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There's the supremacy clause but there's also Arizona v USA from 2012.
Right. One of many SCOTUS decisions which recognized ultimate authority of the federal government with regard to border enforcement.
 
Abbott, Patrick, & Paxton need to be shipped off out of the US.
They'd only waltz back in anyway in through "Biden's" revolving door. Perhaps helicoptering them out a few miles and dropping them in the ocean would help make America great again.
 
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They'd only waltz back in anyway in through "Biden's" revolving door. Perhaps helicoptering them out a few miles and dropping them in the ocean would help make America great again.
Won't work. They know how to swim.
 
So when does the openly treasonous rat get hanged and can the noose get mic'd and the sound of its neck snapping as the rope goes tight be broadcast?
 
So when does the openly treasonous rat get hanged and can the noose get mic'd and the sound of its neck snapping as the rope goes tight be broadcast?
Is he even allowed to do that? Pretty sure unless he's president anything he says is meaningless when it comes to calling for things.
 
Is he even allowed to do that? Pretty sure unless he's president anything he says is meaningless when it comes to calling for things.
I mean what is "allowed"? This is advocacy--even if advocacy for rebellion--rather than a military command (however empty it may be), and as such shouldn't be subject to penalty or prosecution by the state.
 
So when does the openly treasonous rat get hanged and can the noose get mic'd and the sound of its neck snapping as the rope goes tight be broadcast?
Does Abbott get involved in that? Bc he aided these “invaders” by bussing them further into the US.

Sounds like a traitor to me.
 
Does Abbott get involved in that? Bc he aided these “invaders” by bussing them further into the US.

Sounds like a traitor to me.
Let it happen. The more he breaks the big-boy rules the harder he gets arrested after leaving office. Funnt thing is, if that were to actually happen, arresting the people responsible for Texas's shenanigans after they leave office, everybody still in office will know what's coming.
 
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So when does the openly treasonous rat get hanged and can the noose get mic'd and the sound of its neck snapping as the rope goes tight be broadcast?
Call in the National Guard? You mean like how he didn't when people were trying to overthrow the government?

Yeah, we know why he didn't but you know what I mean; didn't do it then when it should have been, wants it done now when it shouldn't be.
 
Only if y’all are willing to relocate the rest of us. I’m not picky; I’ll take somewhere out west.
I struggle to see a better place for sane Texans to go to than Colorado. Denver reminds me quite a bit of Dallas and Boulder reminds me of a mini Austin. Cost of living is comparable, outdoor opportunities are way more plentiful and you don't melt into a puddle of goo in the summer. @Danoff will welcome you.
 
Conservatives are going to donate more to Trump to cover (almost certainly with considerable surplus) the $83.3 million what the rat now has to pay for defaming E. Jean Carroll for whose rape it was found civilly liable, which is sure to exceed the figure conservatives donated to relief efforts following Hurricane Michael in 2018...making the conservative bitchfit over the latter, specifically as compared to relief efforts following previous disasters, look very, very silly.
 
Conservatives are going to donate more to Trump to cover (almost certainly with considerable surplus) the $83.3 million what the rat now has to pay for defaming E. Jean Carroll for whose rape it was found civilly liable, which is sure to exceed the figure conservatives donated to relief efforts following Hurricane Michael in 2018...making the conservative bitchfit over the latter, specifically as compared to relief efforts following previous disasters, look very, very silly.
Why isn't Trump being told to pull himself up by his boot straps?

I was told you shouldn't give money away to people who put themselves into their own situations.
 
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Is that not like against some sort of campaign finance laws?
I expect there are just so many who will give to their god-king outright without any expectation of it funding a political campaign.
 
The next 9/11 must be already in preparation, hard to believe Palestinian militant groups would miss this opportunity of getting into the US through the backdoor with little resistance, don't even call that border enforcement. Soon you'll see not only Mexicans but people from all over the world, actually I believe I saw on the news that Chinese were caught crossing?:lol:
 
The next 9/11 must be already in preparation, hard to believe Palestinian militant groups would miss this opportunity of getting into the US through the backdoor with little resistance, don't even call that border enforcement. Soon you'll see not only Mexicans but people from all over the world, actually I believe I saw on the news that Chinese were caught crossing?:lol:
You don't think the government is considering all of this?
 
Huh. Weird.

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Nativist parasites.
 
The next 9/11 must be already in preparation, hard to believe Palestinian militant groups would miss this opportunity of getting into the US through the backdoor with little resistance, don't even call that border enforcement. Soon you'll see not only Mexicans but people from all over the world, actually I believe I saw on the news that Chinese were caught crossing?:lol:
The next 9/11 has been in preparation since the day after 9/11. Fortunately, most countries have reasonably robust anti-terror units that do a good job of detecting and preventing these things.

An open border would make little difference to the likelihood of a major terrorist attack. There are much greater barriers to pulling off such an attack than getting an agent into the target country.
 
The next 9/11 has been in preparation since the day after 9/11. Fortunately, most countries have reasonably robust anti-terror units that do a good job of detecting and preventing these things.

An open border would make little difference to the likelihood of a major terrorist attack. There are much greater barriers to pulling off such an attack than getting an agent into the target country.
Robust you say? they've been doing several attacks across the world after 9/11, there's a pretty big list and some of these terrorists were in watch lists too.
Spain alone https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_in_Spain the most deadly of the last 2 decades happened in 2004 and 2017 killing 192 and 24 people respectively(that's big for a small country in Europe), last one (documented at least) in 2023 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algeciras_church_attacks
France got a much higher number of terror attacks than Spain and it's a more resourceful country too, what's happening there?
Saying an open border makes little difference is just on another level of absurd even more so after what happened so quickly in Israel months ago, despite their intelligence capabilities and security, would've been far worse if they had some open border policy I'd argue!
It all comes down to common sense, why do our homes even have doors for? lol
 
Robust you say? they've been doing several attacks across the world after 9/11, there's a pretty big list and some of these terrorists were in watch lists too.
Spain alone https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_in_Spain the most deadly of the last 2 decades happened in 2004 and 2017 killing 192 and 24 people respectively(that's big for a small country in Europe), last one (documented at least) in 2023 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algeciras_church_attacks
France got a much higher number of terror attacks than Spain and it's a more resourceful country too, what's happening there?
Saying an open border makes little difference is just on another level of absurd even more so after what happened so quickly in Israel months ago, despite their intelligence capabilities and security, would've been far worse if they had some open border policy I'd argue!
It all comes down to common sense, why do our homes even have doors for? lol
I'd say this is "reasonably robust":

 
Robust you say? they've been doing several attacks across the world after 9/11, there's a pretty big list and some of these terrorists were in watch lists too.
Spain alone https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_in_Spain the most deadly of the last 2 decades happened in 2004 and 2017 killing 192 and 24 people respectively(that's big for a small country in Europe)
Rather than the most deadly ones, those two are actually the only ones in the last two decades. So technically they are also the least deadly ones.
That sounds more like a case of mental illness than international terrorism.
 
Robust you say? they've been doing several attacks across the world after 9/11, there's a pretty big list and some of these terrorists were in watch lists too.
Spain alone https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_in_Spain the most deadly of the last 2 decades happened in 2004 and 2017 killing 192 and 24 people respectively(that's big for a small country in Europe), last one (documented at least) in 2023 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algeciras_church_attacks
France got a much higher number of terror attacks than Spain and it's a more resourceful country too, what's happening there?
Saying an open border makes little difference is just on another level of absurd even more so after what happened so quickly in Israel months ago, despite their intelligence capabilities and security, would've been far worse if they had some open border policy I'd argue!
It all comes down to common sense, why do our homes even have doors for? lol
Have you also been counting the ones that were stopped? Because it's the proportion that get through that determines whether the protections are robust, not the absolute number.

If you're trying to stop cats getting into your house, a door is a wonderful thing. If you're trying to stop a SWAT team, a door is basically irrelevant. There is no door in the world that will stop a SWAT team from getting into your house, at best you'll force them to find another way in.

Border protections have their uses if your intention is to prevent individuals or small groups with limited resources and motivation from entering. If you're trying to stop a group that is at the level of Al Qaeda with serious funding, training and supply lines, then border protections are at best a mild inconvenience to those people. Al Qaeda and ISIS were functionally military forces, and nobody thinks that better border protection would have kept Russia out of Ukraine. If you wanted to actually slow down a group like that there are better things to focus on.
 
Huh. Weird.

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The biggest misconception in all of this, is that both sides of the isle “actually” want to solve the problem. Illegal immigration is beneficial to both parties. Although, like I said a year or more ago in this thread, it’s “advantage-democrats” right now….because them letting illegals in by the droves, insures a healthy voting base for years to come. The Dems are in charge right now…and it’s SMART for them to allow this. Fair game.



For perspective, here’s a shot of a coyote outpost that I’ve photographed many times over the past 8 years since I moved down to San Diego

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In my riding/surfing group. There’s a few Cops, FBI dudes, Airforce and Marines higher-ups as well as a few border patrol agents (from both sides of the border, mind you).

I asked a few of them last year about this particular post…and they all said they weren’t worried about it, and were well aware of this one, and many other like it. Basically, anyone who comes to a post that is tho hard to get to, is generally in this country for the right reasons.

But rather, it’s recent…within the last 2-3 years, that the border has gotten really bad, and all of the bad things that come with illegal immigration, has showed itself in spades in inner cities across America.

Whats broken is nothing new. It’s our immigration system. And like many countries that Socialists like to tote as “societal havens”, I too agree that immigration to America should be “merit-based”, to a ‘liberal’ extent. As someone that’s married to an immigrant, 10 years seems too long for someone to earn status in the United States. But as most Asian immigrants will tell you, the blatant legalization of illegal border crossings, cheapens what they had to go through. Same could said for how the Blacks, and Mexican immigrants - (-from 2-3 generations ago) feel too.









….most importantly, it is an election year after all, so let’s not pretend like all of the respective sides of illegal immigration aren’t getting ramped up by accident
 
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