America - The Official Thread

[Com Fox]

Who did disturb the peace in middle east.... shame, shame. Like I said a couple sides earlier, USA have learnt nothing, just repeating the same mistakes all over again. Vietnam not so long ago and now Irak/middle east. USA should take its responsibility and shelter every refugee from the region with out question. Why should rest of the world like Europe shoulder the responsibility?

It's kind of impossible now to "take responsibility" and just take refugees freely without question whatsoever. Germany tried that and look where they're at now.

 

[Northstar]

Why should rest of the world like Europe shoulder the responsibility?

The U.S. may have been team captain, but the Iraq cluster-f was truly a group effort.

Its invalid and i just told you why, you would have to split up other parts of the debt to work that out rather then putting it all into one catagory.

Fair enough.

 

[Pillo-san]

Complains everyone in the USA should give one dollar to help their fellow man, next post brags that every county has the same opportunities to become rich. So err, why do we need to all pitch in again if it's so simple as flipping houses?

Y'all discussing a topic with someone who has zero grasp on life in the US. Talking down to 1 person for not helping poor people whilst bringing up in another post how he invested his money in track toys. For someone so caring about his fellow man, one def seems to have no problem throwing money away on cars.

Because I do not need to give alms to the less fortunate. Everything I buy, or every pay check I get I contribute to the well being of those in my country and abroad. And if I want I can give to charity's, but no I cant deduct the tax on the sum I give. What I give I give without some ulterior motive like a tax-cut.

Do you think I do not give to red cross or green peace? Of course I do, If I have money to own toys I can give to charities even I pay tax, that is only natural.

 

[xyloscissor]

It's kind of impossible now to "take responsibility" and just take refugees freely without question whatsoever. Germany tried that and look where they're at now.

The U.S. is not responsible alone anyway, but I will say the biggest mistake was leaving a void in Iraq and not handling Syria better. Left and Right both in the U.S. along with allied countries, we've made a mess that is for sure.

I think if the west could set aside differences with Russia we could nip this deal in the butt and allow the people in that area a stable government, it will cost a fortune and take many years but it makes more sense to me than taking in mass immigration.

What do I know, I'm some fool who only cares for himself

 

[McLaren]

Because I do not need to give alms to the less fortunate. Everything I buy, or every pay check I get I contribute to the well being of those in my country and abroad. And if I want I can give to charity's, but no I cant deduct the tax on the sum I give. What I give I give without some ulterior motive like a tax-cut.

Do you think I do not give to red cross or green peace? Of course I do, If I have money to have toys I can give even I pay tax, that is only natural.

So why are you talking as if no American does the same? You've shown already you don't have a grasp on our welfare system.

 

[AnthonyD1993]

Complains everyone in the USA should give one dollar to help their fellow man, next post brags that every county has the same opportunities to become rich. So err, why do we need to all pitch in again if it's so simple as flipping houses?

Y'all discussing a topic with someone who has zero grasp on life in the US. Talking down to 1 person for not helping poor people whilst bringing up in another post how he invested his money in track toys. For someone so caring about his fellow man, one def seems to have no problem throwing money away on cars.

Never mind the fact that I twice brought up the fact that a member he was talking down to for "not caring about others" actually helped someone who was down on their luck and he ignored it both times.

 

[Pillo-san]

So why are you talking as if no American does the same? You've shown already you don't have a grasp on our welfare system.

All I am saying is that USA would have it so much better if they just copied some of our stuff and not discard it as "socialism" when it is clear noone(no American) here seems know anything about our situation at all.

 

[xyloscissor]

All I am saying is that USA would have it so much better if they just copied some of our stuff and not discard it as "socialism" when it is clear noone(no American) here seems know anything about our situation at all.

Who cares about your situation? This is the America thread the last time I checked. Works for you good, spam your ideals on us? Not so good.

And btw it is odd that I have asked you at least three clear questions that you refuse to answer.

 

[Joey D]

All I am saying is that USA would have it so much better if they just copied some of our stuff and not discard it as "socialism" when it is clear noone(no American) here seems know anything about our situation at all.

Have you ever lived in the US for any extended period of time?

 

[Pillo-san]

It seems you care about situation around you in the wide world as you clearly states that USA is best of all and have most freedom when people clearly have not.

What questions have I missed? I think I gave you all the anwsers... I even said I would not say anthing here yet I did


No, just visited my family when I was smaller. Is it not enough to hear my cousins complain all the time. Act

 

[Joey D]

No, just visited my family when I was smaller.

Then how could you possibly know what would work for us or what would make our country better? What are you basing it on? If you're basing it on your own country, it's already flawed logic. No two places are going to be the same and what works for one country doesn't work for another (which is one reason I'm against US intervention in most conflicts).

 

[xyloscissor]

What questions have I missed? I think I gave you all the anwsers... I even said I would not say anthing here yet I did

No, just visited my family when I was smaller.

In reverse or some sort of order, do you live in a country affected by WWII? Where does the medical technology your system uses came from the most? I asked you a few others but clear answers to these would be a good start, where do you live?

 

[Pillo-san]

Because, the world watches USA.

It was red army that freed one of my home country...
The other has been "neutral"

 

[05XR8]

Can we all just get along?

 

[xyloscissor]

Because, the world watches USA.

Yeah but we suck so much, who cares?

 

[Joey D]

Because, the world watches USA.

Through the eyes of biased media and second hand accounts. You also look at it from a ethnocentric view point, which doesn't work, especially if you're trying to tell us what should be better.

 

[xyloscissor]

Wanna go back to illegal immigration? Most likely not because all people are people or some sort but I find this guy worth a watch most of the time.

 

[Pillo-san]

Yeah but we suck so much, who cares?

No one is hating USA, not in Europe. Like I said before, most of us thinks America is pretty cool but with some aspects that seems a bit to old fashioned.
And we think it is funny when American people think they live in the best country in the world.
Yet they do not have what we have here.. for better or for worse.

 

[xyloscissor]

No one is hating USA, not in Europe. Like I said before, most of us thinks America is pretty cool but with some aspects that seems a bit to old fashioned.
And we think it is funny when American people think they live in the best country in the world.
Yet they do not have what we have here.. for better or for worse.

Na, at this point your words aren't much worth even responding to. Think of us funny all you want tbh we don't care, I would never ever want what you have there for better or worse. You don't answer questions, you make false accusations and make things up as you go. If that is Europe you can keep it 👍

 

[Com Fox]

No one is hating USA, not in Europe. Like I said before, most of us thinks America is pretty cool but with some aspects that seems a bit to old fashioned.
And we think it is funny when American people think they live in the best country in the world.
Yet they do not have what we have here.. for better or for worse.

Well with Germany under complete and utter chaos. England under Brexit. Australia has yet to legalize gay marriage...

Not saying America is perfect, they definitely have problems in the terms of immigration and shootings but I don't really see why people saying their country is the best is a problem? Especially since they can back it up.

 

[Carbonox]

The Trump effect. Posted yesterday about a FedEx driver that interrupted a flag burning by some left-wing radicals by ripping the flag out of their hands. Instead of getting fired, he remains an employee and FedEx has no plans to alter his employment.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/01/2...ideo-saving-old-glory-from-being-torched.html

Although this got buried under all the other arguments going on, I think this sends an important message for similar future situations, and hopefully makes other employers realize that one "controversial" incident like this going public isn't grounds for firing someone regardless of whether there's widespread backlash or disgust in social media.

 

[prisonermonkeys]

I think this sends an important message for similar future situations, and hopefully makes other employers realize that one "controversial" incident like this going public isn't grounds for firing someone

I find this statement waist-deep in irony.

First of all, all you're really doing is celebrating FedEx for observing the law. There were no grounds for firing him, and he wasn't fired.

Secondly, if he was fired, it would have been for a sackable offence. Based on the story provided, the only thing that he probably could have been fired for (if he had done it) would have been assaulting the protesters - in which case, FedEx would have been observing the law.

 

[TRGTspecialist]

The Trump effect.

Instead of getting fired, he remains an employee and FedEx has no plans to alter his employment.

For a second there, I thought you were implying that a FedEx guy not getting fired is thanks to Trump's election...........

 

[Dennisch]

And we think it is funny when American people think they live in the best country in the world.

It's called patriotism. Europeans could learn a thing or 2 from the USA about that.

 

[andrea]

http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/1/28/14424402/trump-visa-ban-iran-cancer

This is having an adverse impact on people's lives right now when 2 days ago it wouldn't have.

 

[prisonermonkeys]

It's called patriotism. Europeans could learn a thing or 2 from the USA about that.

Oscar Wilde was right - patriotism is a virtue of the vicious.

There are some people who seem to think that the only way to love your country is to love your country - that you can't love your country, but despair at the state that it's in because if you do, you're being unpatriotic.

Umberto Eco wrote that fascism is "the heel of the government on the throat of the people". One could argue that what we're seeing is a form of fascism, albeit one perpetrated by civilians rather than the government. They are, after all, trying to get people to abandon their concerns - many of which have arisen because of their values - and accept the Trump administration on the grounds that Trump got elected. But many of these concerns first arose during the election, have not been addressed, and weren't dismissed or invalidated by virtue of Trump physically taking office.

 

[05XR8]

http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/1/28/14424402/trump-visa-ban-iran-cancer

This is having an adverse impact on people's lives right now when 2 days ago it wouldn't have.

Not what I had in mind when I used to say North America should take care of our own.

 

[samurai8juice]

It's called patriotism. Europeans could learn a thing or 2 from the USA about that.

As long as it's patriotism and not nationalism.

 

[Pillo-san]

It's called patriotism. Europeans could learn a thing or 2 from the USA about that.

I would rather call it getting tricked by the "alternative facts department"

I mean there is a difference between a great country for the individuals and a great country for companies.
Pretty much every country on earth is for free market, yet it seems you have no rights in USA as a worker and more like a do it or get out(slave). ie you have the freedom to leave if it is not up to snuff. If you get fired what will happen with your health insurance? How many days off do Americans get? How many days off for taking care of their children when they are ill or how many days can you be at home when you are a new parent with a new born?

If USA was the greatest country on earth(for those that live in it) then there would not be not so hectic for the working class.

Having the greatest Military or wealthiest companies that ravage the entire world for more profit is not what I call greatest country of the world. Making wars left and right because someone have stopped using their currency when selling oil and claiming they had weapons of mass destruction and forcing the puppet states to follow... Man I respect the people and the cool culture but some aspects are just shameful.

I do not say we are much better, because we are slowly getting more and more like America. Everything seems to be short term based...If USA does not change its way no one will..

 

[prisonermonkeys]

If USA was the greatest country on earth(for those that live in it) then there would not be not so hectic for the working class.

How dare you question the story that America tells the world about itself without any objective evidence to support their claim? Obviously, you're an America-hater.