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"Disclosure 2017 Scientists Warn Public to Stay Calm | 234 Alien Signals Found?"
Published on Jan 28, 2017
With the CIA making the surprising move to declassify millions of UFO documents, and with president elect Hillary Clinton, voicing proposals of declassifying UFO information. many have begun to anticipate disclosure of alien life this year, and A paper titled “Discovery of peculiar periodic spectral modulations, in a small fraction of solar type stars, published in the journal Publications of the Astronomical Society of the Pacific, may turn out to be that first step in the process of the general publics discovery, that we are not alone.
Scientists believe they have picked up a signal which is indeed an extra-terrestrial intelligence, attempting to make contact with other life. With scientists even warning those who read the data, to stay calm in regards to the information.
Doctor Simon Foster, a physicist from Imperial College London was quoted as saying,
there is a breakthrough just around the corner.”
Upon reading The paper, you discover that it does not only put forward abnormal data for one star system, but rather, the data postulates that we may have discovered over
234 independent, alien star systems, attempting to communicate with us and others.
E.F. Borra and E. Trottier, two astronomers at Laval University in Canada, Who wrote the paper,
used data from the Sloan Digital Sky Survey, and analyzed the spectra of 2.5 million stars. Of all those stars, they found 234 stars that are producing a puzzling signal. That's only a tiny percentage. And, they say, these signals "have exactly the shape of an ETI signal" that was predicted in a previous study by Borra.
The 234 stars in Borra and Trottier's study are not random. They're "overwhelmingly in the F2 to K1 spectral range" according to the abstract. That's significant because this is a small range centred around the spectrum of our own Sun. the preliminary presumption we have, is that our own Sun is the only one we know of that has an intelligent species living near it. If ours does, maybe others do too?
The detected signals are pulses of light separated by a constant time interval.
This data may turn out to be the first step in disclosure, not only that, but may be our first contact with alien life.
as always, thanks for watching.
Link to Paper:
https://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/16...
Published on Jan 28, 2017
With the CIA making the surprising move to declassify millions of UFO documents, and with president elect Hillary Clinton, voicing proposals of declassifying UFO information. many have begun to anticipate disclosure of alien life this year, and A paper titled “Discovery of peculiar periodic spectral modulations, in a small fraction of solar type stars, published in the journal Publications of the Astronomical Society of the Pacific, may turn out to be that first step in the process of the general publics discovery, that we are not alone.
Scientists believe they have picked up a signal which is indeed an extra-terrestrial intelligence, attempting to make contact with other life. With scientists even warning those who read the data, to stay calm in regards to the information.
Doctor Simon Foster, a physicist from Imperial College London was quoted as saying,
there is a breakthrough just around the corner.”
Upon reading The paper, you discover that it does not only put forward abnormal data for one star system, but rather, the data postulates that we may have discovered over
234 independent, alien star systems, attempting to communicate with us and others.
E.F. Borra and E. Trottier, two astronomers at Laval University in Canada, Who wrote the paper,
used data from the Sloan Digital Sky Survey, and analyzed the spectra of 2.5 million stars. Of all those stars, they found 234 stars that are producing a puzzling signal. That's only a tiny percentage. And, they say, these signals "have exactly the shape of an ETI signal" that was predicted in a previous study by Borra.
The 234 stars in Borra and Trottier's study are not random. They're "overwhelmingly in the F2 to K1 spectral range" according to the abstract. That's significant because this is a small range centred around the spectrum of our own Sun. the preliminary presumption we have, is that our own Sun is the only one we know of that has an intelligent species living near it. If ours does, maybe others do too?
The detected signals are pulses of light separated by a constant time interval.
This data may turn out to be the first step in disclosure, not only that, but may be our first contact with alien life.
as always, thanks for watching.
Link to Paper:
https://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/16...
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Random thoughts in answer to your question:
Alien abductions are a portion of the alien/UFO mystery that blend into the paranormal/religious/mythological/military/intelligence realms, not to mention electromagnetic, psychological, psycho-pharmacological and sociological. Making quick, uniformed comments quickly gets into deep waters.
SECURETEAM is not a trustworthy source.
The famous Travis Walton case remains unsolved.
No hard, solid, physical evidence exists for aliens, UFOs or alien abduction exists that I know of.
I can logically accept that 234 alien planets may be in communication with Earth, but not that physical, nuts-and-bolts flying saucers or aliens are here now.
Speculation:
In my reading of the science data, it seems that the 234 planets hypothesized to be communicating with Earth may be using a technology involving beaming - as with an antenna of some sort. If so, self-reassembling (electromagnetic?) entities may be encoded into some of the beams. Just a speculation on that, not a completed thought.
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If it did exist why would you know of it? Also the Travis Walton Case is what...from a person who lives in the state and is well associated with the story as much as the lost Dutchman's gold supposedly hidden here. There are problems with the story when compared to other events of abduction or CE2/CE3.
Why?
okay...
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Thank you for your comments and questions. I do not mind replying in a thoughtful, even lengthy manner, but I would first ask you to expand ever so slightly on what it is you would like me to answer, if you please.
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It's not that hard, you said you see contact as easily possible between us and those of planets that may be inhabited but you don't see it possible or think it to have happened that physical structures from other planets have come here. So once again why? Why is it that one thing seems very likely but no the other?
Because in the reality of it, we don't know, and I find it should be equally critical on both fronts, either you believe there are planets communicating with earth right now, from must more vast distances than what has already tried to be communicated with and nothing showed in return. And you also believe that if this is possible then the possibility of visiting said areas is also there too. Or you believe neither is possible.
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Logically I can see aliens communicating electronically (speed of light) with Earth. But we know of no physics or energy source on Earth that would allow physical objects to travel between the stars, certainly not in a timely way and in the numbers and variety that UFOs are observed in. And no aliens or UFOs have ever been captured and demonstrated to exist as solid physical objects. Therefore I must logically rule out physical visits to Earth by aliens. Caveat: There may be some advanced technology developed in the future to allow this, but it is not demonstrable, real, existing here and now. So ruled out by me here and now.
In the above painting, depicting a 217 BC event, is a scene similar to what I personally witnessed with others in the daylight one day back in the 60's. A single orange glowing ball of light appeared in the sky. It then divided into numerous other glowing balls of light, all the while changing shape, size and color, silently, at a distance of a few hundred feet from the viewers. The phenomenon was witnessed by other parties as well. The event lasted about 15 minutes before gathering back into one object and disappearing, ephemerally. The phenomenon has all the properties of an electromagnetic plasma - like ball lightning - and none of the properties of a solid, physical object.
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In the above painting, depicting a 217 BC event, is a scene similar to what I personally witnessed with others in the daylight one day back in the 60's. A single orange glowing ball of light appeared in the sky. It then divided into numerous other glowing balls of light, all the while changing shape, size and color, silently, at a distance of a few hundred feet from the viewers. The phenomenon was witnessed by other parties as well. The event lasted about 15 minutes before gathering back into one object and disappearing, ephemerally. The phenomenon has all the properties of an electromagnetic plasma - like ball lightning - and none of the properties of a solid, physical object.
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That doesn't answer the question, so for starters the proof you provided isn't very good sourcing anymore than the supposed man doing fisty cuffs with an alien in a British backyard. Now we have idea of physics on a quantum level that would allow for travel, just because we don't have the ability to do it means nothing.
You say no ufos or aliens have been uncovered...I've already asked you why you think you'd be shown this info even if it does exist. In reality you're logic on this is the same as the other, unless you have the AAIA or Astro Science Journal report for us all to read then the conclussive idea that we're in contact with Alien planets is not realistic. In the end all you've given is this idea that circumstantial evidence and limited eye witness evidence and images isn't enough to convince you of a possibility. Unless you have tangible material. Which is ironic considering your fringe takes on a lot of this stuff.
In the end this argument is one I typically hear from people, "we don't have it thus it doesn't exist". Which is hilarious because we don't know that much and thus for us to think we're the paragon of physical capabilities in th universe...one what grounds?
Another reason I do not subscribe to the nuts-and-bolts UFO theory is my direct first person experience(s) with the phenomena.
In the above painting, depicting a 217 BC event, is a scene similar to what I personally witnessed with others in the daylight one day back in the 60's. A single orange glowing ball of light appeared in the sky. It then divided into numerous other glowing balls of light, all the while changing shape, size and color, silently, at a distance of a few hundred feet from the viewers. The phenomenon was witnessed by other parties as well. The event lasted about 15 minutes before gathering back into one object and disappearing, ephemerally. The phenomenon has all the properties of an electromagnetic plasma - like ball lightning - and none of the properties of a solid, physical object.
So you're experience sets the tone from then on? I recall events in Belgium in the late 80s and early 90s where people saw a solid object that would fire off a red ball that seemed to change shape as well and even fly about under what some may call intelligent control. The point is there are various stories and scenario and you telling me your experience doesn't mean anything. It's a single instance in a vast sea of many over the decades that should all be analyzed and not put under one column like you seem to be doing.
Also ball lightning doesn't do what you claimed or has no evidence of such in history, so I myself could easily claim logically speaking that what you saw and what it could be aren't the same.
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Ancient aliens is an incredibly popular show on the History Channel. Below we have a hint of enormous pyramids far larger than those on the Giza plateau, which are dated from before the last glaciation. In other words, antediluvian, tens of thousands of years old. This raises issues of technology and organization which do not well fit the known human timeline and history. Very amusing candy for the mind.
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Sadly that video has none of the "quality" of the History channel. We're treated to a hill that has "all the hallmarks of a pyramid" except for the obvious fact that it has different angles, is made geographically and doesn't have the tunnels. The dating of the stones seems odd... they come out about 20000 years too young.
And nature never ever cuts stone in straight lines - amiright?
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Nature in fact does produce stones with straight lines and right angles, sure enough. However, we should sit up and take notice when we encounter tool marks, carvings, structured dolmens, menhirs, etc.
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Correct. Other vids can be shown which do feature the toolmarks and other unmistakable signs of artificial construction. But is there the interest to discuss them, and is this the best thread for that? "Antediluvian" prehistory and its connections to aliens is tenuous and speculative. The legend of Atlantis is also closely connected. Any interest out there to discuss??
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Let's see those vids!
I'd say this is as good a thread as any, examples of early technologies are often met with a cry of "alyuns!" after all. If it's the wrong thread I hope we're moderated kindly
The following images are said to be megaliths of the Urals, more than 100 km from any road, and made by a completely unknown civilization. Note the saw marks in the 3rd photo down. The 2nd from the bottom looks like it might be a natural formation.
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Given enough time and people, ancient civilizations really could have built anything. I think it's almost an insult to our ancestors to think they couldn't do it, I mean look at the mega structures we build now, there's no reason ancients couldn't have done the same thing.
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Easter island, the Egyptian pyramids, Mayan temples etc. There's all kinds of examples of ancients who moved unbelievably heavy objects and set them in place. Levers, pulleys and using logs to roll them on simplifies things tremendously. It's still amazing though.
The guy in Florida who built "Coral Castle", is a good example. I watched a show on this once, he built most of this place by himself, and people still aren't positive on how he did some of it. In some cases he moved 20+ tons of coral(actually limestone) himself and placed them.
http://www.labyrinthina.com/coral-castle.html
The guy in Florida who built "Coral Castle", is a good example. I watched a show on this once, he built most of this place by himself, and people still aren't positive on how he did some of it. In some cases he moved 20+ tons of coral(actually limestone) himself and placed them.
http://www.labyrinthina.com/coral-castle.html
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We already know that bronze-age cultures could build in stone and that they could build big. The Megaliths of the Urals in your photos are a good example of that, and there are more around the world. Why do you say "unknown civilisation"? Ananinyo and Pyanobar are two that spring to mind (I'll check my spelling later). We do know about structures like these and we do know some of the area's history. These are fascinating builds that have been well researched. I guess ante-diluvian isn't that long ago in the frame of modern archaeology
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I guess ante-diluvian isn't that long ago in the frame of modern archaeology
Wait, did you just use antediluvian in a sentence? Don't you know that anytime someone uses that word, it's a manadatory cue for some Donovan?
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Newly Found Megalithic Ruins In Russia Contain The Largest Blocks Of Stone Ever Discovered
BY IWB · PUBLISHED MARCH 10, 2014 · UPDATED MARCH 13, 2014
By Michael Snyder
An incredible discovery that was recently made in Russia threatens to shatter conventional theories about the history of the planet. On Mount Shoria in southern Siberia, researchers have found an absolutely massive wall of granite stones. Some of these gigantic granite stones are estimated to weigh more than 3,000 tons, and as you will see below, many of them were cut “with flat surfaces, right angles, and sharp corners”. Nothing of this magnitude has ever been discovered before. The largest stone found at the megalithic ruins at Baalbek, Lebanon is less than 1,500 tons. So how in the world did someone cut 3,000 ton granite stones with extreme precision, transport them up the side of a mountain and stack them 40 meters high? According to the commonly accepted version of history, it would beimpossible for ancient humans with very limited technology to accomplish such a thing. Could it be possible that there is much more to the history of this planet than we are being taught?
For years, historians and archaeologists have absolutely marveled at the incredibly huge stones found at Baalbek. But some of these stones in Russia are reportedly more than twice the size. Needless to say, a lot of people are getting very excited about this discovery. The following comes from a Mysterious Universe article…
Alternate history buffs are about to be whipped into a frenzy! OK, maybe not, but they will find this interesting.
An ancient “super-megalithic” site has been found in the Siberian Mountains. Found recently in Gornaya Shoria (Mount Shoria) in southern Siberia, this site consists of huge blocks of stone, which appear to be granite, with flat surfaces, right angles, and sharp corners. The blocks appear to be stacked, almost in the manner of cyclopean masonry, and well…they’re enormous!
Russia is no stranger to ancient megalithic sites, like Arkaim or Russia’s Stonehenge, and the Manpupuner formation, just to name two, but the site at Shoria is unique in that, if it’s man-made, the blocks used are undoubtedly the largest ever worked by human hands.
When I say that this is a new discovery, I am not kidding. In fact, the very first expedition to study these stones happened just a few months ago. Prior to this expedition, there were no known photographs of these megalithic stones. Archaeologist John Jensen is mystified by these ancient ruins, and the following is an excerpt from a post on his personal blog…
The super megaliths were found and photographed for the first time by Georgy Sidorov on a recent expedition to the Southern Siberian mountains. The following images are from Valery Uvarov’s Russian website.
There are no measurements given, but from the scale depicted by the human figures, these megaliths are much larger (as much as 2 to 3 times larger) than the largest known megaliths in the world. (Example: The Pregnant Woman Stone of Baalbek, Lebanon weighs in at approximately 1,260 ton). Some of these megaliths could easily weigh upwards of 3,000 to 4,000 tons.
Below, I have posted some of the images that he was referring to. As you can see, they are absolutely stunning…
Another very unusual thing about these stones is that they caused the compasses of the researchers to start behaving very strangely.
The following is an excerpt from a story on a Russian news source…
Some events that were happening during the autumn expedition could probably be called mystical. The compasses of the geologists behaved very strangely, for some unknown reason their arrows were deviating from the megaliths. What could this mean? All that was clear was that they came across an inexplicable phenomenon of the negative geomagnetic field. Could this be a remnant of ancient antigravity technologies?
Of course much more research needs to be done on this site.
Nobody knows who cut these stones or how old they are.
Jensen believes that they come from a time “well back into the mists of pre-history”…
These megaliths reach well back into the mists of pre-history, so far in fact, that conjecture about their ‘builders’, methods, purpose and meaning is pure speculation, and as such, I would hesitate to offer any observation at all, other than to say our pre-historical past is richer than we ever dreamed.
These stones are likely to remain an unsolved mystery for a very long time.
But what is abundantly clear is that according to the commonly accepted version of history they should not be there.
And of course this is far from the only site around the world that contains massive megalithic ruins. Perhaps the most famous are the megalithic ruins at Baalbek, Lebanon…
BY IWB · PUBLISHED MARCH 10, 2014 · UPDATED MARCH 13, 2014
By Michael Snyder
An incredible discovery that was recently made in Russia threatens to shatter conventional theories about the history of the planet. On Mount Shoria in southern Siberia, researchers have found an absolutely massive wall of granite stones. Some of these gigantic granite stones are estimated to weigh more than 3,000 tons, and as you will see below, many of them were cut “with flat surfaces, right angles, and sharp corners”. Nothing of this magnitude has ever been discovered before. The largest stone found at the megalithic ruins at Baalbek, Lebanon is less than 1,500 tons. So how in the world did someone cut 3,000 ton granite stones with extreme precision, transport them up the side of a mountain and stack them 40 meters high? According to the commonly accepted version of history, it would beimpossible for ancient humans with very limited technology to accomplish such a thing. Could it be possible that there is much more to the history of this planet than we are being taught?
For years, historians and archaeologists have absolutely marveled at the incredibly huge stones found at Baalbek. But some of these stones in Russia are reportedly more than twice the size. Needless to say, a lot of people are getting very excited about this discovery. The following comes from a Mysterious Universe article…
Alternate history buffs are about to be whipped into a frenzy! OK, maybe not, but they will find this interesting.
An ancient “super-megalithic” site has been found in the Siberian Mountains. Found recently in Gornaya Shoria (Mount Shoria) in southern Siberia, this site consists of huge blocks of stone, which appear to be granite, with flat surfaces, right angles, and sharp corners. The blocks appear to be stacked, almost in the manner of cyclopean masonry, and well…they’re enormous!
Russia is no stranger to ancient megalithic sites, like Arkaim or Russia’s Stonehenge, and the Manpupuner formation, just to name two, but the site at Shoria is unique in that, if it’s man-made, the blocks used are undoubtedly the largest ever worked by human hands.
When I say that this is a new discovery, I am not kidding. In fact, the very first expedition to study these stones happened just a few months ago. Prior to this expedition, there were no known photographs of these megalithic stones. Archaeologist John Jensen is mystified by these ancient ruins, and the following is an excerpt from a post on his personal blog…
The super megaliths were found and photographed for the first time by Georgy Sidorov on a recent expedition to the Southern Siberian mountains. The following images are from Valery Uvarov’s Russian website.
There are no measurements given, but from the scale depicted by the human figures, these megaliths are much larger (as much as 2 to 3 times larger) than the largest known megaliths in the world. (Example: The Pregnant Woman Stone of Baalbek, Lebanon weighs in at approximately 1,260 ton). Some of these megaliths could easily weigh upwards of 3,000 to 4,000 tons.
Below, I have posted some of the images that he was referring to. As you can see, they are absolutely stunning…
Another very unusual thing about these stones is that they caused the compasses of the researchers to start behaving very strangely.
The following is an excerpt from a story on a Russian news source…
Some events that were happening during the autumn expedition could probably be called mystical. The compasses of the geologists behaved very strangely, for some unknown reason their arrows were deviating from the megaliths. What could this mean? All that was clear was that they came across an inexplicable phenomenon of the negative geomagnetic field. Could this be a remnant of ancient antigravity technologies?
Of course much more research needs to be done on this site.
Nobody knows who cut these stones or how old they are.
Jensen believes that they come from a time “well back into the mists of pre-history”…
These megaliths reach well back into the mists of pre-history, so far in fact, that conjecture about their ‘builders’, methods, purpose and meaning is pure speculation, and as such, I would hesitate to offer any observation at all, other than to say our pre-historical past is richer than we ever dreamed.
These stones are likely to remain an unsolved mystery for a very long time.
But what is abundantly clear is that according to the commonly accepted version of history they should not be there.
And of course this is far from the only site around the world that contains massive megalithic ruins. Perhaps the most famous are the megalithic ruins at Baalbek, Lebanon…
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Evidence of an unknown advanced civilization, or even aliens? - or just a well documented common geological formation? You decide.
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...or some of all this blended together? Howzabout we throw in giants and fallen angels for good measure?
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It looks an awful lot like Stanage Edge to me.
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