Aliens

[Michael88]

I hope this has not been posted already.



Not sure what to think of it. He seems to be a credible person but I can't say I know a whole lot about him.

 

[TenEightyOne]

Not sure what to think of it. He seems to be a credible person but I can't say I know a whole lot about him.

Well, he's dead for starters.

 

[Dotini]

So... what is it that they found? All I can get from the article is they found "something..." and they don't know what can cause it so it's "probably aliens". Why not "must be God"?

A portion of the 234 stars that are sources of the pulsed ETI-like signal. Note that all the stars are in the narrow spectral range F2 to K1, very similar to our own sun. Credit: Ermanno F. Borra and Eric Trottier This graph shows the …more

We all want there to be aliens. Green ones, pink ones, brown ones, Greys. Or maybe Vulcans, Klingons, even a being of pure energy. Any type will do.

The two astronomers used data from the Sloan Digital Sky Survey, and analyzed the spectra of 2.5 million stars. Of all those stars, they found 234 stars that are producing a puzzling signal. That's only a tiny percentage. And, they say, these signals "have exactly the shape of an ETI signal" that was predicted in a previous study by Borra.

Read more at: http://phys.org/news/2016-10-stars-strange-aliens-contact.html#jCp

 

[BobK]

A portion of the 234 stars that are sources of the pulsed ETI-like signal. Note that all the stars are in the narrow spectral range F2 to K1, very similar to our own sun. Credit: Ermanno F. Borra and Eric Trottier This graph shows the …more

We all want there to be aliens. Green ones, pink ones, brown ones, Greys. Or maybe Vulcans, Klingons, even a being of pure energy. Any type will do.

The two astronomers used data from the Sloan Digital Sky Survey, and analyzed the spectra of 2.5 million stars. Of all those stars, they found 234 stars that are producing a puzzling signal. That's only a tiny percentage. And, they say, these signals "have exactly the shape of an ETI signal" that was predicted in a previous study by Borra.

Read more at: http://phys.org/news/2016-10-stars-strange-aliens-contact.html#jCp

To finish your uncited quote from the article:

We all want there to be aliens. Green ones, pink ones, brown ones, Greys. Or maybe Vulcans, Klingons, even a being of pure energy. Any type will do.

That's why whenever a mysterious signal or energetic fluctuation arrives from somewhere in the cosmos and hits one of our many telescopes, headlines erupt across the media: "Have We Finally Detected An Alien Signal?" or "Have Astronomers Discovered An Alien Megastructure?" But science-minded people know that we're probably getting ahead of ourselves.

I don't know, I'm not persuaded by that article, and near as I can figure neither was the article's author.

He mentions the Breakthrough Listen Initiative, saying:

The Breakthrough team don't seem that excited about Borra's findings. They've already poured cold water on it, trotting out the old axiom that "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence" in a statement on Borra's paper. They also give Borra's findings a score of 0 to 1 on the Rio Scale. The Rio Scale is something used by the international SETI community to rank detections of phenomena that could indicate advanced life beyond Earth. A rating of 0 to 1 means its insignificant.

 

[Dotini]

@BobK
All very true. But it represents a newsworthy development in the scientific quest to find aliens. It aliens are out there - and most think there must - it would be cool to discover it. The Sloan Digital Sky survey, the work of Borra and Trottier, and subsequent peer review and confirmation from other observatories will all be steps to that end. You should not be persuaded at this stage, but you should be interested and encouraged.

If Earth is indeed being transfixed by 234 laser beams, it might seem thinkable that the collective signal carrying capacity might amount to something pretty impressive.

 

[Dotini]

For the record:

http://mysteriousuniverse.org/2016/10/new-wikileaks-emails-discuss-fastwalker-ufos/

New Wikileaks Emails Discuss “Fastwalker” UFOs

In the latest Wikileaks UFO news, a recently released email implies the U.S. government’s knowledge of so-called “Fastwalker” UFOs. “Fastwalker” is a term used by NORAD and branches of armed forces to describe unidentified aerial phenomena moving and/or changing directions at high speed far beyond what current aerospace technology is capable of.

So-called “Fastwalker” UFOs are often spotted in ISS live feeds.

The March 6, 2015 email concerning Fastwalkers was written by Bob Fish, a NASA historian and Apollo Curator for the USS Hornet Museum, and sent to John Podesta, Chairman of the 2016 Hillary Clinton presidential campaign and former adviser to Presidents Bill Clinton and Barack Obama.

John Podesta, the man at the center of the WikiLeaks UFO releases.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

UFO sightings recently in Geneva, Vienna and Graz

http://www.inquisitr.com/3658372/uf...clare-sighting-proof-that-aliens-exist-video/

 

[PeterJB]

Why are UFO sighting videos always really crap image quality? Is there not ever a smartphone or decent video camera on hand?

 

[Dan]

Why are UFO sighting videos always really crap image quality? Is there not ever a smartphone or decent video camera on hand?

"Oh my god! This is a once-in-a-lifetime chance to witness a possible extraterrestrial visitor! Better point my phone's garbage camera at the ground and never get the object in clear view for more than half a second!"

- UFO witness, probably.

 

[Dotini]

Why are UFO sighting videos always really crap image quality? Is there not ever a smartphone or decent video camera on hand?

There are literally thousands of UFO photographs, and I don't know how many. Over 50 years of study and personal sightings has given me the distinct impression that all genuine UFO photos are fuzzy (because that's what they look like up close and professionally photographed) and all clear and distinct photos showing a solid object are hoaxes or other prosaics. There are almost zero documented sightings that I cannot explain this way.

 

[mistersafeway]

all genuine UFO photos are fuzzy (because that's what they look like up close and professionally photographed)

If you choose evidence based on its non-falsifiability then it isn't, regardless of how true it is, actual evidence.

 

[Dotini]

Brief video of 10 recent and potentially perplexing sightings.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

Why are UFO sighting videos always really crap image quality? Is there not ever a smartphone or decent video camera on hand?

You try taking a video or pictures with your smart phone at night, they're not exactly set up for that sort of thing. But since it's the quickest thing on hand...

And really regular cameras that record at night have something to help illuminate. Someone with camera experience would probably be best telling you what actually helps catch images with precision at night.

 

[TenEightyOne]

Someone with camera experience would probably be best telling you what actually helps catch images with precision at night.

Something expensive

 

[Dotini]

With video linked, pictures show "cloud" associated with UFO lights.

http://weekinweird.com/2016/11/03/l...en-ufo-incredible-footage-guadalajara-mexico/

Lightning Reveals Hidden UFO in Incredible Footage from Guadalajara, Mexico
By Greg Newkirk on 11/03/2016@nuekerk

Mexico has always been home to some some strange aerial sightings, but one piece of footage from Guadalajara is one of the most compelling pieces of UFO evidence to ever come from south of the border. This shaky, handheld footage doesn’t just show mysterious balls of light floating in the sky. Thanks to a fortuitous lightning strike, the entire craft is illuminated for a brief moment, giving us a rare glimpse at the unidentified flying objects hovering above us.

The stunning footage was captured in 2012, and continues to impress both amateur skywatchers and serious ufologists alike thanks to its split-second look at a massive craft in the Mexican sky. Normally, it might be easy to pass off the strange orbs as a collection of street lamps in a distant parking lot, but a view of the craft blows that argument out of the water.


Take a closer look at the illuminated frames below:

 

[Dotini]

For the amusement of members, here is an extensive site which wanders off into many areas of research and speculation regarding the above photos, now identified as the Black Knight.
http://mysteryoftheinquity.wordpress.com/2012/07/25/the-black-knight-satellite-2/

Respectfully,
Steve

Back in the 50's when the satellite era was just beginning, some people saw a satellite orbiting Earth in odd and changing orbits that could not be attributed to any Earthly agency such as Russia. The question has never been solved. Lights (and more rarely solid-appearing objects) moving about the sky continue to be reported, and the mystery continues.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Knight_satellite

http://mysteriousuniverse.org/2015/02/black-knight-satellite-interest-mysteriously-increasing/

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/aliens.119024/page-36#post-7417850

Here's the photo from STS88, actually a thermal blanket lost from the airlock during EVA.

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Some people said they saw Black Knight... but then they were selling a sci-fi book on the subject.

It may be true that "the technology to put satellites into space" didn't exist until the late 50s but we'd been sending rockets up there since the early 1940s, possibly earlier. What's to say there wasn't significant debris?

ISS/Soyuz films Black Knight up very close. What is it?

 

[TenEightyOne]

ISS/Soyuz films Black Knight up very close. What is it?

It's still the thermal blanket, surely?

 

[Michael88]

Why are UFO sighting videos always really crap image quality? Is there not ever a smartphone or decent video camera on hand?

Night photography and making good videos in near darkness is pretty damn hard with standard equipment, even today.

I do lots of night and astro photography so I know a thing or two about the challenges of making good night footage.

Distant tiny fast moving dimly-lit objects in the night is pretty much the hardest situation you can have for a photographer or camera man. To make good footage you need to be walking around with a good camera-lens combination with a setup pre-set for this very situation. Nobody is doing that.

Thing is, you need a very good sensor with great ISO (light sensitivity) and a good lens that either has a very large objective lens to gather a ton of light or a wide angle lens that captures light from a very wide area. Next up is aperture, in this situation you'd need a small aperture setting to make sharp pictures or clear videos of small objects in the distance, the problem is the smaller the aperture setting the less light goes through the lens to the sensor.
Not so much of a problem if you can have an exposure time of several seconds, a huge problem when taking snapshots of moving objects. The effect the aperture setting has is pretty damn dramatic and light gathering decreases squared with the setting. And forget zooming in low light and night situations, zooming decreases the amount of light the lens can gather quite dramatically (Zooming decreases the area of light the lens captures), the amount of usable zoom is very small at night, even with top notch equipment - if you want to make good pictures and videos.

Smartphones have tiny lenses and a narrow field of view, with that setup you need a long exposure time to gather enough light, which of course results in blurred pictures if you hold it in your shaky hands, let alone trying to capture moving objects in the distance.
If you make a video with that suboptimal equipment its going to be very dark

So in a nutshell, you have to be walking around with pretty specific equipment and settings to make good UFO pics and videos.

 

[TenEightyOne]

So in a nutshell, you have to be walking around with pretty specific equipment and settings to make good UFO pics and videos.

It's a shame really, aliens brought us all that wonderful technology over the last 10,000 years and we still can't take a good picture of them.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

It's a shame really, aliens brought us all that wonderful technology over the last 10,000 years and we still can't take a good picture of them.

Hey now we're not all the fringe of this belief where we sit down after a long days work and binge watch Ancient Aliens. Be easy on that small group of Alien believers...they'll throw tin foil at you.

 

[TheCracker]

It's a shame really, aliens brought us all that wonderful technology over the last 10,000 years and we still can't take a good picture of them.

And you think that's a coincidence?

 

[Michael88]

It's a shame really, aliens brought us all that wonderful technology over the last 10,000 years and we still can't take a good picture of them.

I bet it cracks them up big time.

 

[Dotini]

Stromatolites found on Mars.

 

[Dotini]

More on the Hessdalen lights.

 

[Castrol96]

I actually witnessed several UFO's passing by during live stream, they were these white orb things travelling at extreme speed, even one stopped in thin air and warped? The astronaut seem to attempt covering one with his hand.

 

[Dotini]

An exceptionally well documented encounter with an Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon (UAP) by the Chilean Navy. With 10 minute video.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...ased-from-chilean_us_586d37bce4b014e7c72ee56b

COURTESY CEFAA
The video depicts two connected white circular lights or hot spots, giving off much heat (left). This image was part of an analysis by astrophysicist Luis Barrera. “Envoltura” means “envelope.”

A UFO flying away from a plume in this frame from the 2014 Chile helicopter video.CEFAA

“This has been one of the most important cases in my career as director of CEFAA because our Committee was at its best,” General Ricardo Bermúdez, former CEFAA director, told Kean. “The CEFAA is well regarded partly because there is full participation from the scientists of the academic world, the armed forces through their representatives, and the aeronautic personnel from the DGAC, including its Director. I am extremely pleased as well with the conclusion reached which is logical and unpretentious… the great majority of committee members agreed to call the subject in question a UAP (Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon) due to the number of highly researched reasons that it was unanimously agreed could not explain it.”

The public release of the footage should bring new scrutiny to this fascinating 2014 sighting. After years of patently phony sightings, drone fakery and inadequate evidence, 2017 opens with a UFO sighting worthy of our attention.
http://www.idigitaltimes.com/ufo-si...eo-mysterious-craft-spraying-something-577075


Edit
A skeptic's interpretation of the sighting:
http://arstechnica.com/science/2017...-chilean-officials-cant-explain-ufo-sighting/

Edit 2
Story as picked up and reported by FOX news.
http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2017/01...t-explain-chilling-footage-bizarre-craft.html

 

[xyloscissor]

 

[Dotini]

This video contains scenes of gigantic rocks and stones, some in the Ural mountains of Russia and others more to the east. Some of the ruined megalithic structures in this video appear manmade, others likely more natural in origin. It's not entirely certain. No formal scientific research or archeological investigation has been done. Many are hundreds of kilometers from the nearest road, let alone village. there is zero historical record or even cultural mythology or legend to explain them. Some of them may dwarf the largest well-documented megalithic blocks (in Baalbek, of over 1000 tons) by an order of magnitude. If the blocks are over a million years old, or even a few hundred thousand, that seemingly rules out a human origin. Aliens, or a previous unknown race of humanoids, are seemingly possible explanations at this point of the mystery.



Baalbek

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[Dotini]

@TenEightyOne

As one of our best appreciated experts on aviation and photography, I'm anxious to hear what you think about this very recent (1/16/17) Teheran, Iran UFO incident. A maneuvering, reflective object is seen being shot at(!) by some sort of radio(?) proximity/cluster munitions fired by anti-aircraft artillery.

https://video.search.yahoo.com/sear...3b9f5c151182e955d1e71466e554ed3a&action=click

There seems to be a narrative going around in the alternate paranoia and rumor media that an alien invasion is taking place.

 

[Dotini]

The images seen below in the video may be hoaxes or otherwise explainable. Some are historically known images of real mysteries and suspected hoaxes, some are new to me.

• http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38663522
  
  
  Image copyrightSCIENCE PHOTO LIBRARY

Image captionThe documents include records of UFO sightings

About 13 million pages of declassified documents from the US Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) have been released online.

The records include UFO sightings and psychic experiments from the Stargate programme, which has long been of interest to conspiracy theorists.

The move came after lengthy efforts from freedom of information advocates and a lawsuit against the CIA.

The full archive is made up of almost 800,000 files.

They had previously only been accessible at the National Archives in Maryland.