Aliens

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

IMHO, no biological aliens currently exist in our current solar system. Until aliens are shown to exist, I choose to deny their existence. Is that okay with you? Even if they do exist in distant star systems, transport between stars of solid flesh and blood beings is physically impossible in the system of physics as we currently understand it.

That's moving the goal post though, and by quite a margin of neglect I almost wonder what bother is there to having discourse on this with you. I mean you might as well say "there is no biological aliens currently existing on all man made satellites in orbit."

Because compared to the known galaxy and even great the known universe, our solar system might as well be a drop in a massive ocean. I don't really care what your heart of heart thoughts are, you are entitled to them, but I wont sit here and say how good and well they are if that's what you're asking.

As for transport, no one ever said anything about it. Let's keep it simple for now. I simply said due to circumstantial evidence better known as mathematical probability and algorithms we can say with some certainty. What it is, where it is and when it is exactly existing is a much harder thing to do, but that doesn't at all make the notion impossible.

It's possible they once existed on Mars and migrated to our younger planet Earth when their own world grew too old.

When NASA solar observing satellites show giant black clouds gobbling energy from the Sun, that goes way beyond biological alien beings into the realm of inorganic physical processes that are nearly incomprehensible unless you've read The Black Cloud. Or maybe secureteam or NASA itself is generating fake news and alternative facts about the solar system?

Anyone with a differing opinion is encouraged to jump in!

It's possible they did so from Venus as well, or one of the various moons of Jupiter or any other popular belief of aliens visiting Earth from somewhere in our solar system.

Also Secureteam is sensationalism for the space community and even ufology so I'd wonder when they're not making fake news. As for NASA I doubt they're making fake news they've got plenty to talk about that isn't fake sensationalism.

 

[Dotini]

Let's keep it simple for now. I simply said due to circumstantial evidence better known as mathematical probability and algorithms we can say with some certainty. What it is, where it is and when it is exactly existing is a much harder thing to do, but that doesn't at all make the notion impossible.

I can agree with this! What's the next little step on the road to complete agreement?

Little understood solar prominence mistaken for UFO?
http://www.livescience.com/19024-refueling-ufo-solar-prominence.html

 

[Castrol96]

No. Where did you get this from?

Oh, and isn't it time for Jesus to return as well? 2017 seems cluttered already.

It was news from Oct-Dec last year as you may have missed out.

Apparently they have came as mass UFO sightings have been seen; although that may just be Project Blue Beem.

 

[TenEightyOne]

Oh, and isn't it time for Jesus to return as well? 2017 seems cluttered already.

I think Bowie put paid to that, it would have been pointless just to make the ticker on some Gambian news channel.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

It was news from Oct-Dec last year as you may have missed out.

Apparently they have came as mass UFO sightings have been seen; although that may just be Project Blue Beem.

Stop, I don't know if this is some joke or what not or if you're really serious, but there is a thread for this stuff already. Secondly project blue beem? Obviously you mean blue beam and that is an old washed up two decades conspiracy that wasn't believable when it came out and still isn't today. No more than any other Revelations or second coming story we get told one every 2-3 years. Also "news" look full disclosure isn't a news source...let's be clear.

 

[Castrol96]

Stop, I don't know if this is some joke or what not or if you're really serious, but there is a thread for this stuff already. Secondly project blue beem? Obviously you mean blue beam and that is an old washed up two decades conspiracy that wasn't believable when it came out and still isn't today. No more than any other Revelations or second coming story we get told one every 2-3 years. Also "news" look full disclosure isn't a news source...let's be clear.

Not saying it's true at all but just theory by a so called expert.

Estimated they'll arrive September 2017

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

Not saying it's true at all but just theory by a so called expert.

Estimated they'll arrive September 2017

I still don't at all get where you found this or saw it. And why an old conspiracy is being reused as if new.

 

[PeterJB]

It was news from Oct-Dec last year as you may have missed out.

Apparently they have came as mass UFO sightings have been seen; although that may just be Project Blue Beem.

There have been more UFO sightings in the United States in the 1950s than at any other point of or place in time. Seems very convenient that this was at the height of Cold War paranoia, and when aviation and military technology was increasing in leaps and bounds, and that most sightings were witnessed by only a handful of people out in the sticks in the middle of the night. Did the aliens decide to spend a few years doing night-time reconnaissance of rural Kentucky and then bugger off back to planet Mong again?

 

[Dotini]

There have been more UFO sightings in the United States in the 1950s than at any other point of or place in time. Seems very convenient that this was at the height of Cold War paranoia, and when aviation and military technology was increasing in leaps and bounds, and that most sightings were witnessed by only a handful of people out in the sticks in the middle of the night. Did the aliens decide to spend a few years doing night-time reconnaissance of rural Kentucky and then bugger off back to planet Mong again?

Good observations and questions. Astronomer and author Allan Hendry says this,
http://mysteriousuniverse.org/2017/02/allan-hendry-and-the-case-for-scientific-study-of-ufos/
They were supposed to have been “postwar nerves,” a fad that would die out after a brief period of time. However, the floodtide of UFO reports that started in 1947 gained a positive foothold that has not diminished in over three decades. Thirteen thousand reports of UFOs (and well-intentioned IFOs) were collected by the U. S. Air Force from the United States alone; such a large number makes it difficult to proclaim that UFOs don’t exist (in the sense that we define them here) but neither does it guarantee that they do.

The year 1947 is treated here as the beginning of the integrated concept we now call UFOs. Granted, there had been a number of unusual aerial sightings prior to this time: Roman “flying shields,” turn-of-the-century “airships,” and World War II “foo fighters,” to name a few; but these earlier sightings did not prompt a unified “UFO” system back then.

This only happened at the end of World War II. Since then, we have undergone a constant period of reports and there is nothing to suggest they will come to a halt. So, unquestionably, for better or for worse, we have a phenomenon of some kind on our hands — even if it is only a sociological/psychological one. The huge number of reports from the past guarantees that. Remember, prior to 1947, thousands of people were not reporting IFOs like stars, meteors, and aircraft lights as “UFOs” to the police departments and airports. Even if sociology is the ultimate explanation of UFO reports, the implications may be just as important.


The other side of Allan: Hendry’s work as a commercial artist occasionally carried over into his Ufological studies.

 

[Castrol96]

I still don't at all get where you found this or saw it. And why an old conspiracy is being reused as if new.

To end confusion on this theory, and where I got the evidence is from day to day videos like secure-team and sites. Also, and if your wondering about project blue-beem, I've recently known about it and rarely know much other than what it is said to do.

There have been more UFO sightings in the United States in the 1950s than at any other point of or place in time. Seems very convenient that this was at the height of Cold War paranoia, and when aviation and military technology was increasing in leaps and bounds, and that most sightings were witnessed by only a handful of people out in the sticks in the middle of the night. Did the aliens decide to spend a few years doing night-time reconnaissance of rural Kentucky and then bugger off back to planet Mong again?

I personally haven't researched or know much about passed UFO sightings but tend to watch most recent sightings. And as you can tell by now I don't believe that so called "invasion" theory.

 

[Dotini]

Six UFOs pass by ISS. NASA cuts the feed. Probably natural phenomenon, since no aliens have ever been shown to exist on or near Earth. (Although statistically, they must exist somewhere.)

 

[Castrol96]

Six UFOs pass by ISS. NASA cuts the feed. Probably natural phenomenon, since no aliens have ever been shown to exist on or near Earth. (Although statistically, they must exist somewhere.)

I saw this so called debris in another live stream, it really freaked me out.

 

[Dotini]

X-15 encounters with UFOs at the edge of space...


Recent UFO sightings reported in the mainstream media...

 

[Dotini]

A slick, professional high-dollar production sponsored by Pepsi Corporation calling for a new world order of peace and love through worship of aliens.

 

[Castrol96]

A slick, professional high-dollar production sponsored by Pepsi Corporation calling for a new world order of peace and love through worship of aliens.

What a Load of Baloney!

 

[Dotini]

What a Load of Baloney!

Haphazard baloney, or careful propaganda?

 

[Castrol96]

Haphazard baloney, or careful propaganda?

Haphazard

 

[Dotini]

An earlier documentary on the history of unnatural retrograde satellites in Earth orbit, sometimes referred to as the Black Knight.

 

[Castrol96]

An earlier documentary on the history of unnatural retrograde satellites in Earth orbit, sometimes referred to as the Black Knight.

I know about this thing for a while, I even made a 3D model of it using the photos but unexpectedly the file became corrupt even the images of it I rendered? - Perhaps I was being monitored?

 

[Dotini]

I know about this thing for a while, I even made a 3D model of it using the photos but unexpectedly the file became corrupt even the images of it I rendered? - Perhaps I was being monitored?

No doubt at all you're being monitored. But more likely for reasons other than an alien fetish.

 

[Castrol96]

No doubt at all you're being monitored. But more likely for reasons other than an alien fetish.

 

[Dotini]

Haphazard

There's an argument that a false flag alien invasion justifying a military/corporate one-world new order has been in the making, step-by-step since the sixties. And this sort of slick "ancient alien" Black Knight propaganda fits neatly into that argument.

 

[Castrol96]

There's an argument that a false flag alien invasion justifying a military/corporate one-world new order has been in the making, step-by-step since the sixties. And this sort of slick "ancient alien" Black Knight propaganda fits neatly into that argument.

Rumors were going that the invasion (False Flag) was supposed to happen around election time.

 

[Dotini]

Rumors were going that the invasion (False Flag) was supposed to happen around election time.

There was a lot of blather about alien discoveries in Antarctica going around election time. These join up with ongoing rumors of aliens on the moon, Mars and involvement in prehistoric civilizations and their monuments.

 

[Castrol96]

There was a lot of blather about alien discoveries in Antarctica going around election time. These join up with ongoing rumors of aliens on the moon, Mars and involvement in prehistoric civilizations and their monuments.

You must of heard of the rumors at the time that the US was secretly at war with aliens in Antarctica; sounds like total fiction me.

 

[Dotini]

You must of heard of the rumors at the time that the US was secretly at war with aliens in Antarctica; sounds like total fiction me.

Of course its total fiction! Lies, bold lies, expertly crafted over decades to persuade people (at the deep level of memetics and mythology) of the reality and danger of aliens. And how successfully? Just look at our poll! An overwhelming majority believe in the existence of aliens!!

 

[Castrol96]

@Dotini Speaking of Black Knight Satellite...

 

[TenEightyOne]

Of course its total fiction! Lies, bold lies, expertly crafted over decades to persuade people (at the deep level of memetics and mythology) of the reality and danger of aliens. And how successfully? Just look at our poll! An overwhelming majority believe in the existence of aliens!!

The claim there is that the pretence of a US battle with aliens in the Antarctic is directly responsible for a high number of people believing that there is other life in the universe.

Pish.

 

[Dotini]

@Dotini Speaking of Black Knight Satellite...

Yes, it has a profile which somewhat matches some photos of the so-called Black Knight. This video is likely a propaganda hoax.

The claim there is that the pretence of a US battle with aliens in the Antarctic is directly responsible for a high number of people believing that there is other life in the universe.

Pish.

Yes, pish. Or pish-posh, as we say over here. The argument that is somewhat rational is that it is a (small but possibly growing) part of a bigger, very long-term campaign to normalize belief in aliens in general.

 

[Dotini]

Kimmel: "Are there really great secrets (about aliens) that you cannot share?"
GW Bush: "Yeah"



Obama (joking): "The aliens won't let it happen. They exercise strict control over us."
Kimmel(seriously: Did you look, did you see?
Obama: "I can't reveal anything."




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