A-spec Expert Level Historic Racing Car Cup: Mid-Field Raceway

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I haven't tried it but the 2J is traditionally faster... the audi's nemesis is tight corners but midfield doesn't have those... it depends on your talent
 
DisabledRacer
The Cobra Daytona Coupe '64 got me a win... Although it wasn't against the strongest field.

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As a matter of interest, what was your PP with the Cobra Daytona when you entered the event???
I've tried reloading this race about 100 times and every single time, there's a Toyota 7 or a Chaparral 2D on the grid, or even both, which makes wining with the Cobra mission impossible :(
 
Draggon
Yep, I've done this about 20 times now. He slows down more often than not. The rabbit likes to wreck in turn 1 too, and seems particularly baffled going through traffic.

Here's the 2-J tune. I found it somewhere here and modified it to suit my driving style. Worth noting is that turbocharging will get you a loss of horsepower at 600pp, so I left it as is

Suspension
60/60
9.65/12.90
6/6
6/6
4/3
0.5/0.0
-.004/-.016

Brakes
0/4
Feel free to play around with this

Trans
Stock, just set the slider to 193mph

LSD
7/14/18

Power
No upgrades, set for 600pp

Body
49kg to 50%

Best of luck, works like a champ for me!
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Thank you very much. I hope to help you some day too. Very happy!! Again thank you. I did notice the loss of power with the turbo. I will give it my best and get back with you. I won with your tune. Thank you!!
 
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I've been having fun working my way up with various cars in this, had a great dice with the Shelby Cobra in my 250 GTO til the Shelby rammed me into the tunnel (glad the GTO is considered a race car for this event, horn still works though!). Shame it's restricted to race cars only, as there are a number of other cars like the regular Cobra that would be a blast. Also my modded '74 Countach would stand a good chance I think :)

Messing with the Auto Union now and I would also like to know if there are any tunes that counter the crazy oversteer issues (using a DS3 too), or are people using driving aids with it? I am having to be so careful on the corners and am only putting in laps of around 1'13 tops, which only places me about halfway through the field.
 
A lot of you asking about the Audi Auto Union and some set ups. I can post the set up I botched together but it's dangerous in the first tunnel, you have to apply the right amount of throttle to prevent it from snap oversteering half way through double apex turn. Other than that it would rotate quite nicely on the rest of the circuit.

Those that want to use it will have to wait until tomorrow though when I can get back to my PS3.
 
TexRex
Good to know a grid can be had less the 7 and the 2J. Whacking 6PP off of the 2D was difficult so I'm certainly not comfortable with a 63PP reduction. Any reason to believe the weaker competition stemmed from the weaker car choice?
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I have no idea how the computer decides which field we get. I tried entering a few cars with comfort tires and lowering their PP all the way down, but it seemed to make no difference in determining the AI field.

sid_chiclana
As a matter of interest, what was your PP with the Cobra Daytona when you entered the event???
I've tried reloading this race about 100 times and every single time, there's a Toyota 7 or a Chaparral 2D on the grid, or even both, which makes wining with the Cobra mission impossible :(
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I entered with 600 PP when using the Cobra. Guess I just got lucky in getting the easier field...


I have a good, hard challenge for some of you master tuners and drivers. Try and win with the Stratos Rally Car '77. It maxes out at 544 PP with my tune, (30 kg ballast added) but I'm pretty sure someone can run close to or slightly better than a 7:00 time.

NOTE: It took me about 30-40+ reloads to get the weaker field, so good luck in trying to get the weaker field!

Stratos Mid Field Standings.jpg
 
I have been getting some PM's asking for setups for the Ferrari and Challenger, here is a couple videos and then the setups.
It is a toss up as to which is more fun, the sliding and smoking of the challenger is addicting, lol.





Ferrari 330 P4

95/95
7.20/7.20
5/5
9/9
7/7
0/0
0/0
BB 5/5
LSD 7/13/8
DF 350/600
2.500 FG
217MPH
4.247
2.756
2.066
1.620
1.330
High RPM Turbo
91.8% power 598hp
108kg @ -31
1.5kg/hp


Dodge Challenger R/T (didn't change that much)

120/90
16.82/12.51
4/4
3/3
5/5
0/0
0/0
BB 5/5
LSD 9/13/6
DF 200/450
Transmission, just moved top speed to 205mph
Stage 2 tuning
Supercharger
95.1% power 704hp
 
The hell is up with this seasonal?

Ok, so with the XJ13 I managed a 1:05.8xx lap, 7:01 overall. I was progressing more slowly by then, so decided this would be a good time to purchase the Chapparals.

I can get this thing down to 1:03.8xx laps and 6:48 overall, but the lead rabbit is still 8s faster!

I have yet to do better than Bronze. This is insane.

EDIT: Ok, made it. Seems like you need to do consistent laps in the 1:03s to beat this. You literally cannot make a mistake.

Made 6:38.755 for +5.9s. Let's say I do 6:40 consistently, that's ~$72k/minute. Not a bad grind at all, but you have to be on the ball.
 
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Draggon
Yep, I've done this about 20 times now. He slows down more often than not. The rabbit likes to wreck in turn 1 too, and seems particularly baffled going through traffic.

Here's the 2-J tune. I found it somewhere here and modified it to suit my driving style. Worth noting is that turbocharging will get you a loss of horsepower at 600pp, so I left it as is

Suspension
60/60
9.65/12.90
6/6
6/6
4/3
0.5/0.0
-.004/-.016

Brakes
0/4
Feel free to play around with this

Trans
Stock, just set the slider to 193mph

LSD
7/14/18

Power
No upgrades, set for 600pp

Body
49kg to 50%

Best of luck, works like a champ for me!
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Thanks Draggon!!! 3 wins in a row!
 
Teflonicus
Wow! I'm going to have to have another go at this just to try automatic to see what it is like (I've been using manual from before I got my G27, and that was several years ago.).

My BL from the previous race with the Ferrari was 1:03:919. Although I greatly prefer the XJ13, I doubt that transfers into faster laps.

Well done! :eek:



Personally, I like the challenge. I would even prefer it to be more difficult. What I don't like is the fact that the challenge always comes in the same form: rolling start, at back, chase, chase rabbit, pass rabbit, be hit by rabbit, defend against rabbit ... .

I've told this story before, but I think it applies here. When I first started playing, I didn't gold every event. Bronze was the level of a pass in licences, so I could continue career mode, and then I made in-game money to buy cars and race--which is what I wanted from the game.

By the time it came to GT3 and GT4, I was possibly able to get gold, but I didn't have the time required to do so. So again, I raced and made in-game money to collect cars.

When GT5 came out, I had time and the inclination to get gold in every race, every event and so I did.

When I think back to GT4, I don't think the game was too difficult and I didn't think so at the time. I just accepted that I didn't have the time to finish everything in gold, but knew that others did.

And so, what I am saying is that I don't think the expert seasonals are too difficult at all. If anything, I believe that GT6 is much, much easier to complete in gold than GT5 was, and I think that the expert sections, among others, in GT6 should be much more challenging than they are.
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I like a challenge as well, but not when it is beyond my capability to win, or even come close. I will admit that they have been too easy for a long time, the recent challenge on Nurburgring was great, it took me many tries, buying a couple new cars with varying setups but eventually won. I totally agree with you about GT6 being easier than GT5, But I'm looking at the times on the screenshots, The slowest the Toy 7 has gone on me so far is 6:48, last race was 6:46, I can't even do 7, I've yet to even get a bronze on this one. But I'm going to give up trying to explain my position to players much better than me. Y'all have fun, I'm losing mine. I used to look forward to these. Now?.... :(
 
Are there really no other cars to use than the Toyota 7 and Chaparral 2J to ensure a win? Because I keep encountering the 2J, it's just impossible to chase it with my Shelby Cobra Daytona.

I ask this because I don't have either cars on my garage. :ouch:
 
WhoosierGirl
I have been getting some PM's asking for setups for the Ferrari and Challenger, here is a couple videos and then the setups.
It is a toss up as to which is more fun, the sliding and smoking of the challenger is addicting, lol.





Ferrari 330 P4

95/95
7.20/7.20
5/5
9/9
7/7
0/0
0/0
BB 5/5
LSD 7/13/8
DF 350/600
2.500 FG
217MPH
4.247
2.756
2.066
1.620
1.330
High RPM Turbo
91.8% power 598hp
108kg @ -31
1.5kg/hp


Dodge Challenger R/T (didn't change that much)

120/90
16.82/12.51
4/4
3/3
5/5
0/0
0/0
BB 5/5
LSD 9/13/6
DF 200/450
Transmission, just moved top speed to 205mph
Stage 2 tuning
Supercharger
95.1% power 704hp
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Yes! Gteat tune, thank you! Gold first try with the Ferrari!
 
=drifting24/7=
Are there really no other cars to use than the Toyota 7 and Chaparral 2J to ensure a win? Because I keep encountering the 2J, it's just impossible to chase it with my Shelby Cobra Daytona.

I ask this because I don't have either cars on my garage. :ouch:
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The top-half of the line-up in this event can do it if you have the skill to do it, but only the 2J can guarantee a win otherwise.

It's not that bad. Win this one 10 times (which should be about 1h30 of work) and you've paid for it with profit on top.
 
=drifting24/7=
Are there really no other cars to use than the Toyota 7 and Chaparral 2J to ensure a win? Because I keep encountering the 2J, it's just impossible to chase it with my Shelby Cobra Daytona.

I ask this because I don't have either cars on my garage. :ouch:
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I have won this event with the following cars with both the 2J and the Toyota 7 in the lineup. Also, no aids apart from ABS 1.

1) 2J
2) Toyota 7
3) Jag XJ13 '66
4) Challenger R/T Race Car '70
5) Ferrari P330 P4 '67
6) Camaro Z28 Race Car '69
7) Ford Mark IV Race Car '67

So yes, there are more than just those two cars you mentioned that are fully capable of winning.
 
Got my initial gold with a 2J. I was only up against the Auto Union, so won by a large margin.

Then tried the Alfa Giulia TZ2.. Managed only 6th.

3rd race, GT40 Race car. Won over the Toyota 7 by couple of seconds.

And finally the 4th race with the Cobra Daytona against the Toyota 7. What a race this was! I was one second behind the rabbit at the end of lap 4, but made the mistake of gently bumping his rear, so he rocketed far ahead. It took the rest of the race to catch him again and we made a couple of nice overakes in the process. I was passing slower cars on the other side and the Toyota from the other, would have made a nice video.. Then finally I managed to pass him in the very last corner and defended until the end. FUN! :D

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=drifting24/7=
Are there really no other cars to use than the Toyota 7 and Chaparral 2J to ensure a win? Because I keep encountering the 2J, it's just impossible to chase it with my Shelby Cobra Daytona.

I ask this because I don't have either cars on my garage. :ouch:
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I have been grinding my Ferrari P330 P4 with success. Used someone else's tune as a base when I first got it and then tinkered with it to fit my style. Easier to me with that than the 7...haven't tried the 2J.
 
bewildebeast
I have been grinding my Ferrari P330 P4 with success. Used someone else's tune as a base when I first got it and then tinkered with it to fit my style. Easier to me with that than the 7...haven't tried the 2J.
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330 P4 is too expensive (for an understatement). I don't have the money for that.

Tandem21
The top-half of the line-up in this event can do it if you have the skill to do it, but only the 2J can guarantee a win otherwise.

It's not that bad. Win this one 10 times (which should be about 1h30 of work) and you've paid for it with profit on top.
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I actually AM able to get the 2J right now (I have enough money thanks to the previous set of Seasonal Events), but I'm still wondering if it's really worth it. I was seriously considering this option.

GTP_CargoRatt
I have won this event with the following cars with both the 2J and the Toyota 7 in the lineup. Also, no aids apart from ABS 1.

1) 2J
2) Toyota 7
3) Jag XJ13 '66
4) Challenger R/T Race Car '70
5) Ferrari P330 P4 '67
6) Camaro Z28 Race Car '69
7) Ford Mark IV Race Car '67

So yes, there are more than just those two cars you mentioned that are fully capable of winning.
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1) been thinking really hard about this
2) this one too
3) nah, too expensive. Don't have the money for that
4) I don't know, it's a Challenger. AFAIK their handling isn't that good.
5) too expensive.
6) hmmmmm... HMMMMMMMMMM... 💡
7) also too expensive.
 

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