls on the right through the corners. On the second last right, don't let the car slide out to the left wall, keep it close and in line with the next corner. On the final long right, nibble a bit to the left as you go to stop the corner from really slowing you down but don't go really wide. It seems you are almost always passing someone here so judge where they will go so you don't hit them and slow down. I didn't try to draft on the straight but that might help. If you're passing someone on the first corner, they will go right and you can smack the wall and end up ahead of them by a bunch.

Good luck!

Thank you million times! I'll try it tonight, when I put my kids into bed :-).

 

[Dczip]

So in some good luck I managed to gold Tsukuba, Trial Mountain and Eifel. Getting close on Clubman (4th 5sec back), but Autumn Mini (5th) is just the ugly duckling.

Btw...I'm shocked at people saying they get 1:04's on clubman, yet alone the lone 1:02, making me wonder where I'm losing 2+ sec.

 

[D4LVY]

To all posters talking of putting ballast forward... I have nothing but thanks. Already had a setup quite similar some posted but was going neutral on weight distribution with my EK '97. Weight at -30 was just right for me, transformed the turn in, especially under braking, plus had way better traction exiting corners. I was struggling to catch the rabbits on ssr5 and Autumn Ring. After that one change I aced them both first attempt without having to resort to nasty driving aids. Top tip and thanks peeps.

 

[nealcropper]

To all posters talking of putting ballast forward... I have nothing but thanks. Already had a setup quite similar some posted but was going neutral on weight distribution with my EK '97. Weight at -30 was just right for me, transformed the turn in, especially under braking, plus had way better traction exiting corners. I was struggling to catch the rabbits on ssr5 and Autumn Ring. After that one change I aced them both first attempt without having to resort to nasty driving aids. Top tip and thanks peeps.

No problem ;-)

 

[dvdcastav]

hi there!

i found out this site when i was googling "gran turismo 5 drivetrain", and i'm glad i did it. there's plenty of input about the seasonal events here

and i actually registered to say, no matter how ridiculous it is, the "phone trick" in the clubman stage route 5 works pretty well... after like, 7 or 8 tries in that race, i only managed to get 2nd place. then i was deciding which step i should take, buy another type r '08, tune it to the max and lower pp and apply ballast and other tweeks, or try the "phone trick"...

i went for it, and i managed to ge 1st with almost 5 secs ahead.

Thank you guys!

 

[waddy2001]

I know some users can beat the AI without resorting to tricks but I'm not one of them, usually. Some of the seasonals are straightforward, others have rabbits. The big difference between these and the TTs is that they can tune or set the AI to whatever they want, as in the 'Ring Lambo one, but in the TTS, it's purely us against us. In those, the AI is just some REALLY good driver, no tricks allowed.
The other part of this is that in this seasonal event, you can test tuning much easier and more quickly than in most others. Buy a car, tune it a bit and in 5 minutes (or less), you'll know what works and what doesn't. Additionally, the cars are dirt cheap to buy so you can put one aside and move on if you overtune but lose speed, that kind of thing. I'm using this one to learn more about what speeds up lap times and what doesn't.
Oh, welcome to the forum. I'm new too and it's the best of the best.

hi there!

i found out this site when i was googling "gran turismo 5 drivetrain", and i'm glad i did it. there's plenty of input about the seasonal events here

and i actually registered to say, no matter how ridiculous it is, the "phone trick" in the clubman stage route 5 works pretty well... after like, 7 or 8 tries in that race, i only managed to get 2nd place. then i was deciding which step i should take, buy another type r '08, tune it to the max and lower pp and apply ballast and other tweeks, or try the "phone trick"...

i went for it, and i managed to ge 1st with almost 5 secs ahead.

Thank you guys!

 

[waddy2001]

Hats off to anyone who can get 1:04 on this one without the phone trick. If you can manage consistent 1:05s you might get it without the trick, maybe.
I'll look back on Autumn to see what worked for me there. I believe that with it and Tsubuka, I resorted to juggling top speed until I was just bouncing the needle at the end of the straight. I felt that I needed acceleration to get close to the rabbits. Now I might adjust final gear instead of top speed as that worked for me on the Clubman circuit.

So in some good luck I managed to gold Tsukuba, Trial Mountain and Eifel. Getting close on Clubman (4th 5sec back), but Autumn Mini (5th) is just the ugly duckling.

Btw...I'm shocked at people saying they get 1:04's on clubman, yet alone the lone 1:02, making me wonder where I'm losing 2+ sec.

 

[Dczip]

Ya, I can manage mid 1:06's on clubman, can't get much more out unless i retune for hrs.

btw what is this phone trick? (i probably read about it, just didn't remember it)

 

[Nexviator79]

Ya, I can manage mid 1:06's on clubman, can't get much more out unless i retune for hrs.

btw what is this phone trick? (i probably read about it, just didn't remember it)

Run flat out in the first curve (no brakes) Seems to gain 1.5 to 2 seconds per lap for some.

 

[ayrton1666]

08 civic with around 75kg ballast at the rear and ratios set to hit the red line just b4 braking for first turn,took 4 goes,had tried for ages in the old ek rm to no avail at ss5,no bother with the others.

 

[wc420pro]

I've just did it!!!! I am overwhelmed of joy!!! :-) Yeahhhh.
I used instructions given to me from waddy2001 on page 8. THANK YOU GAZILLION times!!! I have slightly modified 3rd and 4th gear (I needed them longer). I was doing "the phone trick" and on the last lap before the tunnel I over took leader, and beat him with 1.425 sec.
O boy how happy I am now!!! :-)

 

[luv2drive]

I managed to win all of these with an (almost) stock Type R '01. Only change was added ECU, Titanium Exhaust and 78Kg ballast at -31 for a 60/40 front weight bias. Also used a close ratio trans.

The only challenging course was SSR as others have mentioned. The "phone trick" (thanks for that!) helped a lot on this course.

I think I'll try with the '08 now and see how it compares.

 

[Sirhankysur]

08 civic with around 75kg ballast at the rear and ratios set to hit the red line just b4 braking for first turn,took 4 goes,had tried for ages in the old ek rm to no avail at ss5,no bother with the others.

I think you and i are the only people on this thread who put weight on the rear. I also used a 08 Civic.

 

[dvdcastav]

why would you put weight in the rear on a FF car?

about the phone trick, i actually tried to win the race without the trick, and it went like this: bought the type r '08, tuned it a little to match the pp limit. tried it that way, but could only manage to get 4th. then, i learned about the ballast and apllied it, something like 40kg at like 35 in the front. God, how happy was I to drive that car! i also learned to tune the tranny according with the track (the kart track makes good use of this, i realized).

after all this and like 10 tries at the clubman route 5, i only managed to get 2nd place. then tried the phone trick and voilá, got 1st with 5 secs ahead. i know i could get the 1st place, but one really needs to master the course, and try it time after time to get all those lap times good. i got tired of being .160 or 0.450 behind the 1st so I tried the trick and it worked great.

 

[Zippysalt]

Could someone please post a video of successful "phone trick." Every time I try, I lose time not gain any. Best I can pull at SS5 is high 1:06 to mid 1:07. Easily passed other 4 tracks though.
Great forum though, great tunes, best video game help on the web.

 

[wc420pro]

My opening lap was 1:07 mid. Other lap were around 1:04:900 up to 1:05:500. About "phone trick", where to succesfully hit the wall. I was hitting it at the end of that yellow and black painted part. Without braking, full throtle but with steer to right. When I hit the wall like that, speed drops to 114, and I am in 4th gear. And only by this I was gaining like 1.5 to 2 sec per sector time.

 

[Shoe67]

Well, I won the SSR5 race by 0.005sec. No phone trick, just straight up driving and suspension tuning. Took a while, but I managed to get it 👍 it is possible to win without cheating

 

[NCRthree]

Well, I won the SSR5 race by 0.005sec. No phone trick, just straight up driving and suspension tuning. Took a while, but I managed to get it 👍 it is possible to win without cheating

It's very possible. I did it last week w/o ABS in a 97 RM no tuning cockpit view. FF is my least favorite drivetrain for sure. Gotta be patient, smooth and aggressive on throttle. Kept coming in 2nd or 3rd but got a good run in a couple early laps to get the win. Only tapped one AI and no wall contact.

Edit: Tried it again and could get consistent wins with the RM stock settings @415. Threshold braking just before the 2nd white line after the blue sign on the right and slight trail braking into the turn. Hard to get a perfectly clean lap but a win is pretty easy with that car.

 

[StirlingMoose]

To everyone asking for advice about the phone trick. I know it's only a game and all that, and if you just want the gold and the prize car fair enough, but you should really be asking for help to do it without the phone trick. It's an anomaly and most events are not going to have a phone trick. CSR5 is a tough one but it's not that tough. I'm a fairly average driver and I managed it.

 

[powerstrokin06]

To everyone asking for advice about the phone trick. I know it's only a game and all that, and if you just want the gold and the prize car fair enough, but you should really be asking for help to do it without the phone trick. It's an anomaly and most events are not going to have a phone trick. CSR5 is a tough one but it's not that tough. I'm a fairly average driver and I managed it.

Well I've been playing this game since day 1 and have'nt heard a thing of this Phone Trick so what the hell is it? I did a search and could'nt find it?? Inquiring minds want to know

 

[Shoe67]

Well I've been playing this game since day 1 and have'nt heard a thing of this Phone Trick so what the hell is it? I did a search and could'nt find it?? Inquiring minds want to know

Using walls and cars as bumpers to avoid using brakes. Basically, totaling your car in every corner that requires braking by bouncing off a car or wall.

 

[Dczip]

Tried the phone thing....did more harm than good, so I canned it and went for precision. 1:06:20's is about the best I can squeeze out in an 08 at ~1250kg.

 

[Shoe67]

Tried the phone thing....did more harm than good, so I canned it and went for precision. 1:06:20's is about the best I can squeeze out in an 08 at ~1250kg.

Same, phone thing I couldn't get either. I am on ds3 though, which might make that harder. I managed a 1:14.721 clean, and averaged about 1:15.4-1:16

 

[Lewis_Hamilton_]

It's a little late, but here's a video of CSS 5 reverse done at 405pp with no aids and no ABS. With SRF on, ABS on and less patience with the AI, this could be done below 390pp I reckon.

If you use this tune and just up the power to make 415pp, and with SRF on, anyone struggling with this event may find this helpful. Try and watch the apex speeds in the video and how the tune tugs the car round a corner under acceleration.

 

[Dczip]

Finally I pass CSS5.

Now for the course that I dislike more then the Nurb. (Mini Ring & Eifel have no business being in seasonals)

 

[Conspicuus]

It's a little late, but here's a video of CSS 5 reverse done at 405pp with no aids and no ABS. With SRF on, ABS on and less patience with the AI, this could be done below 390pp I reckon.

If you use this tune and just up the power to make 415pp, and with SRF on, anyone struggling with this event may find this helpful. Try and watch the apex speeds in the video and how the tune tugs the car round a corner under acceleration.

Very easy with this tune. Did all my laps in 4.6ish without effort. (except the first) Thank you

 

[dapperdan56]

It's a little late, but here's a video of CSS 5 reverse done at 405pp with no aids and no ABS. With SRF on, ABS on and less patience with the AI, this could be done below 390pp I reckon.

If you use this tune and just up the power to make 415pp, and with SRF on, anyone struggling with this event may find this helpful. Try and watch the apex speeds in the video and how the tune tugs the car round a corner under acceleration.

Thank You for sharing this.
Finally got it without the "phone trick".
For me I think it was the transmission tuning that helped the most. I'll have to check it out with other suspension setups.
Thank You Again!!!!

I've gone on to win CSS5 with several other setups with your and transmission and with another trans. setting I was using (The Hill). Trans. tuning for this seasonal(and others) has been the very important for me in learning to drive better in this game. So again Thank you! I feel much better about this.
About the no abs thing is new to me. Did it 1st without it and with it in. What a different feel. Fun I must say. I'll have to practice more with it. Was it the brakes settings that did it? Maybe? Loved it!