A-spec Expert Level Historic Racing Car Cup: Mid-Field Raceway

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Teflonicus
Because I know I'll never get another chance to say this to you, and I know that you'll immediately go faster whenever you feel like another attempt, I'm going to say "haha!" now. Oh, right ... you don't normally drive manual. Crap :(
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Run this with AT this time round to see how it differs from my manual drive. ;) I will have to practice more manual racing because I know it can be faster.

First go was a good run but the 2J crashed at T1 on lap 2, and he waited for a large gap in the field before rejoining in 9th and only managed to recover one position, also the 7 had two minor grass excursions at T1 on the 5th and 6th lap but those occurred after I had already got in front in the 4th lap. BL=1:03.3xx

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But because of the rabbits messy race I decided to go again hoping they would both have a relatively error free run... BL=1:03.7xx

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:D
 
I can't win it in an XJ13, in fact im losing time to the leaders (my best lap was a 1.10)
Yeah, I am terrible but I won all the other seasonals easily (Celica, RUF RGT) with cars with next to no tuning.
(I am learning to race without line/traction control)
 
Don't know what the AI drivers drink before the race, but I bet it's something stronger than lemonade... I can't believe sober pilots would play bumper cars with priceless oldtimers.
 
Getting closer but still not fast enough, gotta watch that slower traffic. BTW, how are some of you able to run the Toyota 7? Even detuned I can't get mine to 600PP.

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The most stupid seasonal I've ever come across :(
I'd wish PD would do away with all this rabbit chasing nonsense and finally, introduce grids and lights for the start.
Anyway... rant asides, The Jaguar XJ13 with Praiano's tune is probably your best friend if you want this event to have some sort of fun. You'll catch up the rabbit as you start your last lap and from there. al hell will break loose :) Good luck!
 
WJHMH
Getting closer but still not fast enough, gotta watch that slower traffic. BTW, how are some of you able to run the Toyota 7? Even detuned I can't get mine to 600PP.

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200kg of ballast and ~58% power limiter will get you in the vicinity of 600pp. My car started out stock and no oil change. Thats how I got my Toyota to 600pp. Hope that helps.
 
skeagracing
Good to know about the rabbit. Thank you!!
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Yep, I've done this about 20 times now. He slows down more often than not. The rabbit likes to wreck in turn 1 too, and seems particularly baffled going through traffic.

Here's the 2-J tune. I found it somewhere here and modified it to suit my driving style. Worth noting is that turbocharging will get you a loss of horsepower at 600pp, so I left it as is

Suspension
60/60
9.65/12.90
6/6
6/6
4/3
0.5/0.0
-.004/-.016

Brakes
0/4
Feel free to play around with this

Trans
Stock, just set the slider to 193mph

LSD
7/14/18

Power
No upgrades, set for 600pp

Body
49kg to 50%

Best of luck, works like a champ for me!
 
Finally golded the thing, running 1:04, 1:05s with a 1:07 first lap. Touching the outside curb on turn 1 is death so getting that part right is key, then the hairpin. Every race had the Toyota 7 and 2J as rabbits. After awhile tweaked the tranny a bit, went to 186 mph, 1.562, 1.118, .885, 3.9 ratios and had a little more bottom end coming out of the slow corners. Winning lap actually passed the 7 on lap 5, had a good dice on lap 6 then blocked him on the home stretch for the win. Give the thumb a rest and good night!
 
Draggon
Yep, I've done this about 20 times now. He slows down more often than not. The rabbit likes to wreck in turn 1 too, and seems particularly baffled going through traffic.

Here's the 2-J tune. I found it somewhere here and modified it to suit my driving style. Worth noting is that turbocharging will get you a loss of horsepower at 600pp, so I left it as is

Suspension
60/60
9.65/12.90
6/6
6/6
4/3
0.5/0.0
-.004/-.016

Brakes
0/4
Feel free to play around with this

Trans
Stock, just set the slider to 193mph

LSD
7/14/18

Power
No upgrades, set for 600pp

Body
49kg to 50%

Best of luck, works like a champ for me!
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Your tune worked out great! Got gold twice with it. Before I used your tune, I kept getting third place (my 2J was stock) but not anymore!
 
First I tried a Toyota 7, added 100kg, took out power, badly outdone on track. :grumpy:

Next up was the '63 z06 Corvette C2, LOL, what a joke, no joy.:boggled:

Then I tried a '69 Camaro Z28 and no way it could keep up.:crazy:

So bought Chapparral 2d - no joy, best I got was 4th with some mild tuning.:banghead:

So bought 2J, lowered, increased spring rates, compression & rebound damping, and roll bars, lowered top speed to 178 or so to shorten the gearing. Can usually catchup the rabbit Toyota 7 by lap 4. :cool:

I'm really bad at driving in general in this game, so if I'm beating the rabbit consistently by 7-12sec, ANYBODY can win with the 2J. And if you have to buy it, you only have to win 8 races to pay for it.

Anyone know if the Shelby 427 S/C qualifies for this race?
 
Draggon
Yep, I've done this about 20 times now. He slows down more often than not. The rabbit likes to wreck in turn 1 too, and seems particularly baffled going through traffic.

Here's the 2-J tune. I found it somewhere here and modified it to suit my driving style. Worth noting is that turbocharging will get you a loss of horsepower at 600pp, so I left it as is

Suspension
60/60
9.65/12.90
6/6
6/6
4/3
0.5/0.0
-.004/-.016

Brakes
0/4
Feel free to play around with this

Trans
Stock, just set the slider to 193mph

LSD
7/14/18

Power
No upgrades, set for 600pp

Body
49kg to 50%

Best of luck, works like a champ for me!
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It's Praiano's tune, detuned to 600 PP (miss you Magician):

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/thre...bull-x2014-junior.291084/page-17#post-9109593
http://praianogt6tunes.blogspot.com.br/2013/12/chaparral-2j-special-chriss-tune-70.html

BB: try 7/10
 
Yes, Magician is the word. It got me 2 seconds off my best effort at Red Bull, and looks like I didn't change anything. Oops :boggled: I'll go back and give it another go with bb 7/10. Thanks for finding that!
 
This one took me a few tries. First with a hastily tuned Jaguar I didn't even come within 10 sec of the leading 2j. Went and got my 2j.

Could have beat it first, second or third try with the 2j but I was obsessed with crashing that :censored:ing mother 🤬 🤬 Toyota 7. I swear the AI was the most belligerent I've ever seen. I caught him at end of lap 3 to mid lap 4 each time. Unfortunately he forgets that he's 2-4 seconds a lap slower after you pass him and tails you like a shadow. I got punted off the track straight up QUICK MATCH style the first time I caught him, first race with 2j. It was on. I wouldn't rest til I saw him flopping around in the weeds. Like I said took 3 races to crash him satisfyingly. The last race where I just passed him and ran, he appeared to crash at turn 1 on lap 5 and 6 :confused::confused:

I don't like these "challenges."
 
First of all let me say I appreciate both your help and your encouragement, I like being in a community that didn't mock me for not beating it on my 1st try. :) And to your question no I haven't tried the 2j yet, I just bought one. But that wasn't my point. My point was the recent trend on making the Expert level unbeatable for the many who could previously win, the last one I spent every spare minute on it and only got a silver, and now this one is even more difficult. The recent one on Nurburgring was perfect, not unbeatable but still quite difficult. I know they say Expert level but it has gotten ridiculous. As I said before, this is the only thing I have left on GT6 please don't take it from me too. Just a for instance I will occasionally do a Super Lap, my first try is usually a bronze and ranked 110,000+ but I can end up with a near gold or occasional gold and a 23,000 to 25,000+ rank so I know a lot of people would agree. I'm not saying make it where everyone can win just not only the top 10% Make these very difficult rabbit chases a new category.
 
nowcontrol
Run this with AT this time round to see how it differs from my manual drive. ;) I will have to practice more manual racing because I know it can be faster.

First go was a good run but the 2J crashed at T1 on lap 2, and he waited for a large gap in the field before rejoining in 9th and only managed to recover one position, also the 7 had two minor grass excursions at T1 on the 5th and 6th lap but those occurred after I had already got in front in the 4th lap. BL=1:03.3xx

But because of the rabbits messy race I decided to go again hoping they would both have a relatively error free run... BL=1:03.7xx

:D
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Wow! I'm going to have to have another go at this just to try automatic to see what it is like (I've been using manual from before I got my G27, and that was several years ago.).

My BL from the previous race with the Ferrari was 1:03:919. Although I greatly prefer the XJ13, I doubt that transfers into faster laps.

Well done! :eek:

LadyHAHRacer
First of all let me say I appreciate both your help and your encouragement, I like being in a community that didn't mock me for not beating it on my 1st try. :) And to your question no I haven't tried the 2j yet, I just bought one. But that wasn't my point. My point was the recent trend on making the Expert level unbeatable for the many who could previously win, the last one I spent every spare minute on it and only got a silver, and now this one is even more difficult. The recent one on Nurburgring was perfect, not unbeatable but still quite difficult. I know they say Expert level but it has gotten ridiculous. As I said before, this is the only thing I have left on GT6 please don't take it from me too. Just a for instance I will occasionally do a Super Lap, my first try is usually a bronze and ranked 110,000+ but I can end up with a near gold or occasional gold and a 23,000 to 25,000+ rank so I know a lot of people would agree. I'm not saying make it where everyone can win just not only the top 10% Make these very difficult rabbit chases a new category.
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Personally, I like the challenge. I would even prefer it to be more difficult. What I don't like is the fact that the challenge always comes in the same form: rolling start, at back, chase, chase rabbit, pass rabbit, be hit by rabbit, defend against rabbit ... .

I've told this story before, but I think it applies here. When I first started playing, I didn't gold every event. Bronze was the level of a pass in licences, so I could continue career mode, and then I made in-game money to buy cars and race--which is what I wanted from the game.

By the time it came to GT3 and GT4, I was possibly able to get gold, but I didn't have the time required to do so. So again, I raced and made in-game money to collect cars.

When GT5 came out, I had time and the inclination to get gold in every race, every event and so I did.

When I think back to GT4, I don't think the game was too difficult and I didn't think so at the time. I just accepted that I didn't have the time to finish everything in gold, but knew that others did.

And so, what I am saying is that I don't think the expert seasonals are too difficult at all. If anything, I believe that GT6 is much, much easier to complete in gold than GT5 was, and I think that the expert sections, among others, in GT6 should be much more challenging than they are.
 
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DisabledRacer
The Dodge Challenger R/T Race Car '70 can win against a weaker field, and can probably win against the 2J with a better tune and better driver than myself.

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Good to know a grid can be had less the 7 and the 2J. Whacking 6PP off of the 2D was difficult so I'm certainly not comfortable with a 63PP reduction. Any reason to believe the weaker competition stemmed from the weaker car choice?

Edit: Not sure where the wrecks are coming from. In watching replays, the 7s and 2Js have had pristine laps save for one incident when the 2nd place car in a 2Jx2 grid didn't move far enough over when attempting to lap a poor Alfa, and all that resulted was the 2J losing--and the Alfa gaining--a couple tenths.
 
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it does
but the 2J can beat a field that contains a 2D and Auto Union
the R/T is a b**** around Monaco it took me three tries to bead two 2D's

Tuning a 2J
Add 200kg of weight
Take the power down until you get to 600PP
set top speed to 300
 
you do have to spend millions mate
id reccomend a 2J unless you are VERY talented in which case use the dodge. But you have to be very talented to get away with the dodge and against a soft field
 
Challenger seems more likely than the Audi. Honestly, I'm amazed the Audi performs as well as it does in the hands of the AI--is that RS/SRF I smell? :lol:
 
So i wanted to use this one to grind the hell out of it.
Bought me a ferrari 330 yesterday and want to get the 20mill back.
yesterday i got the 2J and the Toyota 7 as leaders, those bastards do not like it
when i overtoke them, from the 7 races i lost 3, they just pushed me off track in lapp 6...:mad:

Today however, i only get the 2J and the 2D as rabbits, let the grinding begin..:cool:

ps. i use the 2J to grind...
 
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