about the japanese demo

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kensei
go back to page one of this thread and read the first 5 or so pages , you see what we are talking about. This is NOT the BMW demo.
Whew I finaly read the entire thread. Lots of great videos and excellent sound. Even better than Prologue. I want Nürburgring but I dont want to DL the game from the internet. Too afraid of spyware, addaware, and viruses.
 
I have a major request and I hope someone fulfills it. I would love to see an example of the aerodynamics of drafting in the demo. I want to see how the cars get unsable, please someone post a vid of it :)
 
cobragt
What about this situation: you are driving on the track and one wheel gets in the grass, will you spin out?
Not neccessarily, it depends on the situation you're in and the measures you take. If the car is unstable already you will spin out. But if the car is stable, you can still get back on the track if you don't panic. You have to try to get in gently rolling back onto the tarmac, you mustn't brake or accelerate. It's pretty tricky most of the times though, I'd say you will lose it in 75% of the critical situations where you get on the grass, unless the wall pushes you back on the track.

Cheers,
the Interceptor
 
cobragt
I have a major request and I hope someone fulfills it. I would love to see an example of the aerodynamics of drafting in the demo. I want to see how the cars get unsable, please someone post a vid of it :)
cobra u seem like a hardcore GT fan by the time u spend on all the message boards, surely one would think u have the demo :dunce:
 
Is there any way to get this demo onto a cd-r yet?

Also i have a pstwo (with a 2 year replacement plan from bestbuy) so i don't want to take it apart or anything to void the warrenty and stuff.
I do have game shark...
but how would i boot this game if i got it onto a cd-r or dvd-r, would i need to get one of the swap magic discs or something?
 
LOL I got an email saying: The access to your website http://members.lycos.co.uk/gt4files/ was closed due to the following reason: File storage . I don't know why the MR2 in-car link doesn't work, but the replay one still works. If anyone still wants to download it, connect to the ftp to get it while it's still there ;)

ftp.members.lycos.co.uk
name: gt4files
pw: upl0ad
 
Kaniyodrift
cobra u seem like a hardcore GT fan by the time u spend on all the message boards, surely one would think u have the demo :dunce:
pffft, I dont have the damn equipment to get all that good. My ps2 isn't modded and I dont have a hdd. All I got is prolouge :(
 
There is lan mode on the demo? I am mostly interested for now to see the timelimit removal, but anyways, in a months time and a bit more I will have the Japanese version
 
Spent a bit more time with the GT-R on "the ring". I never spent much time with the JGTC cars in GT3, I used them and like them, but never considered them my favorites. Of them i liked the NSX first then the GT-R. In Gt4p the Takata NSX was my favorite car but this Falken GT-R is far far better, refined game physics aside. This car rocks!

The more I drive it and the ring - the more I can't wait to get a RUF CTR "yellowbird" with Traction Control off (and the car tuned to my tastes) and recreate Stefan "sideways Stefan" Rosier's (Ruf's development driver) 1987 blasts around the ring from the "Faszination" video. Who needs fancy Nike "driving boots" when you can wear white socks and penny loafers.

I can't wait to hear the RUFS!!!!! If the GT-R sounds this good!

I also can't wait to get some of the open wheel P1 cars out there, along with some of the BMW/merc racers. Ohhhh, an Elise 190...mmmmm!

I like PD's subtle homage to the "fazination" video in the logo for the Nurburgring track. Very nice.

Speaking of that video, I am watching the two little lo-res clips I have of it and watching Stefan react to the road and what the car is doing and I can honestly say it is the same stuff we are doing in the game. Like how the car becomes very unstable on the first "straight", the bumps going into that corner after and how they unsettle the car, etc etc. How the off camber corners want to buck the car wide. How the surface changes unsettle the car. It is all in the game. This isn't just some bland CGI depection of the circuit (like Cote D'Azur or Laguna are in Gt3), this is as real as they can make it, done to the bumps, the surfaces, the shadows, the dirt on the circuit (did you notice the corners where there is kitty little on one of both sides that the car looses grip?). There are things in there that most people won't even get or care about. Evertime I play it I find more subtle things. It really is amazing.

The more I play this demo the more I learn about the track and car and the very subtle refinements to the physics engine. PD really has out done themselves and I expect the final version to be even better than this demo.
 
Soman
There is lan mode on the demo? I am mostly interested for now to see the timelimit removal, but anyways, in a months time and a bit more I will have the Japanese version

When you look at the files there's a DNAS image in there, so maybe it's fully in there but PD have disabled it from the main menu.
 
cobragt
I have a major request and I hope someone fulfills it. I would love to see an example of the aerodynamics of drafting in the demo. I want to see how the cars get unsable, please someone post a vid of it :)
I imagine that would be a hard thing to make a video of...

btw, the "new" replay controls people kept mentioning (shoulder button cameras, etc.) were all in Prologue.
 
kensei
Spent a bit more time with the GT-R on "the ring". I never spent much time with the JGTC cars in GT3, I used them and like them, but never considered them my favorites. Of them i liked the NSX first then the GT-R. In Gt4p the Takata NSX was my favorite car but this Falken GT-R is far far better, refined game physics aside. This car rocks!

The more I drive it and the ring - the more I can't wait to get a RUF CTR "yellowbird" with Traction Control off (and the car tuned to my tastes) and recreate Stefan "sideways Stefan" Rosier's (Ruf's development driver) 1987 blasts around the ring from the "Faszination" video. Who needs fancy Nike "driving boots" when you can wear white socks and penny loafers.

I can't wait to hear the RUFS!!!!! If the GT-R sounds this good!

I also can't wait to get some of the open wheel P1 cars out there, along with some of the BMW/merc racers. Ohhhh, an Elise 190...mmmmm!

I like PD's subtle homage to the "fazination" video in the logo for the Nurburgring track. Very nice.

Speaking of that video, I am watching the two little lo-res clips I have of it and watching Stefan react to the road and what the car is doing and I can honestly say it is the same stuff we are doing in the game. Like how the car becomes very unstable on the first "straight", the bumps going into that corner after and how they unsettle the car, etc etc. How the off camber corners want to buck the car wide. How the surface changes unsettle the car. It is all in the game. This isn't just some bland CGI depection of the circuit (like Cote D'Azur or Laguna are in Gt3), this is as real as they can make it, done to the bumps, the surfaces, the shadows, the dirt on the circuit (did you notice the corners where there is kitty little on one of both sides that the car looses grip?). There are things in there that most people won't even get or care about. Evertime I play it I find more subtle things. It really is amazing.

The more I play this demo the more I learn about the track and car and the very subtle refinements to the physics engine. PD really has out done themselves and I expect the final version to be even better than this demo.

You making me drool man! Stop it! So how's the driving with the GTR, have you got the hang of it were you can drive it without hitting anything? I can't wait to get a lmp car on the track myself. I'm very excited about the inclusion of the R8 and Speed8. Just hope pd adds more LM cars.
 
cobragt
You making me drool man! Stop it! So how's the driving with the GTR, have you got the hang of it were you can drive it without hitting anything?

Not hitting things isn't hard. Going fast and not loosing the car into a retaining wall can be.

I consider myself very good at GT3, I used to do well in OLR when I did it, top 10 or so.

The more I play this demo though the more I learn and need to adjust my driving style to the new physics. Alot of the stuff you could get away with in GT3 you can't here.

Even Trial Mtn, a circuit I know very well, is all brand new. I'm curious to try an arcade GT-R (or stock SIM model) at trial mtn in GT3 when I get home from Thanksgiving this weekend and compare times.
 
I apologize for not reading the entire thread, however, I have a question.
Is this demo available on eBay like the Toyota and BMW demos were? If not, then may I ask how those of you obtained your copy of this most recent demo? I have tried searching for it on SuprNova.org, but have come up with nothing :(
 
Majarvis
I apologize for not reading the entire thread, however, I have a question.
Is this demo available on eBay like the Toyota and BMW demos were? If not, then may I ask how those of you obtained your copy of this most recent demo? I have tried searching for it on SuprNova.org, but have come up with nothing :(

You really do need to read the thread. People don't like repeating themselves, and the "where to get it" question has already been answered, several times.
 
kensei
I found driving up to the Opel Astra and sitting right off one of his rear quarter panels, but not touching, usually sent him into the grass. It seemd to unsettle his car greatly.
This seems strange to me :scared:
You are behind (= in his slipstream). He gets unsettled ... And you : you stayed on the road with unaffected aerodynamics ??
 
kensei
The more I drive it and the ring - the more I can't wait to get a RUF CTR "yellowbird" with Traction Control off (and the car tuned to my tastes) and recreate Stefan "sideways Stefan" Rosier's (Ruf's development driver) 1987 blasts around the ring from the "Faszination" video. Who needs fancy Nike "driving boots" when you can wear white socks and penny loafers.

I just watched those vids. I think it's the same ones.. it doesn't have the "Faszination" name, but it's two laps of a guy in a yellow Ruf (I'm assuming it's a Ruf) around the 'Ring. The link to the site said it was the Faszination vid, anyway. And this guy is certifiable, I swear... Nucking Futz. The first time I watched him purposefully break the rear loose to drift around a corner, I just thought to myself "he's gonna die, he's gonna die..." There really ought to be a disclaimer at the beginning.. "Professional driver.. do not attempt these maneuvers yourself" (except in a video game.. hehe). Watching him drive, I can understand how so many people kill themselves on the 'Ring every year. Trying to do what he does, but without his skill and finesse, and wind up going head-first into a wall at 150kph.

The vids I watched are here:

http://www.green-flag.com/pages/Nurburgring.php

I did notice that the starting point in those vids was at almost the exact same place that GT4 has it. I've heard people complain about that, that the "true" starting grid is actually at the end of the back straight, but I guess PD had some precedent.. they didn't just randomly pick the starting location (my guess is that's where the pits are, and GT's starting point has traditionally been right next to the pits).

Now where the ****'s the American demo, dammit!?!? Gamestop, OPM, somebody put this damn thing out for us poor saps without the equipment to play this one!
 
Many people react to this video like you just did. The "Oh my god, he is going to die" gasp. Stefan Rosier is a master behind the wheel. That video shows him in all his glory. The guy has such a natural feel for the car it is insane!

I recommmend everyone watching these videos.

I know RUF is planning on releasing the full video, with extras, on DVD within the next year.

Speaking of little details at the 'Ring. On the starting grid, look to the left (in front of the BMW logo tower) and you will see the complete "modern" Nurburgring F1 course in the background. In fact if you back up a little bit from your starting spot there is an opening in the wall and I just wish I could drive through it and drive on the new nurburgring too.

Though if i had to choose I'd pick the full Nordschleife anyday. The modern nurburgring is rather bland.
 
Hi, thanks for al the reports and video's guys 👍 Really sounds interesting.

I was wondering if the rear end of the GT-R wants to break out(and if you have to countersteer) when you accelerate too hard and your rear wheels start spinning at the start of the race. :)
 
Pak
Hi, thanks for al the reports and video's guys 👍 Really sounds interesting.

I was wondering if the rear end of the GT-R wants to break out(and if you have to countersteer) when you accelerate too hard and your rear wheels start spinning at the start of the race. :)

You can't turn the traction control off in the demo so this doesn't happen. However if you brake too hard going over say 60mph the back end lets go and countersteering like a champ is the other thing that can save it. Though the faster you are going the less likely you will be able to save it.
 
cobragt
I'm loving how gt4 is shaping up! Looks like we will have to be very careful on the tracks. How are the graphics in the demo?

On par with GT4p, though things look less perfect and shiny.

The grass at the nurburgring, especially in the replays, seems to vibrate more and some of the edges look a bit rough. But again it is just a demo.

Like I said earlier in the thread. Trial Mtn. doesn't look "finished" and George V is on par with NYC in GT4p, though the lighting effects are better.
 
kensei
On par with GT4p, though things look less perfect and shiny.

The grass at the nurburgring, especially in the replays, seems to vibrate more and some of the edges look a bit rough. But again it is just a demo.

Like I said earlier in the thread. Trial Mtn. doesn't look "finished" and George V is on par with NYC in GT4p, though the lighting effects are better.
what about the aliasing? Has it been toned down compared to gt4p?
 

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