America - The Official Thread

  • Thread starter ///M-Spec
  • 38,707 comments
  • 1,595,339 views
I think that last part is relatively recent. The target here has never had critical thinking skills, but they've been over-estimated for decades. In recent years, Republicans, especially under Trump, have begun to realize just how ridiculous their claims can get.
Have they? I'm not so sure of that.
 
Putin certainly got his money's worth out of Madison. For about an hour at least:
WRAL News
On Thursday afternoon, one hour after WRAL reported the comments, Cawthorn appeared to backtrack his remarks, saying on Twitter that Russian President Vladimir Putin's actions are "disgusting."

"I am praying for Ukraine and the Ukrainian people," he added.
 
Last edited:

This is modern conservatism in a nutshell. Cawthorn and his ilk think that being "woke", that is, aware of and actively attentive to important facts and issues, especially issues of racial and social justice, is "corruption." Any attempt at improving society somewhat is seen as an attack on society and needs to be beat down, no matter how and no matter the cost.
 
This is modern conservatism in a nutshell. Cawthorn and his ilk think that being "woke", that is, aware of and actively attentive to important facts and issues, especially issues of racial and social justice, is "corruption." Any attempt at improving society somewhat is seen as an attack on society and needs to be beat down, no matter how and no matter the cost.
Gay marriage rights were "woke", civil rights were "woke", granting women the right to vote was "woke", the 15th amendment was "woke", etc., etc. Their fascination with that term astonishes me. They're so obsessed with rolling this country back to a previous time that they can't see that wasn't a good place for everyone.
 
Putin certainly got his money's worth out of Madison. For about an hour at least:
Nah, send him back to Russia. Maybe he can find another casino where he'll meet someone who will introduce him to his next honeypot.
 
Any attempt at improving society somewhat is seen as an attack on society and needs to be beat down, no matter how and no matter the cost.
Improving society would imply that it's not perfect now and needs to be changed. It's hyper-conservatism, everything is absolutely fine and anyone who would even think about changing it is a dangerous psychopath.

Seems like the sort of thing the British Empire would have said before the American Revolution.
 
Last edited:
Gay marriage rights were "woke", civil rights were "woke", granting women the right to vote was "woke", the 15th amendment was "woke", etc., etc. Their fascination with that term astonishes me. They're so obsessed with rolling this country back to a previous time that they can't see that wasn't a good place for everyone.
I dunno if these conservatives actually think about others or think at all. Most simply can't stand change of any kind cause it's taken as a direct blow to the ego.
 
Last edited:
5C0E2BE5-16C5-4E21-BE08-ACD29EA32267.png
 
Lindsey Graham: "I guess what I'm getting at is I'm a whiny little bitch."



Edit: Holy crap. So he went from not understanding (seemingly deliberately, as if in malicious ignorance) that legal representatives work on behalf of parties that hold views that the representatives may not hold, and asserting that submitting a legal brief in her capacity as representative of a number of groups made her a de facto signatory to said brief, to again crying like a little bitch about another somebody else and how people who supported Brown Jackson opposed that somebody else, to finally throwing a tantrum before chair Durbin about Guantanamo Bay detainees (the detainment of whom the aforementioned legal brief concerned) before finally storming out of the hearing.



:lol:

Amazing.
 
Last edited:
I desperately want Sheldon Whitehouse to show a pie chart of his favorite bars and a bar graph of his favorite pies.

Edit: Even better...

M5czXOW6XrivYmyWeGw-_bYl6HITmKYPBk72OLFVolE.jpg
 
Last edited:
Bracing for stupidity as Ted Cruz is up next.

Edit: She's being too polite. She should stop letting the rat ****er interrupt her like she's an airport employee in Bozeman, Montana.
 
Last edited:
I feel like some of these senators lost the plot. Critical Race Theory doesn't have much to do with the Supreme Court. Some of these people asking questions just need to come out and be upfront by saying "we don't think you're qualified because you're a black woman." There are legitimate things to press Jackson on and I think questioning around how she's handled previous cases and sentenced them is fair game. Even Graham's questions surrounding Guantanamo detainees were within bounds and something that should be asked so Jackson has an appropriate chance to respond.

It's also super annoying that Republicans continue to get hung up on abortion and same-sex marriage. I mean I get it, they need to appear strong on that so they can grift money from people who've been forced fed those beliefs by white American Jesus, but come on, there's got to be more pressing issues going on.
 
Critical Race Theory doesn't have much to do with the Supreme Court. Some of these people asking questions just need to come out and be upfront by saying "we don't think you're qualified because you're a black woman."
I think this is reasonable, but I should say that Cruz is likely a prospective presidential candidate and he feels he needs to throw out some red meat. CRT is the reddest of meat with his idiot base.
There are legitimate things to press Jackson on and I think questioning around how she's handled previous cases and sentenced them is fair game. Even Graham's questions surrounding Guantanamo detainees were within bounds and something that should be asked so Jackson has an appropriate chance to respond.
Of course this should be done in good faith, and they just can't do that. Jackson wasn't able to respond to a lot of what Cruz was saying, specifically about sentences she's levied against non-production child pornography offenders (sucking some of the wind out of Hawley's sails), until Chris Coons' time.

I appreciated Ben Sasse's time with her most. I thought we got the best sense of what Justice Jackson might look like.
 
I'm just gonna leave this here...



...and add that Jackson held her own spectacularly, but that's largely a credit to Hawley, while engaging entirely in bad faith, not being the ****ing asshole that Cruz is and he actually gave her the opportunity to respond without interrupting.
 
Last edited:
Because the Jackson confirmation hearing isn't the only thing going on in the country today...

How it started:



How it's going:

 
Because the Jackson confirmation hearing isn't the only thing going on in the country today...

How it started:



How it's going:


I wish he would be specific that the constitution (equal protection) prohibits arbitrary discrimination of (not just) race in the law. But people can still discriminate and be racist legally. I think that's what he meant to say... which completely contradicts his previous statement that states should be allowed to ban interracial marriage legally.
 
In your opinion, what are the more pressing issues?
Out-of-control spending, bad immigration policies, poor infrastructure, a justice system that violates Amendments 4 through 8, ingrained lobbyists, the creep towards authoritarianism, the limiting of the electoral process, corruption, and foreign policy, especially when it comes to Russia and China.

On a lower level, out of control inflation, unsustainable cost of housing, an awful government-funded healthcare plan, and social security that has my generation paying for older generations when it's likely social security won't be available for me.
 
Out-of-control spending, bad immigration policies, poor infrastructure, a justice system that violates Amendments 4 through 8, ingrained lobbyists, the creep towards authoritarianism, the limiting of the electoral process, corruption, and foreign policy, especially when it comes to Russia and China.

On a lower level, out of control inflation, unsustainable cost of housing, an awful government-funded healthcare plan, and social security that has my generation paying for older generations when it's likely social security won't be available for me.
A worthy list! I see global warming, pandemic and homelessness failed to make the list, so some progress - or maybe omissions - in the picture.
 
The crucial point to understand about American politics, in my opinion, is how shamelessly undemocratic it is. Many Americans fail to understand this - I would say, because of the immense power of the propaganda machine of the state.

Hot take, America is factually not really that more democratic than China or Russia. The average American has way more individual liberties than the average Chinese or Russian, that's undeniable. But he also has minimal influence on the affairs of the government - the DNC and the GOP play a very-effective "Good cop, Bad cop" routine that locks the country into some perpetual culture war, while they have share a consensus in corporate welfare, foreign interventionism, legalising political bribery & mass surveillance. The ballot box won't change America anytime soon.
 
Last edited:
A worthy list! I see global warming, pandemic and homelessness failed to make the list, so some progress - or maybe omissions - in the picture.
I'm not really sure what the federal government can do with regard to global warming. It's certainly a problem and one that will very well end up causing problems in my lifetime, but until countries like China and India get on board with fixing it, there's not much we can really do except mitigate the effects. This is where infrastructure would come in. We need flood control, dams, and ways to reroute water to population centers in now arid areas. We also need roads, bridges, etc. that can withstand more extreme weather events too.

While the pandemic is certainly a big issue, the ship has sailed on that and it's fruitless for the federal government to attempt to do anything about it. The CDC isn't exactly inspiring either since they are incredibly unclear about what people should do. Honestly, I'd rather have an NGO that isn't influenced by a certain country work at mitigating future pandemics. Either that or remove China's influence over the WHO.

And with homelessness, there's not much the federal government can do here either. It's a problem and one that causes certain areas a big headache. We have an awful homeless problem in Salt Lake but throwing money at the situation isn't helping.
The crucial point to understand about American politics, in my opinion, is how shamelessly undemocratic it is. Many Americans fail to understand this - I would say, because of the immense power of the propaganda machine of the state.
America isn't set up to be democratic, it's set up to be a representative republic, which does include some democracy.
Hot take, America is factually not really that more democratic than China or Russia. The average American has way more individual liberties than the average Chinese or Russian, that's undeniable. But he also has minimal influence on the affairs of the government - the DNC and the GOP play a very-effective "Good cop, Bad cop" routine that locks the country into some perpetual culture war, while they have share a consensus in corporate welfare, foreign interventionism, legalising political bribery & mass surveillance. The ballot boxwon't change America anytime soon.
That's not really correct. America has way more freedoms than places like China or Russia, especially the current state of Russia. We still pick our leader through an election, but at the federal level, the average person isn't affected that much. At the state and local level though, the politicians can and do have a huge impact on your life. They also listen to their constituents more too since they're actually local instead of being in DC.
 
Back