A-spec Expert Level Historic Racing Car Challenge: Mount Panorama Motor Racing Circuit

[StirlingMoose]

Finally got the win in the Alfa. Had to change the oil and find an easy line-up though. I got close to beating the 2D a couple of times, with better times than this, but it was proving too tough. On lap two I got well and truly shafted by a Streamliner at the bottom of the dipper. He'd got himself sideways across the track and as I went onto the verge to go round him he set off and pinned me to the wall, giving me a penalty of course. Bloody Audi drivers think they own the road.

 

[ivnchn]

You can also use the audi auto union streamliner if you have 500k. Worked for me

 

[phineas777]

This is pretty tough trying to win against the 2J with the 330 P4. 2J was doing 21s and 22s prior to this run with the P4 in the 25s. Finally pulled out a decent run (for me) only to still get creamed by the 2J! Ba!!

Keep going......

👍

 

[CBH]

This is pretty tough trying to win against the 2J with the 330 P4. 2J was doing 21s and 22s prior to this run with the P4 in the 25s. Finally pulled out a decent run (for me) only to still get creamed by the 2J! Ba!!

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Keep going......

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@shaunm80 330 P4 '67 is very good tune against the 2Js 👍.

 

[phineas777]

@fordlaser777. Might give Shaun's and others posted here a try later. Want to try and beat them with my own 'tune' first....have built up that determination now. 👍

 

[kilesa4568]

How the hell are people getting races without the 2J in it? Every single time I retry, it's there to haunt me. I went as far as 10 retries on the trot and not only was it there each time, he often brought his brother along too!

🤬 this race and 🤬 the 2J. I'm taking my ball home and the 🤬 can 🤬 off.

 

[coryclifford]

11 retries

 

[DisabledRacer]

Took me about 15 attempts to win with 540 PP, Stratos Rally Car...... Seemed like every car in the field took a turn in wrecking me in those 15+ attempts! I'm sure it can go faster than my times.... I can only control it with 65 kg of weight in the nose of the car. Thankfully, the Auto Union wrecked on the last lap to give me the victory.

 

[kilesa4568]

11 retries

Har Har.

It's easy for me to win in the 2J but whenever I pass them using another car, it stops feeling like a race and turns into survival mode. It's had me rage quitting after too many punts into the gravel.

I'll stick with the nice and mild mannered dirty drivers in quick match. Way less stress.

 

[Corvetteowner]

Won it in a 600pp XJ13, beating a single 2J. It took a lot of attempts to win this one, quite a good challenge!

I know this sounds jacked up but if anybody gets tired of it like I did and wants just to get the gold I just put all the weight on my 330 Ferrari took all the downforce off,, put active stability management.. traction control 1 ..active steering strong ..LOL it's ridiculous but I passed him at 202 miles an hour approximately two and a half laps.. you don't have to get in a hurry just haul ass on the straights you'll catch on quick

 

[BenMillard]

Feels like the ramming penalties have been toned down. But the 2J literally drives THROUGH you at the apex of any corner when you are in front and start gapping it with another car.



The rabbits might have fast cars. But remember: they are terrible drivers and have terrible tunes.

 

[BenMillard]

Well after a few tries with this car and field combo, I finally got the win!

Now that was a good challenge!!!

Cheers

Would you share the tune for this Cobra Daytona Coupe '64, please? I only have a setup for the 15th Anniversary Edition which generally get a PP handicap. So they aren't as competitive for a given PP value.

I just did a 10:04.726 against a single 2J using the Ferrari 330 P4 '67. Fastest lap 1:55.509 for me. It was a clean race until I got up to the 2J. That's when I started touching walls in avoidance of its sloppy driving line and wildly varying pace.

We both ran wide onto the grass on lap 4 at the final chicane!

E. Piotrowski had the 2J in my race and had bags to pace to spare! It actually passed me back on Conrod Straight. I managed a banzai move into the very last turn. Sliding it to a near stop at the apex with the 2J just behind the rear bumper.

It was a motocross move but no contact and I exited on the standard line:

Spoiler

Has anyone got the 330 under 10 minutes yet? That's going to be my target now, win or not.

 

[Baron Blitz Red]

@BenMillard , here you go...

The fantastically gorgeous 1964 Shelby Cobra Daytona Coupe!

Suspension:
RH: 115/80
SR: 10.62/7.98
DC: 6/4
DE: 4/4
AB: 4/7
BB: 5/8

Transmission:
Reset to default
FG to 4.500
Max Speed to Min.
FG: 2.900

Drivetrain:
5/15/5

Power:
96.6%
Stage 3 Engine
Supercharger

Body:
DF: 350/600

Both Oil and Body Rigidity added!

This will get 600pp, 584hp, 1,043kg's, 50/50 weight dist., 566 ft-lbs torque.

With the triple threat of (2) 2J's and the Toyota 7, I'll admit it took me a couple of tries not to get hit (and given penalties) from the slower and sloppy back field cars... but this car will do low to mid 1:56's... great sound and performance!

I'm not sure of whom to credit for the tune, but there are a few changes to get it just right (for my style) for Bathurst.

Cheers

 

[davidt33]

@BenMillard , here you go...

The fantastically gorgeous 1964 Shelby Cobra Daytona Coupe!
Suspension:
RH: 115/80
SR: 10.62/7.98
DC: 6/4
DE: 4/4
AB: 4/7
BB: 5/8
Transmission:
Reset to default
FG to 4.500
Max Speed to Min.
FG: 2.900
Drivetrain:
5/15/5
Power:
96.6%
Stage 3 Engine
Supercharger
Body:
DF: 350/600
This will get 600pp, 584hp, 1,043kg's, 50/50 weight dist., 566 ft-lbs torque.
With the triple threat of (2) 2J's and the Toyota 7, I'll admit it took me a couple tries to not get hit (and penalties) from the slower and sloppy back field cars... but this car will do low to mid 1:56's... great sound and performance!

I'm not sure who to credit for the tune, but there are a few changes to get it just right (for my style) for Bathurst.

Cheers

Thanks Baron. Will give this a shot.

 

[kilesa4568]

2J literally drives THROUGH you

No lube either.

 

[davidt33]

@BenMillard , here you go...

The fantastically gorgeous 1964 Shelby Cobra Daytona Coupe!

Suspension:
RH: 115/80
SR: 10.62/7.98
DC: 6/4
DE: 4/4
AB: 4/7
BB: 5/8

Transmission:
Reset to default
FG to 4.500
Max Speed to Min.
FG: 2.900

Drivetrain:
5/15/5

Power:
96.6%
Stage 3 Engine
Supercharger

Body:
DF: 350/600

This will get 600pp, 584hp, 1,043kg's, 50/50 weight dist., 566 ft-lbs torque.

With the triple threat of (2) 2J's and the Toyota 7, I'll admit it took me a couple of tries not to get hit (and given penalties) from the slower and sloppy back field cars... but this car will do low to mid 1:56's... great sound and performance!

I'm not sure of whom to credit for the tune, but there are a few changes to get it just right (for my style) for Bathurst.

Cheers

What a handsome car in true eh Baron? Just tried it with your tune. One thing you forgot to include.--->"Add Oil".
Without adding oil it comes short of the 600PP.
First race I encountered I think the hardest difficulty. The line up with the two 2J brothers. Managed a 3rd in that one behind the 2J conspirators.
Decided I wanted to try one without the two 2Js. Exit and enter again bounced up the 2J and his cousin 2D in 1,2 but decided to go for it anyhow. Came 2nd in that one so didn't feel too bad.
Wanted to try one without any 2J at all so after a series of Exits/Re-enter bounced up the Toyota '70 and 2D, 1,2 position. Tried best but again only managed to come 2nd. Passed the 2D by a good distance in the last lap but just couldn't make sight of the Toyota '70.
Was good fun anyhow and was glad to use the car and tune so cheers.

 

[Baron Blitz Red]

What a handsome car in true eh Baron? Just tried it with your tune. One thing you forgot to include.--->"Add Oil".
Without adding oil it comes short of the 600PP.

After 2 1/2 years of GT6, adding both oil and body rigidity is just like breathing... you shouldn't have to think about it to actually do it.

Having said that, I will edit the post. Thanks, and I'm glad you liked the car... she's one of the best looking and sounding cars in the game!

Cheers

 

[StirlingMoose]

@MadMax's 513PP tune. 👍 It's a wild ride. I had a fairly disastrous lap 2, held up by the GT40's antics, but then the top four all had mishaps in the last couple of laps.

 

[DisabledRacer]

@MadMax's 513PP tune. 👍 It's a wild ride. I had a fairly disastrous lap 2, held up by the GT40's antics, but then the top four all had mishaps in the last couple of laps.

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Nice job. 👍 I had a few 2nd place finishes with it..... Because I got knocked off the track while leading. Got ticked off, swore for an hour and quit racing for the night.

 

[Retiree]

Finally after 3 days of being attacked by the computer and opponents, I got the Toyota and 2Js every time and I used the 2J, I kept the pressure on that Tojo until he lost it on top of the mountain trying to catch me on the last lap. Phew.

 

[UltimateLurker]

Figure I'd try the 7, since it comes up on me like I'm sitting still when I race against it. Turns out it's not that fast at all, more PD trickery, but with Praiano's tune it's surprisingly stable. I tweaked it a bit, and it was great fun to drive.

 

[MC5372]

To you and @BenMillard:
I was wondering if there are any real differences between this and the 15th Anniv version. I have that one and wanted to know if this tune is good on that, too. Thanks.

@BenMillard , here you go...

The fantastically gorgeous 1964 Shelby Cobra Daytona Coupe!

Suspension:
RH: 115/80
SR: 10.62/7.98
DC: 6/4
DE: 4/4
AB: 4/7
BB: 5/8

Transmission:
Reset to default
FG to 4.500
Max Speed to Min.
FG: 2.900

Drivetrain:
5/15/5

Power:
96.6%
Stage 3 Engine
Supercharger

Body:
DF: 350/600

Both Oil and Body Rigidity added!

This will get 600pp, 584hp, 1,043kg's, 50/50 weight dist., 566 ft-lbs torque.

With the triple threat of (2) 2J's and the Toyota 7, I'll admit it took me a couple of tries not to get hit (and given penalties) from the slower and sloppy back field cars... but this car will do low to mid 1:56's... great sound and performance!

I'm not sure of whom to credit for the tune, but there are a few changes to get it just right (for my style) for Bathurst.

Cheers

 

[BenMillard]

In generally, the 15th Anniversary Edition models have slightly improved performance but are given much more PP. So when you tune them to a fixed PP limit, they are not as fast as the normal cars.

The differences can include:

• stiffer chassis (nearly always);
• less drag;
• more power;
• more torque;
• smoother engine delivery;
• more revs;
• more downforce;
• less weight;
• lower centre of mass;
• different weight distribution;
• difference range of upgrades such as power parts;
• wider tyres;
• larger wheels;
• and premium quality models.

The stiffer chassis means a tune for a normal car usually won't work as well on the anniversary model. Sometimes they are so stiff they are almost undriveable, such as the Renault Mégane.

 

[wedjim]

In some cases the anniversary editions omit some tuning adjustments also.

 

[DisabledRacer]

Figure I'd try the 7, since it comes up on me like I'm sitting still when I race against it. Turns out it's not that fast at all, more PD trickery, but with Praiano's tune it's surprisingly stable. I tweaked it a bit, and it was great fun to drive.

Have you "tried" using the Toyota 7 to beat the AI Toyota 7? Damn near impossible, unless you are an alien! I've tried a few times.... The faster I go, the faster the AI Toyota 7 goes. I've even tried going slower the first lap, then faster, and I still can't catch the AI. BTW... The 540 PP, Stratos Rally Car has a higher top speed without the aid of a draft than the Toyota 7 for me, yet the AI Toyota 7 can do 0-195 in what seems like 5 seconds. 👎 What's worse... The cheating, AI Toyota 7's performance, or the pictured below, messed up race results?

 

[skeagracing]

Ferrari 330 P4. Cockpit race. Fast lap 1:56.883. Winning margin 06.311 over the 2J Chaparral. Pass for the win on lap 5 at The Dipper over the 2J Chaparral. Tune by me. Zero downforce. No penalties. P1 Chaparral 2J. P2 Chaparral. P3 Ferrari 330 P4. I made the driver of the 2J nervous thru the twister corners on the Mount and he lost control going into Dipper. MAX speed on the Concord Straight 208 MPH.

 

[davidt33]

Have you "tried" using the Toyota 7 to beat the AI Toyota 7? Damn near impossible, unless you are an alien! I've tried a few times.... The faster I go, the faster the AI Toyota 7 goes. I've even tried going slower the first lap, then faster, and I still can't catch the AI.

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I can vouch for this.

 

[TonyJZX]

Ben Millard said it, your 600pp Toyota 7 isnt in the same universe as the 710pp+ computer Toyota 7....

700pp plus is well into the GT1 LMP1 class prototype car getting into the silly Vision GT spaceship class.

600pp is sub LMP2 GTE, historic Le Mans class

 

[UltimateLurker]

Have you "tried" using the Toyota 7 to beat the AI Toyota 7? Damn near impossible, unless you are an alien!

I haven't tried it. I assumed it would be an ill-handling car, so I chose a slow field, but was pleasantly surprised. In practice I can do flat 2-minute laps with the car, but not during the race. I'm certainly no alien, so I'll probably leave the 7 vs 7 fight to someone else!

 

[coryclifford]

What?

Stock car with 200 kg ballast and power limiter at 58.9%

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