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[imaweirdo]

I was looking at the newest video with the day/night and I noticed at the 4:03 mark, there's like some sort of track glitch.

 

[Centura]

They said 16 maximum. So expect 16 on a few track only (only 12 on the ring )

Based on the videos we have seen so far yes, only 12 cars on the "Ring." Just because we haven't seen it yet, does not mean that there won't be an event with 16 cars.

 

[pizzavideogames]

Yea, I think everyone wants more tracks. And I'm definitely part of the camp that is disappointed in the official list, but no one should claim deception. I think that is the point SolidSnakex is trying to make.

In other words, if you got your hopes up that more tracks would be in the game, then that is your fault. And I'm not pointing fingers, because I am one of the people that refused to believe the 20/70 numbers. 👍

But judging from this comment, no offense, but you have a fundamental misunderstanding of how this game was developed.

I hear you, but I think a lot of people were deceived. In a teaching situation, I always believe that it is the person teaching/talking that is responsible for the beliefs that the students/listeners leave with.

If you make a speach and it sounds like you're racist then you did something wrong. You led people to the wrong assumption. I think PD has done that here. They convinced a lot of people that there were over 70 unique tracks.

As for me wanting 0-1 skylines rather than the 41 we got, is because I've seen about 100 of them in previous games. Let's move on past the skyline.

 

[Chikane_GTR]

That's what the Course Maker is for. It's not as if they can create tracks quickly. Kaz said that it took them two years to make Madrid and Rome and it takes them a year to make a race track (like Suzuka, the Ring ect).

well if thats the case .. PD should really think about *Employment* you know higher more people to help you * TRY THAT PD *

 

[CodeRedR51]

That's because Gran Turismo games have never really had... AI. It's more like how Virtua Cop had AI.

GT5 AI was a lot better than GT4.

 

[Daraman]

I was looking at the newest video with the day/night and I noticed at the 4:03 mark, there's like some sort of track glitch.

Already addressed by Tekken, said that was a replay, and it didn't happen during the race.

 

[z06fun]

I believe it's safe to say they scraped the Standard Physics Model.

This would be very strange considering the demo they put out 2 months ago for the stores here still had selectable physics. I went and rechecked this today at my local Gamestop. Interesting thing about the demo is the physics is NOT a selectable option if you choose beginner level for a race. Its only an option for intermediate and expert level races, and also for the time trial mode. I'm wondering if they just renamed it to this "skid recovery force" to be a bit more descriptive. The names pro and standard didn't tell you much about the difference between them.

 

[SolidSnakex]

turns out the final product would have less features than they make it up to be.

It has the exact features that it was said to have. Like I said, some chose to ignore or either not search for all the details. Which is odd because they're all on the official website or on the front page of this site. And earlier you said

but to add features, then take away other features (like tracks from GT4), seriously, that's not something i expect and want as a paying consumer.

GT3 had less tracks and cars than GT2. Despite that GT3 is still seen by many as the best game in the series (although I feel that GT4 is the best). And i've never seen anyone say that GT2 is better than GT3 even though it has more cars and tracks than GT3.

 

[Le Mans 88]

uhm, the heart of a racing game is the cars, tracks, and physics. that's all. i don't care about the rims whatsoever. i just want more tracks.

remember this guy who put up a track list of 70 DIFFERENT tracks, with a total of 150 variations.

turns out we get 20+ tracks, and not all of them have variations. i mean, no Hong Kong, no Seoul, no Spa, alot of tracks from GT4 are absent. i could care less about rims or photomode, because those do not give the satisfaction of driving in another track. i mean, i could only drive around the 'Ring so much before it gets boring. even if it's nighttime, snow, rain, etc. i'm still turning on the same corners, and flying through the same straightaway.

If you are bored of the Nordschleife move onto Le Mans, Monza, Suzuka etc.

Personally I tend to stick with a handfull of my favoured tracks and lap/race different cars. It's the online features and differing track conditions that will bring me back time and time again.

 

[Starking]

I hear you, but I think a lot of people were deceived. In a teaching situation, I always believe that it is the person teaching/talking that is responsible for the beliefs that the students/listeners leave with.

If you make a speach and it sounds like you're racist then you did something wrong. You led people to the wrong assumption. I think PD has done that here. They convinced a lot of people that there were over 70 unique tracks.

As for me wanting 0-1 skylines rather than 41, is because I've seen about 100 of them in previous games. Let's move on past the skyline.

I believe your first statement. The speaker/teacher is responsible for what beliefs the people will leave with. However, this gets thrown out the window when people start twisting around those words to make it out to what they want it to be. Pretty much what the whole GT community did. The 20/70 was right on the money. However people twisted it around to mean 70 tracks in 20 locations/nations. I understand what you're getting at, but I don't think PD is totally at fault here for not metting out expectations. I believe the fans had a hand in hyping the game beyond belief.

 

[terminator363]

I hope we can set the speed of the sun setting, I don't want the first lap to be in the night and the second in the day time. Let's be realistic.

Does anybody know if you can edit this in game?

 

[rawr89]

It has the exact features that it was said to have. Like I said, some chose to ignore or either not search for all the details. Which is odd because they're all on the official website or on the front page of this site. And earlier you said



GT3 had less tracks and cars than GT2. Despite that GT3 is still seen by many as the best game in the series (although I feel that GT4 is the best). And i've never seen anyone say that GT2 is better than GT3 even though it has more cars and tracks than GT3.

uhm, they said 70 tracks in 20 locations. the 'Ring in nighttime and the 'Ring in daytime is the same freaking track.


let's say i go to my local race track here on a sunny Saturday.
and then the next week it starts to rain, and off i go to the track.
if my mom would ask me if i'm going to the track, should i say, "no, i'm going to a different track." even though the only difference is that it's raining?
that's ridiculous.

also, just 'cause GT3 had less tracks and cars than GT2, does that excuse PD for doing the same thing over again. so i guess GT7 will have less tracks and cars than GT6? might as well buy the even-numbered GTs with all the tracks and cars.

 

[Dr.Boss.]

What did they promise? Did Kaz ever say that Spa was in GT5? Nope. Did Kaz ever say that every track would have weather? Nope, in fact the day that they released the weather info the website specifically said that it wasn't for all tracks (but it is for more than 3, as you misstated). And Kaz specifically said that the dynamic weather would work on endurance race tracks (Ring and Le Mans). Just because some either ignored or didn't look for readily available facts doesn't meant that they didn't deliver what they promised.

Agree 100%

I mean COME ON!... who is complaining??? Have you seen the Nordschleife video that Tekken90 posted... EPIC. EPIC, SICK, TIGHT, AWESOME, no racing game has done the RING this well...... but for some of you, it's still not good enough. Absolutely ridiculous.

 

[Freeman_Cruz]

Based on the videos we have seen so far yes, only 12 cars on the "Ring." Just because we haven't seen it yet, does not mean that there won't be an event with 16 cars.

14 (the video skips the scene before the 16 are showed) premiun cars visible in the intro at the ring.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nyGta5Qb4s&t=5m0s

 

[scope72]

I hear you, but I think a lot of people were deceived. In a teaching situation, I always believe that it is the person teaching/talking that is responsible for the beliefs that the students/listeners leave with.

If you make a speach and it sounds like you're racist then you did something wrong. You led people to the wrong assumption. I think PD has done that here. They convinced a lot of people that there were over 70 unique tracks.

As for me wanting 0-1 skylines rather than 41, is because I've seen about 100 of them in previous games. Let's move on past the skyline.

I agree with that on some level. I know that I would feel responsible if a lot of people I was teaching misunderstood what I was teaching. And I think we can both agree that PD/Sony have failed miserably at communicating with the community.

However, if we take the track scenario on its own merits, then we will see that it is a little different. Because PD/Sony stated 20/70 forever, and there were tons of people on here saying "that's impossible!". So, we decided that 20/70 would never happen, so we twisted it around in our head and decided that it must 70 or more.

Regarding Skylines, they are standard models, that are just upgraded assets. It probably took PD a week to do that. So, that is 51 more weeks to go for Spa.

But trust me I want Spa, but it's probably not going to happen at this point, and it certainly has nothing to do with Skylines.

 

[gt3killer]

What are the chances of PD actually releasing the other half of GT5? I really don't mind paying extra for it, just as long as there are more upgrades, more tracks, more options!

I don't know about giving us only half the content, but I do believe we will be getting DLC.

 

[ghostrider135]

uhm, the heart of a racing game is the cars, tracks, and physics. that's all. i don't care about the rims whatsoever. i just want more tracks.


remember this guy who put up a track list of 70 DIFFERENT tracks, with a total of 150 variations.

turns out we get 20+ tracks, and not all of them have variations. i mean, no Hong Kong, no Seoul, no Spa, alot of tracks from GT4 are absent. i could care less about rims or photomode, because those do not give the satisfaction of driving in another track. i mean, i could only drive around the 'Ring so much before it gets boring. even if it's nighttime, snow, rain, etc. i'm still turning on the same corners, and flying through the same straightaway.


besides, there are tracks that i don't want to race on. now that gives me less options because now i have less tracks to choose from. not very flexible.

Do you see Lewis Hamilton complaining about going round a track x amount of times or Mark Webber no, Yes maybe we have lost a few tracks maybe nobody knows coz we don't all have the game yet, It's already proven the car list was inaccurate so its possible to expect the same from the track list

 

[rawr89]

If you are bored of the Nordschleife move onto Le Mans, Monza, Suzuka etc.

Personally I tend to stick with a handfull of my favoured tracks and lap/race different cars. It's the online features and differing track conditions that will bring me back time and time again.

of course i will move onto Le Mans, Monza, Suzuka. but what if i become bored with the 'Ring, Le Mans, Monza, and Suzuka? see what i did there? 27 tracks isn't much. and you drive those 27 tracks for career, arcade, driving challenges, everything.

 

[shirakawaa]

GT3 had less tracks and cars than GT2. Despite that GT3 is still seen by many as the best game in the series (although I feel that GT4 is the best). And i've never seen anyone say that GT2 is better than GT3 even though it has more cars and tracks than GT3.

GT3 came out less than six months after the PS2 launch and less than a year and a half after GT2.

GT5 has come out four years after the PS3 launch and almost six years after GT4.
All this time passed is why people expected more.

Also:
- the generation gap between the PS1 and the PS2 was much wider than what's between the PS2 and the PS3
- back in 2001, there wasn't really competition. GT3 was above everything in every aspect. Today the story is different. Sure, other racing games as a whole still can't yet quite compete with GT5, but often have better single features.

 

[JamboGT]

of course i will move onto Le Mans, Monza, Suzuka. but what if i become bored with the 'Ring, Le Mans, Monza, and Suzuka? see what i did there? 27 tracks isn't much. and you drive those 27 tracks for career, arcade, driving challenges, everything.

Then you play one of the pretty much infinite number of circuits that can be made with the course creator.

 

[rawr89]

Do you see Lewis Hamilton complaining about going round a track x amount of times or Mark Webber no, Yes maybe we have lost a few tracks maybe nobody knows coz we don't all have the game yet

why would they complain when their careers depend on it? i don't get my living expenses through racing, so i can complain. do you see Kobe Bryant complaining about using Spalding balls every game? geez.

i complain because i'm paying for a product. as alot of people said, i want more tracks. 20+ tracks can't get you anywhere. how many Rally tracks? 3? Dirt and Snow are not even available to all tracks.

so at most we get 20+ tracks, some have day/night, some have dirt/snow/rain, some have none. that's it? really? and some tracks aren't even that great.

 

[OkeyD]

So how many racing games this generation have more tracks than GT5?

 

[Dr.Boss.]

I mean GAWD DAMN, 60fps, 200mph down the RING's back straight at night... tell me that doesn't get you excited.

Add some online friends who drive better than the AI, and you've got the most epic racing experience to date.

Add more than 200 premium cars that you can tune/customize to your hearts content, and you've got the most epic racing experience to date.

Add PS3 1080p (Almost) graphics, and you've got the most epic racing experience to date.

Add the most meticulously modeled vehicles, best lighting system, severely improved physics, weather, 800 additional standard vehicles, photo-mode, the redbull X1, coarse creator, damage... Kaz's and his teams passion... and you've got the most epic racing experience to date.

Do any of you have jobs? Do you know what it takes to accomplish something this monumental? Sure, there could be more... and there will be in GT6. FOR NOW, GT5 STANDS ALONE AMONG RACING SIMS.

Enjoy it for what it is. Why raise you blood pressure over something that you have no control over. None of you work at PD, none of you are making the decisions, Sony isn't your personal play toy. You are there's. You pay their bills... and despite all the bitching you are going to buy their game. THE END.

 

[imaweirdo]

You guys should be happy that at least they've given a thought into GT6.

 

[airjoker88]

I mean GAWD DAMN, 60fps, 200mph done the RING's straight at night... tell me that doesn't get you excited.

Add some online friends who drive better than the AI, and you've got the most epic racing experience to date.

Add more than 200 premium cars that you can tune/customize to your hearts content, and you've got the most epic racing experience to date.

Add PS3 1080p (Almost) graphics, and you've got the most epic racing experience to date.

Add the most meticulously modeled vehicles, best lighting system, severely improved physics, weather, 800 additional standard vehicles, photo-mode, the redbull X1, coarse creator, damage... Kaz's and his teams passion... and you've got the most epic racing experience to date.

Do any of you have jobs? Do you know what it takes to accomplish something this monumental? Sure, there could be more... and there will be in GT6. FOR NOW, GT5 STANDS ALONE AMONG RACING SIMS.

Enjoy it for what it is. Why raise you blood pressure over something that you have no control over. None of you work at PD, none of you are making the decisions, Sony isn't your personal play toy. You are there's. You pay their bills... and despite all the bitching you are going to buy their game. THE END.

Thank You. 👍


Let's see how many minds you enlighten, and who stays ignorant.

 

[Gejost]

I mean GAWD DAMN, 60fps, 200mph done the RING's straight at night... tell me that doesn't get you excited.

Add some online friends who drive better than the AI, and you've got the most epic racing experience to date.

Add more than 200 premium cars that you can tune/customize to your hearts content, and you've got the most epic racing experience to date.

Add PS3 1080p (Almost) graphics, and you've got the most epic racing experience to date.

Add the most meticulously modeled vehicles, best lighting system, severely improved physics, weather, 800 additional standard vehicles, photo-mode, the redbull X1, coarse creator, damage... Kaz's and his teams passion... and you've got the most epic racing experience to date.

Do any of you have jobs? Do you know what it takes to accomplish something this monumental? Sure, there could be more... and there will be in GT6. FOR NOW, GT5 STANDS ALONE AMONG RACING SIMS.

Enjoy it for what it is. Why raise you blood pressure over something that you have no control over. None of you work at PD, none of you are making the decisions, Sony isn't your personal play toy. You are there's. You pay their bills... and despite all the bitching you are going to buy their game. THE END.

Powerful ending.

 

[Foxiol]

So how many racing games this generation have more tracks than GT5?

a lot...
and it doesn´t care nothing to me...GT5 is the best in all ways.

 

[Foxiol]

dr boss is the boss...yeah i was thinking the same...some things i dislike for this but WTH? it is the best game with or without it.

 

[DarthTurismo]

Please don't jump down my throat or anything.... but do we have rain confirmed for the ring and le man when playing an endurance (along with the changing time!) or just day/night?

Also Kaz mentioned that we should never take the time/weather on face value when selecting a track... does that only apply to those tracks that have dynamic weather ie: HSR (high speed ring) etc (which has sunny & rain) or is there an outside chance some of the tracks we don't expect weather/change of day could very well have it when you least expect it?? i think it's more likely the former but would be interested on other ppls view :-)

 

[Sum1s2pid]

Thank You. 👍


Let's see how many minds you enlighten, and who stays ignorant.

Judging by what we've seen, not enough of the former and too much of the latter. There's too much focus on what's missing instead of what we're getting. We're missing a little here and there. We're getting a lot.

Sumfucius say: Squeaky wheel not alway get grease. Sometime, get booger in salad.