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Perhaps I phrased that to aggressively. I will rephrase that he thinks trump isnt "conservative" enough.
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Perhaps I phrased that to aggressively. I will rephrase that he thinks trump isnt "conservative" enough.
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Attitudes like this are what will lead to 4 more years of Trump.
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He emphasized exactly what I have been saying in this thread for weeks. Collusion or obstuction isnt the main focus of the report. The meddling in the election is what americans should be more worried about.
He didnt reported "no collusion" or confirmed "collusion". I guess you didnt read the report. He actually wrote that collusion isnt a crime (in law) and he wrote exactly which actions are. Starting that a sitting president cant be indicted according to the constitution and then describing the crimes (as POTUS, Trump cant be indicted for) he did do. He litterally said “If we had had confidence that the president clearly did not commit a crime, we would have said so,”. Nowhere in the report does he state Trump was innocent.
People can spin it as "no collusion, no obstruction". But Mueller clearly debunked that.
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It's more that he just said "I had nothing to do with Russia helping me get elected". Which looks like an acknowledgement that Russia did indeed help him get elected.
He should have said he had "nothing to do with any alleged Russian interference".
Edit: It's Trump. If he'd conveyed that idea instead, it would have been "so-called Russian meddling".
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Actually we came up with Hillary (about whom you could ask the same question). It's just that our weird binning strategy picked trump over what the US people came up with.
I ask that question about the entire 2016 Rep and Dem field:
Trump, Cruz, Huckabee, Paul, Christie, Fiorina, Santorum, Gilmore, Bush, Carson, Rubio, Kasich, Clinton, Sanders, and O'Malley
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Sort of a testament to:
1. Anyone can run for president if they have enough money (or clout).
2. I partially believe that the reason we haven't seen a president like this before is explicitly because we haven't really had this type of news cycle or social media.
To be fair, both sides participate in gerrymandering and remapping districts. Going with the popular vote would help the unusual situation for people who live in a "blue state" and their vote is completely negated (or vice-versa) unless they vote for a Democrat. However, it would also mean that the largest states by population would dictate who wins the election, and that may not accurately represent what leader should be elected.
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False. We know the electoral college is part of our federal system, our republic. Our founders unanimously thought democracy was a dangerous experiment, as world history shows. So instead they gave us a representative democracy of states united into a federally headed republic, with plenty of checks and balances built in. We have drifted over decades into a bad patch with an overly powerful executive branch ascendant over a weakened and damaged legislative branch.
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Perhaps so, but slavery is no more, and the true purpose of the electoral college remains to rein in the influence of the largest states over the smallest. But the most important point of all is that to change this system would require a supermajority of the states or, even more unlikely, a Constitutional Convention. To continue complaining about it is about as useful as baying at the Moon.
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Except for that a bunch of states (including yours and mine) have passed a resolution to effectively undo it without a constitutional convention.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Popular_Vote_Interstate_Compact
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I wonder what would happen if there was no real federal-level government. Keep all of the representative government state level. Each state would have a prime-representative (selected by Majority of reps in their legislative body) that would function as the chief executive of the state (no Governor). There would be a minority leader as well. Each state would send the Majority & Minority to a quasi-federal delegation of all states which would predominantly revolve around providing for national defense and other cooperative projects. Of course, I haven't really thought this through. 
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This one confuses me a bit. Collusion never seemed all that probable, it needed to be investigated based on the evidence, but it never seemed likely. Obstruction seems FAR more likely. But Mueller apparently tried hard to remind Americans that there is a bigger problem than Trump remaining in office, which is that Russia appears to have influenced the election, and might do it again.
It seems as though if you were looking for collusion and were re-double-extra-confirmed that there doesn't appear to be evidence supporting collusion, that you're looking away from what is the focus, and has been the focus for a long time now. And Trump himself seems to be happy to direct us all to look away from that focus.
