Ann. Cars Round 3 on Spa - gold without r18 ?

[Bee_Bee9]

KTM X-BOW (non AE edition)

Don't have the AE one but should be very similar, did this as a request for someone and I do like the KTM's

618PP / 543BHP / 873kg / 47:53

Racing Hard
Suspension: 75 75 / 7.43 6.74 / 3 3 / 4 3 / 4 3 / 0 0 / 0 +0.2
Brakes: 3 0
Gearing: 155mph / 3.137 / 2.239 / 1.874 / 1.563 / 1.292 / 1.067 / 2.889
Differential: 5 / 5 / 27
Body: 123kg @ -50%

The "AE" version will probably have slightly more power and slightly more weight, adjust balance to just click into 47:53 weight distribution.

Brakes adjust to you preference, I like mine to brake hard but if I hold on for that split second longer the back will start to step out and help my turning in.

It's set up with understeer, which will be noticeable in the slower corners, idea being you can add more throttle to exit quicker than trying to balance the throttle due to oversteer.

I was changing gear about 7600/7800 revs.

2nd gear is for turn 1, the tight hairpin after the long straight and final chicane, as long as you near enough straight you should be able to mash the gas as I set the differential to hold back on the power.

Racing hard tryes are a bit strange in GT6 so watch any braking and heavy acceleration if running over the rumbles.

After I was happy setting it up I ran 1 lap and clocked a 2.08.5, car was set up in free run - no aids and no SRF, abs 1, good luck.

 

[Sparko969]

I like to refer to it as chasing eels.

That's a great description!

 

[The Stig Farmer]

Just got gold after tuning over and over again, improving my times drastically. I'm not the ideal tuner but this worked for me. Use and abuse to suit your style of driving.

Viper GTS 15th AE

1- Equip ALL tuning mods, (except nitrous)
2- Suspension

RH 92 - 98
SR 13.80 - 13.30
Comp 6 - 6
Ext 7 - 6
ARB 4 - 3
Cam 2.2 - 1.0
Toe -0.42 - +0.14​

3- Brakes 6 - 3
4- Trans

Set Max Speed to 211mph
Final Gear 3.507
1st - 3.009
2nd - 2.188
3rd - 1.596
4th - 1.252
5th - 1.011
6th - 0.828​

5- LSD

5
30 - This may seem high, but it gave that extra kick out of the bends. Improved my time by over 0.5secs
5​

6- Power Limiter

Reduce limit to reach 631PP. Varies depending on oil change and mileage.​

7- Aids

Manual Transmission
Active steering - Mild/Strong (recommended)
TC - 1
ASM - on
ABS - 1
SRF - on
Sensitivity - 1 (optional)
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Normally I only use ABS set to 1 and occasionally TC at 1. Never normally use any other aids, but with this I had to bite my tongue and use them, they definitely helped.

Also, use a manual box if you can. It lets you drop gears quicker than an auto, this makes braking distances shorter if done correctly.

Finally...
I was using DS3 controller, and my final time was 2:14.612 with room for improvement.

This is the single worst driving experience I have ever had in a GT game.

Sure it's fast but by God it's dreadful.

Now I see why I run without aids...

 

[Jay.]

Just got gold after tuning over and over again, improving my times drastically. I'm not the ideal tuner but this worked for me. Use and abuse to suit your style of driving.

Viper GTS 15th AE

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Normally I only use ABS set to 1 and occasionally TC at 1. Never normally use any other aids, but with this I had to bite my tongue and use them, they definitely helped.

Also, use a manual box if you can. It lets you drop gears quicker than an auto, this makes braking distances shorter if done correctly.

Finally...
I was using DS3 controller, and my final time was 2:14.612 with room for improvement.

"Worse than default", "Crap" and "Dreadful"

Thanks for the constructive comments guys. You try to help other people out with something that worked for yourself but this is likely to be my last. Though I'm glad I was able to help some of you get gold.
This tune suits my style of driving and similar tunes/setup have helped me earn gold in EVERY event bar the shifter karts.
If a tune doesn't work for you and your style of driving, don't slam the guy that posted it.

To recap...

"Use and abuse to suit your style of driving." This implies that it's not the perfect setup for everybody, because everybody races/drives to suit their own comforts and controllers.
This tune or parts of it have already helped several people to get gold when they were previously unable to. So it is drive-able and possible to get gold.
Don't just try something for one or two laps, do many more. Learn the characteristics of ANY tune you use, and adapt and ADJUST to suit your style of driving.

Edit: @The Stig Farmer ...I also normally run without aids.

 

[Narrie82]

Finally got gold in 2:13.734!

I ended up with the following tune;

Viper GTS 15th AE

1- Equip ALL tuning mods, (except nitrous and engine tuning to stage 2)
2- Suspension
RH 85 - 95
SR 9.00 - 14.00
Comp 3 - 5
Ext 6 - 2
ARB 5 - 5
Cam 0.00 - 0.0
Toe -0.08 - +0.00
3- Brakes 7 - 3
4- Trans (Thinks these are the original settings)
Set Max Speed to 340kmh
Final Gear 3.550
1st - 3.392
2nd - 2.244
3rd - 1.622
4th - 1.230
5th - 0.980
6th - 0.820
5- LSD
7
10
17
6- Body
Weight Reduction Stage 3
7- Aids
Automatic Transmission
Active steering - Off
TC - 4
ASM - on
ABS - 1
SRF - on
Sensitivity - 1 (optional)

I used the DS3.

It's now at 630PP and actually a mix of all the tunes I found in this forum, so credits to the original tuners of course. I only changed them to my personal driving style. I'm still not really happy with the tune as I still feel it can be better and my lap was not perfect. But; at least I got gold now

 

[Uday9479]

This is the single worst driving experience I have ever had in a GT game.

Sure it's fast but by God it's dreadful.

Now I see why I run without aids...

Adding the racing brake kit made a big difference as far as braking was concerned.

I love the track but hated this TT because of the instability of the Viper.

Keeping a difference of 2 didn't help but a difference of 1 was more stable.

For eg; in 1 of the setups posted, when I had set the brakes at 8-6, the car always fishtailed, but when I set it to 8-7, the car felt incredibly stable.

 

[wudy201]

I know its a lot on driving style but I find the Viper to be a very very stable car. I had no problem doing this time trial with it (and the vette). It took a few runs to get it but its mostly(as I think for a lot of people) just not being consistant on the track. People who are less than a second from the gold I really think dont need to adjust tune, I bet its more driving related. I am slowly trying to learn how to tune a car(especially the suspension), I struggle a whole lot with this. Anyway about the time trial. I first used the vette and did a 15.9, I tried to better it but couldn't. So remembering that I had trouble with the Apricot Hill trial and easily got gold with the Viper there I used it again. I don't remember all the tune details but I used the hard pre-set suspension tune. racing brakes at 4/2 (I use that for everything) gears I use the easy slider to adjust and set at 186, I used the stock LSD and I used every engine upgrade, stage 2 weight reduction, the hood and window weight reduction. Then I adjusted the restrictor to 1000h.p and added weight pretty sure it was less than 100 mabey even 75 I can't remember exactly but I also moved it towards thr front end to minimize the amount of weight I needed to add. 2 laps and boom 14.1 and it felt quite easy. My problems were that I breaked either too early or too late going into the last 2 turns befor the finish. I always messed up the high speed lefts leading up to the last 2 turns so I could never really find a breaking point or a consistant speed I was going. But realizing I was losing all my time in the 1 turn and even more in turn 2 and 3 solved that inconsistancy. I finally got a lap where I got through turn 1 in second got to 2 in 5th gear and instead of breaking and downshifting I just lifted in fifth a kept my right side tires on the rumble strips and down shifted to 4th going into 3 and just as I got through the middle of 3 mashed it and that made up all my lost time. Honestly I never had a problem with the Viper getting loose or being unstable at all, I kind of love the car. After this I did do it in the Vette using the same tuning idea as the Viper but could only get to 14.6 or so.

 

[93732]

Hi Uday, would you mind posting your exact tune settings and what you have equiped? I am having so much trouble with the Viper AE. I have spent 4-5 hours on this TT and have it down to about 2:19:342. Somehow I still need to shave off 5 seconds

 

[Uday9479]

Hi Uday, would you mind posting your exact tune settings and what you have equiped? I am having so much trouble with the Viper AE. I have spent 4-5 hours on this TT and have it down to about 2:19:342. Somehow I still need to shave off 5 seconds

Surprised (but in a happy way) that You asked me out of all the people. That's because I'm not an expert in setting tunes.

Are You using DS3? I modded my car a lot with the Power upgrades & also added the Weight reduction Stage 1 kit which got my Viper below to 1335kg approximately.

Since You asked me, I can request You to visit page no 2 of this thread & navigate till posts #68 & #69 where Discoroo & Elwood respectively have posted setups for the Viper.

I could manage a better time with Elwood's setup, but who knows, maybe Discoroo's setup may suit You better.

Do remember to add the racing brake kit as the Viper needs it. You can also tweak the brake settings or transmission settings as per your convenience. Don't mess with the suspension settings because they are critical. Only if You know it for sure, tune the suspension settings otherwise leave them alone.

My Viper was powered at 1031Hp. Remember to be patient as this TT will test You, especially if You are in the Viper.

Add me up on PSN & last but not the least, All the Best!

 

[93732]

Uday, sorry for lack of information. I was tired from all the driving . I was using a tune from here: Chunkee_Monkey #54 and a G27 with no luck. I will try out the tunes you mentioned. Still a long way to go though...

 

[Uday9479]

Uday, sorry for lack of information. I was tired from all the driving . I was using a tune from here: Chunkee_Monkey #54 and a G27 with no luck. I will try out the tunes you mentioned. Still a long way to go though...

Try & try & You shall succeed.

1 tip from me - Be aggressive in your driving, so much as to that the lap gets red (disqualified). This way You'll realise as to how much You can extract from the car during the turns or while braking.

Spend a few laps testing the limits & when You're done, go for a clean lap. You'll be much faster.

 

[hoolio]

Uday, sorry for lack of information. I was tired from all the driving . I was using a tune from here: Chunkee_Monkey #54 and a G27 with no luck. I will try out the tunes you mentioned. Still a long way to go though...

I think it's just going to be down to practise.All the tunes posted are capable of sub 2;15's, Do you use all aids? maybe put tc 0 asm off may help,watch one of the top replays,I know it's a different car but you can note lines and speed,apart from that you just have to keep at it.

 

[Mike141]

I do not have the anniversary edition, so what car is best to get a gold for the 15th anniversary super lap? I can't find the Viper from dealerships Settings to would be nice. Thanks

 

[wudy201]

I do not have the anniversary edition, so what car is best to get a gold for the 15th anniversary super lap? I can't find the Viper from dealerships Settings to would be nice. Thanks

pretty sure if you dont have any 15th ann. cars you cant do the time trial. You can not buy the anniv. cars they were a download with preordered/certain editions that were store bought.

 

[g2010ag]

Hi Uday, would you mind posting your exact tune settings and what you have equiped? I am having so much trouble with the Viper AE. I have spent 4-5 hours on this TT and have it down to about 2:19:342. Somehow I still need to shave off 5 seconds

Have you tried the Corvette? It was much faster for me than the Viper.

 

[Dready1984]

Did this today with a stock 15th Anniversary Honda HSV. Sloopy 2:13.929 or something like that. Could easily get a couple of seconds quicker but thats all I could do on my lunch break from work.

 

[DBM]

Sure thing. To copy the other template here:

Viper GTS 15th AE

1- Equip all power mods, no nitrous.
2- Suspension
RH 100 - 110
SR 6.75 - 9.3
Comp 2 - 3
Ext 3 - 3
ARB 3 - 2
Cam 1.0 - .5
Toe -0.30 - 0
3- Brakes 8 - 6
4- Trans
Set Max Speed to 205mph
Final Gear 3.550
All standard gear ratios.
5- LSD
12
17
17
6- Power Limiter
Reduce limit to reach 631PP.
7- Aids
Manual Transmission
Active steering - Off
TC - 4
ASM - on
ABS - 1
SRF - on
Sensitivity - 1

I finally got a 2:14.305 with this as a base tune,
Changed Brakes to 6:3 and final speed to 224, TC -1, ASM-off, ABS -1, SRF -on, Sensitivity 0

 

[CBH]

I do not have the anniversary edition, so what car is best to get a gold for the 15th anniversary super lap? I can't find the Viper from dealerships Settings to would be nice. Thanks

As wudy201 said if you do not have GT6 anniversary edition cars you can not do the TT.

 

[93732]

Try & try & You shall succeed.

1 tip from me - Be aggressive in your driving, so much as to that the lap gets red (disqualified). This way You'll realise as to how much You can extract from the car during the turns or while braking.

Spend a few laps testing the limits & when You're done, go for a clean lap. You'll be much faster.

I finally broke the 2:18 barrier, just 3 more seconds to go. I just finally bought the supercharger and noticed that it gives some extra oomph in the midrange RPM so i'll have to drive the track a little differently. Does feel faster though. The combination of this track, the viper, and me driving is not a good fit. I got frustrated after a few hours, switched to the Lancia TT and got gold on my first try with the stock Lancia. Also I went to the Toyota FT-1 trial and got gold on my second try.

 

[93732]

Have you tried the Corvette? It was much faster for me than the Viper.

I tried the Stock 'vette and was a few seconds slower than the tuned Viper. It loses a lot of time on the straight-aways compared to the viper where I am hitting 200+. Thanks for the suggestion though!

 

[93732]

I noted that the on-line ranking for this seasonal ends on 1/15/14 at 1900 (depends on whatever time-zone you are in I guess), but the availability doesn't end till much later. I realize that after 1/15/14 1900, on-line rankings will not be recorded, but will I still get the credit reward?

 

[Uday9479]

I noted that the on-line ranking for this seasonal ends on 1/15/14 at 1900 (depends on whatever time-zone you are in I guess), but the availability doesn't end till much later. I realize that after 1/15/14 1900, on-line rankings will not be recorded, but will I still get the credit reward?

Yes!

But time is running out. It doesn't mean You try to power up the car to get speed. It's more important to get the braking right & be on the racing line.

Sometimes a smooth line is more beneficial than an aggressive line.

1 more tip - You can drive over the last chicane a little more than You tend to as the area over the Chicane (the green portion) can be driven over. That helps in cutting some time as well as helps in being a bit more aggressive by powering the car a bit earlier when entering the main straight.

 

[g2010ag]

I tried the Stock 'vette and was a few seconds slower than the tuned Viper. It loses a lot of time on the straight-aways compared to the viper where I am hitting 200+. Thanks for the suggestion though!

I just looked at my replay of my best lap(2:11.354) in the Corvette and I hit 209 mph top speed.

I tuned it to the max.
631 PP
864 HP
1235 KG

Posted a 2:11.354 with a minimum of effort.

My first stab at a tune, so could be more hindrance than help.

RH 100/110
SR 7.66/7.98
DC 4/3
DE 5/4
A-RB 4/4
Camb 0.8/0.2
Toe -0.03/0.20
Brakes 8/6
Max speed 217 mph
LSD 10/30/20

 

[stephan75]

Hi all, after struggling with the Viper (i got my best lap in 2.16.637) i switched to the HSV.

Maxed out turbo and lowered PP to 631. Set maximum speed to 310 kmh and added 30 on aero front and back.

Easily got 2.14.322 in two laps and lowered to 2.13.108 with five laps more.

And the HSV is really fun to drive...

 

[Uday9479]

Hi all, after struggling with the Viper (i got my best lap in 2.16.637) i switched to the HSV.

Maxed out turbo and lowered PP to 631. Set maximum speed to 310 kmh and added 30 on aero front and back.

Easily got 2.14.322 in two laps and lowered to 2.13.108 with five laps more.

And the HSV is really fun to drive...

It sure must be. I drove the Viper but didn't enjoy the handling, inspite of Spa being a low downforce track which should suit fast machines.

 

[freerideFRANK]

I just managed to gold it after about 10 laps or so using the Honda and this tune.

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/dantes-gt6-tuning-garage.292131/

Me too. With some mistakes a 1.14.862.
Only problem for me, i cant turn my transmision exactly like in this tune. How i had to do this? Wich setting u start to change at first?

 

[Sig]

How are you guys doing this?? I managed to get 2:16.8xx with the Viper after spending two days, 8 hours in total. I'm still new to the game and racing games in general. I was playing Forza 4 with the controller and just got a PS3 for GT6 with a G25. I can do all the career and license tests @ gold, and all the other big payout seasonal events, but for the life of me I can't get gold in this one.

The payout ends in 4 days, so I'm getting desperate and honestly, I'm not having fun anymore. After so much frustration I'm even considering to stop playing GT6 and sell everything. I was hoping if I practice enough and tune the car right I could get gold - but I can't. I only have the Precision pack.

I even tried cheating, going 300km/h through parking lot after the uphill and cutting across the speed bumps in the next corner, almost flying. Of course the time wouldn't count, but I only managed to get 2:16.0xx. The most annoying thing is that I am literally at the limit of the car, just haring the edge of the road (or on the curb) with every single turn to get the best time through each corner. One little mistake, I hold the brake for 0.01 seconds too short, and I go off the road. Or if I hold it for 0.01 seconds too long, I lose time. It's so hard doing this for all the corners without a mistake that I manage only one lap that counts every 10 laps I try because I'm trying to push the car more and more to get a better time.

Can anyone lend me their R18? Is this possible in GT6 like you can in Forza 4 if you are part of the same Club? Or does anyone know where I could buy a Performance or Velocity pack for the US/Canada game? I tried searching on eBay, Google, and all I could find were the Asia or European versions, or the Precision pack which I already have. 👎

I feel like taking the GT6 disc and breaking it in half!! Or maybe in the microwave would be a better display.

If I knew the anniversary edition was such a big deal that causes you to miss out on big payouts such as this, causes frustration and wasted time if you don't have it, I would've bought it. Even now it's still on eBay, albeit at $80 instead of $60 I saw. But now I can't return the game and I don't want to spend $80 just to get gold in one event. Plus it wouldn't arrive in time to finish the event in any case. Can anyone help me in any way? I'm willing to help you in return, pay you, do your homework, clean your house, fix your car, let you drive my M3, whatever you want if you can get me gold in this event... ... please??

 

[BWX]

I did it with the Audi R8 LMS but man was it difficult..

 

[hoolio]

blimey sig it's only 1 event and as you say it'll end soon and be gone not a big deal really but hey there are various tunes listed for the viper and are all,with a wee bit of practise,capable of a gold badge can't say much but watch replays note speeds etc and keep at it.

 

[BWX]

I was doing it before any setups or tips were posted.. The R8 was the fastest of my ann. cars.. but was 2 seconds off gold with my best time for many runs. That thing is such a mess to drive. When I did that seasonal, I thought the Viper was incapable of golding it as it was much slower than my R8. Guess with a perfect tune though, it is possible.