America - The Official Thread

[Pillo-san]

We give plenty, all sorts of favor in these silly trade pacts, in fact we defend Saudi Arabia for instance, now that is a pretty penny, lives for oil. The truth is we don't want the pacts anymore, why do you think Trump is in office?

How dare the U.S. protect it's interests and listen to it's people, it's so crazy I know when all these other countries know better for us. We learned from our struggle for independance to get away from that sort of thing only to see it slowly creep back in.

Looks to me like Trump is ready to go back and to me it's great, 1000% great. Seriously though I love the fact people are getting butt hurt. This is 'Murica!


Yes we can, and we are.

You learned from your struggle for independence? Say what? how did you learn and what? Where you or any one else in USA alive back then?

Come one. You have learned nothing. No one has, we all pretty much repeat mistakes all the time, why do you think there are so many armed conflicts and which country is in them all the time if not USA.

If Saudi Arabia change it currency then there will probably be no more SA but until that happens SA will probably be one of USA closest allies.

I for one would drop the support of SA instantly if I was president of USA as the country does not share the same "philosophy" of how a country and its people should live. But As long as the cheap oil is flowing in to US nothing will happen. So could anyone fill my in on how the legal process against SA involvement in the 9/11 is going? Why is USA not parading over to SA over this? Taking over Irak on false claims is ok but not SA?

 

[xyloscissor]

You have learned nothing

Perhaps you are the one who hasn't learned anything. Of course we have learned from past struggles, it's handed down from generation to generation sometimes even with the help of our education system.

Go team U.S.A.

As for the oil bit...

Why do you think we are building a pipeline? There are many liberals who say things like "no blood for oil" that is great until you also realize they say "don't dare drill for oil anywhere in the U.S." It's almost as if they want the country to fail but then you come to an even greater realization, they have no grasp of reality and think we'll just pull magic cars out of our ass, our houses will be heated and lit, the internet will stay on, and all that. Zero carbon footprint lol.

 

[andrea]

 

[prisonermonkeys]

There's a potent thought.

I was thinking more in the sense that they can go back to the way it was, or they can be a world leader. But they can't be both.

 

[Liquid]

I think fixing the water in Flint is a bigger federal priority.

 

[prisonermonkeys]

China warns Trump not to get involved in the South China Sea:

http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2017-...o-stay-out-of-south-china-sea-dispute/8212246

 

[Com Fox]

On the positive side, he wants something done about the disastrous city.

On the downside, doesn't it seem a little extreme?

 

[Dotini]

I was thinking more in the sense that they can go back to the way it was, or they can be a world leader. But they can't be both.

Okay. My thoughts are that it's not really possible ever to go back by design. The world moves on and evolves over time, and can go back only through catastrophe - like when a civilization collapses.

The other thought is that the US can only be a world leader through example. The day when we ran the world through violence, gunpoint and serial regime change are done and gone as far as I'm concerned, and The Donald seems to be in agreement on this score.

 

[andrea]

On the positive side, he wants something done about the disastrous city.

On the downside, doesn't it seem a little extreme?

Apparently, Bill O'Reilly suggested the same thing one hour before Trump tweet. Lol

 

[Northstar]

On the downside, doesn't it seem a little extreme?

When websites like this can exist and hourly updates are needed to keep it up to date, no.

Apparently, Bill O'Reilly suggested the same thing one hour before Trump tweet. Lol

Yes, the president watching tv, so hilarious.

 

[andrea]

When websites like this can exist and hourly updates are needed to keep it up to date, no.



Yes, the president watching tv, so hilarious.

Fox News in the White House making laws and policy discussion. Wonderful.

 

[andrea]

Trump administration tells EPA to cut climate change from website

U.S. President Donald Trump's administration has instructed the Environmental Protection Agency to remove the climate change page from its website, two agency employees told Reuters, the latest move by the newly minted leadership to erase ex-President Barack Obama's climate change initiatives.

The employees were notified by EPA officials on Tuesday that the administration had instructed EPA's communications team to remove the website's climate change page, which contains links to scientific global warming research, as well as detailed data on emissions. The page could go down as early as Wednesday, the sources said.

"If the website goes dark, years of work we have done on climate change will disappear," one of the EPA staffers told Reuters, who added some employees were scrambling to save some of the information housed on the website, or convince the Trump administration to preserve parts of it.

Source: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...sticNews&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter

 

[Com Fox]

I hope you Americans have studied up on Attack on Titan, you'll need it when the Mexicans break down the wall.

 

[Dennisch]

I think fixing the water in Flint is a bigger federal priority.

Already being handled.

 

[UKMikey]

Oh, I think I know the answer to this one - don't click or whine if you don't like it! Or something 

The odd thing is that the KKK post that @waboo complained about was posted by someone whose comments so far haven't been anti Trump. The post was liked by leftist and rightist posters alike. That's the difference between humour and attack posts that call people out for being lunatics. Biased moderation, my bum.

 

[McLaren]

On the positive side, he wants something done about the disastrous city.

On the downside, doesn't it seem a little extreme?

It ain't nicknamed Ch-iraq for nothing.

 

[xyloscissor]

No Donald don't send in the Feds!

This would be the perfect time for Obama to get back to grassroots and put all that good education to work, I'm not joking either. He's said he is not going to stop building on what the U.S. has accomplished with him. Here is a nice article about those days which seem very important to him.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/07/us/politics/07community.html

 

[Pako]

Can you let me know the locations of these know UK Muslim refugee hit zones the police fear so much.

Will it change your stance on open imagration laws and refugee open border policies if I do?

 

[Joel]

Schrodinger's Europe: "Culturally homogenous" when explaining why the richest country in human history can't afford universal health care. Overrun by Muslim no-go zones and Sharia law when defending American immigration policies.

 

[huskeR32]

People still hold white people responsible for slavery even though no living white person in the U.S. has legally owned a slave, so why is that any different?

I don't advocate that viewpoint, so why are you asking me?

Though, just for giggles, if I were to address that weak comparison, I'd point out that white people haven't slowly turned black since slavery (and vice-versa).

White people are still white. The Democrats of the KKK aren't the Democrats of today.

 

[ryzno]

The Dow Jones passed 20,000 this morning.

 

[Danoff]

The Dow Jones passed 20,000 this morning.

I feel like you're trying to make a point about something...

 

[Scaff]

Will it change your stance on open imagration laws and refugee open border policies if I do?

It might, but I'm more interested to know about the existence of something I have never seen in a country I have traveled the length and breadth of.

Oh and the UK doesn't have fully open immigration laws (the EU yes, but not to the same degree as the rest of Europe - the rest of the world not at all) or an open border approach to refugees either.

 

[ryzno]

I feel like you're trying to make a point about something...

I thought it was a historic mark for the market. Has it hit 20k before?

 

[samurai8juice]

But Germany and Japan (arguably) make better cars designed for a global market, while a higher proportion of US cars are more appropriate for the US domestic market (though I am far from an expert on this, that's just the way I see it). If the US wants to export more cars to Germany, it needs to make better cars.

To further back this statement up, it's not just the quality of cars, it's population. We have a population of 320 million, while Japan and Germany combined have populations of 210 million; they have absolutely no need for our cars, especially when they're mass producing their own.

The Dow Jones passed 20,000 this morning.

Who knows, it could be a sign. In October 2007, the Dow hit an all time high of 14000, a year later there was a global financial crisis.

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On another note, I was going to post something that shows how we are the most fiscally irresponsible nation, with the amount of household debt we have. Turns out, we aren't the leader for that.

 

[Danoff]

I thought it was a historic mark for the market. Has it hit 20k before?

Ok, just checking. Thought this was probably a "look what a great job Trump is doing" kind of post. Yea, markets are supper inflated at the moment.

On another note, I was going to post something that shows how we are the most fiscally irresponsible nation, with the amount of household debt we have. Turns out, we aren't the leader for that.

It says the primary debt source is housing, and that the average for the US is 113%? of disposable income. I'm not actually sure what that means. I read their synopsis and I still don't know what it means. This is why I hate these kinds of reports, it's so hard to figure out what the chart is telling you. As best I can tell this one is saying the Denmark has expensive real-estate.

 

[Biggles]

For the much worse.

People like yourself really seem to believe the world was better in 1776. In the US, if you were in the small minority of white, rich, landowning male, maybe things were better. If you were were a woman, you had no right to vote & few legal rights, if you were poor your life was insecure, hard & likely short, if you were a "native American" you were about to lose your land, language & culture, & if you were black ... well you were enslaved. How was that better?

And things in the rest of the world were, for the most part, worse.

This is the crux of the problem: if you don't have a realistic view of the past & you don't have a realistic view of the present, how can you have a realistic view of how to move forward?

 

[IforceV8]

The park service has gone rogue against comrade drumpf https://twitter.com/AltNatParkSer

 

[Liquid]

Don't worry, he'll get Bill Gates to turn the internet off if too many people ignore his rules.

 

[Pako]

It might, but I'm more interested to know about the existence of something I have never seen in a country I have traveled the length and breadth of.

Oh and the UK doesn't have fully open immigration laws (the EU yes, but not to the same degree as the rest of Europe - the rest of the world not at all) or an open border approach to refugees either.

The name of the town in Switzerland escapes me. It was a reporter that Sean Hanity interviewed on his podcast a couple weeks ago. The reporter shared his story as the authorities warned about going to a certain area that they avoid because of the opposition they received. He went anyways and ended up getting mugged. You can hear his whole first hand account if you like.