All Japan Club - Closed

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amar, I think hobbs and Brandon found their cars. And if I understood correctly King switching from clutch+H to sequential might match their speed in BRZ, it might be me and you that are off the pack now...

I planned to keep S2K no matter what but I might do few test runs in the Z and 370GT just in case later this week. Maybe give hobbs and Brandon some pressure :)

Anyway, my practice times will go down from now. I will practice for the Ferrari event bit this week 👍

edit: Open for suggestions for addition to the lineup. hobbsy tried out RX-7 and GT86 "Racing" version tonight.
 
I used to fear Degner, then one day I figured it out and now it's pretty easy.

I'll try to jump on tomorrow evening and have a look around at some other cars. I think even with a fast driver the BRZ might be at too much of a disadvantage at anywhere other than Tsukuba. The S2K and RX-8 are brilliant though so hopefully we can find something to match them well.

@hobbsy was the racing 86 any faster? It looks to have the same specs, I think all that's different is it has a roll cage and a tow hook. That tow hook is probably worth half a second though. :sly:
 
I think I'll take the brz at tsukuba and and joining the S2k club for the other tracks due the subarus huge disadvantage in speed .
Its a lot harder to drive on the edge and I guess you'll see me doin a 360 at least once per track :lol:
I tried the s2k yesterday and I was not much faster at first

@BrandonW77
the ferrari needs a lot of practise , took me 20min to get my first legit lap ,without spinning or messing up my breakpoints :lol::mad:
great fun to drive though :cheers:
 
KingKlingeling
I think I'll take the brz at tsukuba and and joining the S2k club for the other tracks due the subarus huge disadvantage in speed.
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I hate to do major changes so late but here it goes.

Seems everyone has practiced more at Tsukuba than the other 2 tracks. So lets make it 2 Races at Tsukuba with the second race with reversed grid (have to figure out how I need to setup, PM me if you have experience, please).

After Tsukuba, keep the plan and do a quick 10 lap event at Motegi East (not West). After that let's just see what people want to do: more Tsukuba, Suzuka, Suzuka East or SS Route 5 Clubman.

We might even call it quits after Motegi and switch to a Ferrari practice if Brandon is up for it :cheers:

If there are no objections, I will update the info in the OP later tonight.
 
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I'm fine with any decision you make :cheers:
motegi west is not a very technical track . but let's see what the others think about it .
as I said , I'm fine with any track , as long as we get some great racing :D
 
Don't forget the Integra Type R (DC5) :), it felt as quick as the S2K, but very light in terms of connection to the road where as the S2K felt planted more. FWD obviously too.

The 86 Racing, although similar in spec, I think it has stiffer suspension and a slightly different gear ratio! Although I would need to check to be sure. Depending on the circuit I think it feels quick (for a slow car) but no good against the Honda on a long circuit.

Happy with whatever format you decide 👍

I quite enjoyed blasting round Motegi West, but happy to go with the flow
 
If I were to make a suggestion I would offer Tsukuba, Susuka East, and Motegi West As initial circuits.

With a possibility of running the longer versions of Suzuka and Twin Ring once the cars/people have found that balance between each other!

And don't forget there is another Asia circuit not mentioned yet! :sly:
 
hobbsy
And don't forget there is another Asia circuit not mentioned yet! :sly:
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And let's keep it that way please, turn 2 on that track is a high contender for worst corner in the game and pretty much ruins the track (for me).

I would far prefer Motegi East to Motegi West, it has more twisty bits which would help the BRZ and the straight isn't too long and also goes downhill which could also help the BRZ's lack of power. Also, I can navigate all the turns on it (unlike Motegi West). :sly: If we do Tsukuba twice, might I suggest using the MotoGP chicane for the second race?
 
BrandonW77
I would far prefer Motegi East to Motegi West, it has more twisty bits which would help the BRZ and the straight isn't too long and also goes downhill which could also help the BRZ's lack of power.
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Very interesting... I will have a few quick tests. I might just open the voting after second Tsukuba and continue like that until everyone gets bored or exhausted :D (Japan tracks only of course)
 
Noob question warning! :embarrassed: If after a race is finished I would go and switch the starting order to reversed and open vote, would the next race start there with reversed grid based on results of previous race? Anyone up for testing this week?
 
hobbsy
@BrandonW77 Turn 2 is easy in comparison to the last turn/complex... :crazy:
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I don't have much problem with the final complex, I'm probably not fast through there but I can keep it between the curbs. Turn 2 sees me off in the big parking lot almost every time. I quite enjoy the rest of the track.

Cu3e
Noob question warning! :embarrassed: If after a race is finished I would go and switch the starting order to reversed and open vote, would the next race start there with reversed grid based on results of previous race? Anyone up for testing this week?
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Yes, it would. As long as you've done at least one race the next race will be reverse grid regardless of the whether it's on the same track or not.

If I were to vote it would be Tsukuba, Motegi East, Tsukuba with Moto Chicane (in that order). If I had to pick between Suzuka East and Motegi West I'd pick Suzuka East 10 times out of 10 (even though I hate the final turn, I hate the final turns at Motegi West 50 million times more). 👍
 
BrandonW77
I don't have much problem with the final complex, I'm probably not fast through there but I can keep it between the curbs. Turn 2 sees me off in the big parking lot almost every time. I quite enjoy the rest of the track.


Yes, it would. As long as you've done at least one race the next race will be reverse grid regardless of the whether it's on the same track or not.

If I were to vote it would be Tsukuba, Motegi East, Tsukuba with Moto Chicane (in that order). If I had to pick between Suzuka East and Motegi West I'd pick Suzuka East 10 times out of 10 (even though I hate the final turn, I hate the final turns at Motegi West 50 million times more). 👍
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Don't all Mericans hate all corners full stop. Unless it's one REALLY BIG corner with a great big bank to it!!! :P :sly:
 
Updated info on the first page (changes in red / bold)

- I noticed some of my cars did not have oil change. So raised the PP limit to match (sorry about that, was not intentional)
- Added additional car options as raised in the discussions
- Moved 370GT where it belongs in the comparison
 
I just checked the mentioned rx7 rz fd'00 , but I think its a bit OP .
30pp difference to the s2k and 50pp more than the brz .
The efini rx7 type r fd '91 otherwise is in the same pp range + its a premium :D
 
KingKlingeling
I just checked the mentioned rx7 rz fd'00 , but I think its a bit OP .
30pp difference to the s2k and 50pp more than the brz .
The efini rx7 type r fd '91 otherwise is in the same pp range + its a premium :D
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You rigth King RX7, way to much fast then Z version '07 by 1.5 sec,, out of the list!
 
KingKlingeling
The efini rx7 type r fd '91 otherwise is in the same pp range + its a premium :D
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Good find, replacing the other RX with this then?

edit: Got a few laps in. Getting similar lap times in Efini '91 as in 370GT. Much more fun to drive, though. Faster than S2K by about half a second, at least in my hands... Or at least easier to handle the oversteer.
 
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So I did some testing tonight with a few cars. I ran the BRZ and the Toyota 86 'Racing' at Tsukuba and found the Toyota to be a few tenths slower there. I also took the RX-7 out and went perhaps half a second faster than the BRZ. BRZ Best time 1:07.8, RX-7 1:07.3ish.

I then ran each of these about 8 laps at Suzuka East:

0:59.8 -- RX-8
1:00.2 -- S2000
1:00.7 -- Subaru BRZ
1:01.3 -- Toyota 86 'Racing' '13
1:01.4 -- efini RX-7 Type R (FD) '91

I found the RX-7 to be an absolute nightmare at Suzuka; the S2000 seemed positively sedate in comparison. I'm sure I left time out on track, probably half a second or more.

I then went to Motegi East for some 4 to 5 lap runs:
1:40.3 -- RX-8
1:41.5 -- efini RX-7 Type R (FD) '91
1:41.6 -- S2000
1:42.5 -- Subaru BRZ
1:43.8 -- Toyota 86 'Racing' '13

With room to stretch its legs, the RX-7 did much better at Motegi. Still a complete handful. The RX-8 is bloody fast at Motegi. BRZ slow, 86 hopeless.

(All times with ABS 0)

So I'll go with the BRZ at Tsukuba and Suzuka East (if we go there) and an S2000 at Motegi unless I can somehow find another second in the BRZ (doubtful).

--amar
 
amarynceos
So I did some testing tonight with a few cars. I ran the BRZ and the Toyota 86 'Racing' at Tsukuba and found the Toyota to be a few tenths slower there. I also took the RX-7 out and went perhaps half a second faster than the BRZ. BRZ Best time 1:07.8, RX-7 1:07.3ish.

I then ran each of these about 8 laps at Suzuka East:

0:59.8 -- RX-8
1:00.2 -- S2000
1:00.7 -- Subaru BRZ
1:01.3 -- Toyota 86 'Racing' '13
1:01.4 -- efini RX-7 Type R (FD) '91

I found the RX-7 to be an absolute nightmare at Suzuka; the S2000 seemed positively sedate in comparison. I'm sure I left time out on track, probably half a second or more.

I then went to Motegi East for some 4 to 5 lap runs:
1:40.3 -- RX-8
1:41.5 -- efini RX-7 Type R (FD) '91
1:41.6 -- S2000
1:42.5 -- Subaru BRZ
1:43.8 -- Toyota 86 'Racing' '13

With room to stretch its legs, the RX-7 did much better at Motegi. Still a complete handful. The RX-8 is bloody fast at Motegi. BRZ slow, 86 hopeless.

(All times with ABS 0)

So I'll go with the BRZ at Tsukuba and Suzuka East (if we go there) and an S2000 at Motegi unless I can somehow find another second in the BRZ (doubtful).

--amar
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great testing :bowdown:
I think I'll drive the same cars to give you a good competition .
I bought every car to be prepared , though :D
 
My feeling is that for power RX's and S2K might be equal. For me both RX's are faster because I tend to do mistakes if car is difficult to handle. I did all my testing in Tsukuba, so not sure how it compares to Suzuka East.

Huge thanks for testing the cars! In your hands the comparison should be more accurate for the next event! 👍 :cheers:
 
Looking at that, I should give the RX8 a blast! Not surprised about the 86 Racing, as pretty sure gear ratio is different but I have nothing to back this up!

once again its a shame, as I personally really like the 86/BRZ/FR-S!

Thanks amar, valuable input 👍

Looking forward to this event, as was having some great racing with @BrandonW77 on our last outing...Although its clear now he has a faster car ;)
 

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