About the car list...
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- QLD
I'm digging this one back up. I've said the same in previous posts, from recent comments and interviews it looks like this position is wrong. I've just started reading the board and this has probably been discussed in other threads but it looks like GTS is GT7 from Kaz's recent comments. He has said this isn't a spin off but a new direction for the series. That means the concerns about what is missing are very valid from those people who have them and it looks like the 140 cars this game starts with are it and you will have to buy more when they come. I guess that will be disappointing for a lot of people and I can understand why but for me it doesn't really make a difference for this type of game. I don't have a fraction of that many cars on iRacing and I actually only use a handful.
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- SpacedustDaddy
With the confirmation of all Nissans being used for GT Academy, might we see the iDX Nismo? I understand normally, the Leaf, then 370Z, GT-R, GT-R GT3. Surely we'll see the 370Z, GT-R(2017 Nismo or 2017 "base"), GT-R GT3 and LMP2 throughout the trials. I remember we had to use the 200SX. That was an old car.
As for new(er) cars, maybe then, they'll throw in the Leaf race car, iDX Nismo, GT500 GT-R, Altima Supercar as bonuses.
As for new(er) cars, maybe then, they'll throw in the Leaf race car, iDX Nismo, GT500 GT-R, Altima Supercar as bonuses.
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- dacc10
There will probably be something like this: 370Z, 370Z Gr.4 race car (something like that tuned mazda mx5 we have seen already), GT-R 2017 and last GT-R GT3.
It wouldn't be a good idea for them to add a ton of Nissans, since the car count is fairly limited, and that would ruin the diversity of cars from other brands.
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http://www.digitalspy.com/gaming/ps...ort-release-date-cars-tracks-gameplay-events/
But I'm sure it is an error.
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- SpacedustDaddy
It'll be interesting to see the final tally of OFFICIAL GT3 cars in Gr3.
Forza 6: (5)
Audi R8 GT3
Bentley Continental GT3
McLaren 12C GT3
Mercedes SLS GT3
911 GT3
PCars: (9)
AM Vantage GT3
Audi R8 LMS Ultra GT3
Z4 GT3
Bentley GT3
Cadillac ATS -V.R GT3
Ginetta G55 GT3
12C GT3
AMG GT3
SLS GT3
Asseto Corsa(PC list until console list is revealed): (7)
Z4 GT3
Gallardo GT3
Huracan GT3
McLaren 650 GT3
AMG GT3
SLS GT3
GT-R GT3
GTS: (8)
Vantage GT3
R8 LMS GT3
Z4 GT3
458 GT3
650S GT3
SLS GT3
GT-R GT3
R.S. 01 GT3
GTS is looking pretty good for those that want a GT3 fix. The GTE, LM and Fantasy cars from each game, respectively ups the car count. However, authenticity adds to the immersion. A few more OFFICIAL cars like the 911, Bentley, Lamborghini, M6, AMG GT3, 488 GT3, get added to each of these games that don't have them and it will be a win for us all.
Forza 6: (5)
Audi R8 GT3
Bentley Continental GT3
McLaren 12C GT3
Mercedes SLS GT3
911 GT3
PCars: (9)
AM Vantage GT3
Audi R8 LMS Ultra GT3
Z4 GT3
Bentley GT3
Cadillac ATS -V.R GT3
Ginetta G55 GT3
12C GT3
AMG GT3
SLS GT3
Asseto Corsa(PC list until console list is revealed): (7)
Z4 GT3
Gallardo GT3
Huracan GT3
McLaren 650 GT3
AMG GT3
SLS GT3
GT-R GT3
GTS: (8)
Vantage GT3
R8 LMS GT3
Z4 GT3
458 GT3
650S GT3
SLS GT3
GT-R GT3
R.S. 01 GT3
GTS is looking pretty good for those that want a GT3 fix. The GTE, LM and Fantasy cars from each game, respectively ups the car count. However, authenticity adds to the immersion. A few more OFFICIAL cars like the 911, Bentley, Lamborghini, M6, AMG GT3, 488 GT3, get added to each of these games that don't have them and it will be a win for us all.
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- riblo72
I agree... It will be hard to see a lot of cars from each brand in each group...
GTS was advertised as "drive for a nation or drive for a brand"... I guess this means that to race for a brand we should have at least a car of that brand in each group, reducing this way the number of cars per brand in each group...
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- dacc10
Yeah, and it wouldn't even be fair if we had a brand with 2 or 3 cars in a category to choose from, and other brands just 1. People would be biased towards choosing which brand offered more variety.
The only category where we might see multiple cars per class, is in N-class. Brands will still have more than one road car, and both Alfa Romeo and Ford are examples of that (with, as of now, 2 cars each).
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I'm not saying there will be multiple cars from one brand. More of adding the brands in real GT3 that are currently missing in GTS.
If the case is to be made to represent your chosen manufacturer in all Gr., PD will need to add those cars.
How can I represent my chosen marque in Gr.3 when there is no Mazda or Lexus or Bugatti GT3/Gr.3 available? Let me not even go into trying to represent MINI in Gr.1&Gr.3(though the MINI VGT does have a healthy dose of power w/awd).
PD have upgraded to the new R8 and 650S. The C7.R and for the first time, the 458 GT3. If an M6 GT3 is added(we did get the M3 GT2 in our GT3 class for GT6), that would be two BMWs in the same class, again. The new AMG GT could be a possibility.
If the case is to be made to represent your chosen manufacturer in all Gr., PD will need to add those cars.
How can I represent my chosen marque in Gr.3 when there is no Mazda or Lexus or Bugatti GT3/Gr.3 available? Let me not even go into trying to represent MINI in Gr.1&Gr.3(though the MINI VGT does have a healthy dose of power w/awd).
PD have upgraded to the new R8 and 650S. The C7.R and for the first time, the 458 GT3. If an M6 GT3 is added(we did get the M3 GT2 in our GT3 class for GT6), that would be two BMWs in the same class, again. The new AMG GT could be a possibility.
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- dacc10
Yes, they will do the best they can to fill each brand in as much classes as possible. But I doubt they will go through the trouble of adding 2 cars for each brand for said class, being BMW an exception. Would it be nice to have both 458 and 488 GT3 cars? Yes, but there's no need for that, since the resources in moddeling a second Ferrari GT3 car could be spent in another car that adds something new to the game.
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- Tassie_tiger
If the case is to be made to represent your chosen manufacturer in all Gr.'s, there's no need to stick to 'real' GT3 cars though, is there?
Don't forget they already have 18 different manufacturers represented in the VGT programme.
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It makes me question this Manufacturers Cup thing too.
Is it across all Groups, and if so will that limit the manufacturers available to enter?
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- dacc10
I'd guess for the Manufacturers cup the only limitation will be the number of cars for each brand. It wouldn't be fair to have a grid with 10 Nissans and then 2 cars for the rest of the brands.
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- Tassie_tiger
I was thinking more along the lines of either limiting the classes the Manufacturers Cup uses, or limiting the available brands to only those that cover all 4 classes.
Saying that, I can't see the N class being involved as the cars are too varied performance wise.
So that means every manufacturer (29 so far) will have a car in Gr.4, Gr.3, and Gr.1.
Or the Cup will only be held over 2 of those 3 classes, or perhaps even only ever using 1 of those classes.
All we've seen so far is a one-off random selection race using Gr.3 cars with a 16 car grid.
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It doesn't work like that. I can't remember now where it was explained but it was said that it works like this:
- Everyone chooses their manufacturer
- Those that choose a manufacturer will race all of the others that chose the same one until the best driver is determined for each. The best Nissan driver, best Renault driver etc
- Only then will the different manufacturers face each other with the best representative of each.
The only part not explained is how it works for each group. I would guess that whichever manufacturer you choose you'll be limited to the manufacturer cup for those which they have a representing car. I mean it's not dissimilar to real life, not every manufacturer has a car in every real life class.
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- Tassie_tiger
True.
But that would indicate multiple Cups wouldn't it?
A Gr.4 Cup, Gr.3 Cup, etc.
Therefore multiple winners at the FIA trophy night.
At the end of the day, the Final (I assume) will be a 16 car grid, therefore 16 manufacturers. (or is it 20?)
But there will be semi-finals etc. to determine that final event.
What if you end up being the best Alpine driver and a final is held in Gr.3 where Alpine has no car?
At this stage my money is on a limited class of cars for the Manufacturers Cup where every brand is represented.
Or PD will need to BoP cars to ensure every brand is represented in more than 1 class.
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- dacc10
Oh, ok. I thought manufacturers cup would be something like what happens in F1 and WRC.
In that case, they will be just like one-make races at first.
Yeah, I would guess that the Group races will be held separately, specially due to the lack of representative cars from all brands in all groups.
@Tassie_tiger Sorry for the confusion.
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Of course not. My OP was in bold about OFFICIAL GT3 listing.
I don't expect someone who loves or is best in Gr.B, to be left out to dry when it comes to the Manufacture's Cup. But, what about the player that loves Mazda and can't participate in Gr.B because there is no mod for the ND MX-5?
Guess we'll find out closer to release date.
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Yes, I saw your 'bold' post.
But I thought you were saying they will need to include more 'real' GT3 cars to cover the class.
I simply suggested VGT's could do the job.
Sorry, I must have misunderstood what you were trying to say.
But I thought you were saying they will need to include more 'real' GT3 cars to cover the class.
I simply suggested VGT's could do the job.
Sorry, I must have misunderstood what you were trying to say.
True.
But that would indicate multiple Cups wouldn't it?
A Gr.4 Cup, Gr.3 Cup, etc.
Therefore multiple winners at the FIA trophy night.
At the end of the day, the Final (I assume) will be a 16 car grid, therefore 16 manufacturers. (or is it 20?)
But there will be semi-finals etc. to determine that final event.
What if you end up being the best Alpine driver and a final is held in Gr.3 where Alpine has no car?
At this stage my money is on a limited class of cars for the Manufacturers Cup where every brand is represented.
Or PD will need to BoP cars to ensure every brand is represented in more than 1 class.
Well it could be multiple winners, sure, but as with many sports the biggest winner will be the best driver in the top class, which is Gr.1 in this case. I dunno. Plus you have to take into account their idea that anyone can take part and win, suggesting there will even be different 'leagues' within each class.
Anyway I found the source:
http://uk.ign.com/articles/2016/05/20/gran-turismo-sport-hopes-esport-focus-will-keep-it-on-track
I really can't see every manufacturer having one car in each Group. I mean for one example, where would the Gr.1 Ferrari come from? They have nothing on the level of LMP except the very old 333 SP, or even older stuff, which seems extremely unlikely, and no VGT. I can't see Ferrari letting them tart up the LaFerrari to LMP1 type specs and we've seen no example of this so far, only Gr.3.
Clearly there are still a lot of unknowns here. All we know is the basic premise that IGN has reported.
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Yeh.
It seems unlikely every manufacturer will fill a spot in every class.
Time will tell how's it all run.
Anyway, here's a shot from Japan's unveiling.
It seems unlikely every manufacturer will fill a spot in every class.
Time will tell how's it all run.
Anyway, here's a shot from Japan's unveiling.
