Anyone else dissapointed in Shift 2?

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Im very dissapointed to be dissapointed before I even tryed the game....

Im also very dissapointed for doubting if I should trust other people opinions on the game...
 
You people are crazy! You are going to say something negative about the trees in Shift 2?!?! Are you nuts? Those rocking trees in GT5 are lookin' saweet!

God forbid there is another racing title other than GT5.
 
They have a lot in common GT5 and Shift

both have the most advanced marketing deceiving department... too bad its not the most advanced physics (in both because the tyre model of GT5 leaves something to be desired)
 
Imari
I don't think this game is for you. I'd take counterpoint to some of your arguments, but I fear it would be a waste of time. I recommend you continue playing GT5, you will enjoy it more.
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I agree. I posted a over on another thread on the topic of accuracy. It's impossible to duplicate real life 100% in a video game. Down right impossible. These developers can not satisfy everyone. The vast majority will approve of what they do. Don't waste your time or ours for complaining about something that you knew of before hand. It makes no sense to complain when you already know the results.

I am highly disappointed in GT5. I have stated my dislikes, after the game was released when I got it at midnight on release day. I was then able to judge it for myself. What did I do about my dislike, I don't play it anymore. I found a substitute in F1 2010 for the time being. In a little over 12hrs, I plan on judging Shift 2 for myself.

Besides, post like this waste several seconds or minutes of someones precious life.

Imari
See, but it works (technically) if you tell them that before they buy it. If someone hates a game before they even play it, THEN goes and buys it and complains that it's bad I've got no sympathy at all.
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Neither do I and this is my main point. In fact this is what is disrespectful. Complaining about the known is like you being 16 and taking your parents car for a joy ride without permission. You know your going to get in trouble for it but you do it anyways and then get mad and cuss your parents when you get grounded. Why get upset when you know the results.

tinram
Actually, i would like to find out how folks that still play GT5 find this game?

Folks seem to be split with either you hate GT5 or Love it, Most who hate GT5 seems to like this game, more excitement and all. But i would like to find out what the folks who like GT5 think about this game. Specially when they have played it.

Based on the previews, it seems that the physics is still not at par with GT5 and FM3, but what does this mean? I want to feel that i control the car and that i can tell between the different cars specially at or past it's limits.

I'm not a physics snob, i like Dirt2 ( most say it has more arcady physics). In Dirt2 i can actually feel the car, I feel the weight transfer. I can induce over steer with the throttle, maintain it with counter steering etc.
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You hit this on the nail. However, I don't hate GT5, I just really dislike it. It had so much potential. I would rather play GT4 instead. Most who don't care much for GT5 have been with the series and stood by in since GT1. Myself included. It didn't meet expectation for alot of us plain and simple. Not being one to have played Shift 1, I welcome Shift 2 for the potential and the exact reason that you mentioned.
 
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The graphics look really terrible in places, but beautiful in others:
Beutiful
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I am looking forward to driving a caterham and DBR9

BLEH!!!!
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Is that a problem with the graphics, or do you just not like that body kit? One is a technical problem, one is just personal opinion. I don't see anything wrong in that third shot, although it is a staggeringly unattractive car.
 
Am I alone in saying I don't see a problem with the graphics or the car?... Sure it doesn't look as good as the standard SLR but as a race car it looks pretty mean
 
Yeah I guess it's not the best bodykit in the world, and the dull paintjob doesn't do it any favours. They should have just included the SLR 722 GT instead 👍

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I'm picking up my pre-order tomorrow, and I'm absolutely sure I won't be disappointed by . . .

1. The lack of Museum Cards
2. A car selection limited to only RACE worthy chassis
3. AI whose behavior is dynamically adjusted to the human player
4. Varied car modelling "STANDARDS"
5. A credit/xp model which DEMANDS I rerun a particular event AD NAUSEUM

If I'm disappointed S2U, it will because the quality of the racing doesn't provide for the "suspension of disbelief" for the physics. That said, given my disappointment with GT5, I'm prepared to trade a bit of physics for racing which is compelling. Sadly, GT5 revealed this to me. I know many of you may feel differently, and to each his own.
 
RWB1213
I'm picking up my pre-order tomorrow, and I'm absolutely sure I won't be disappointed by . . .

1. The lack of Museum Cards
2. A car selection limited to only RACE worthy chassis
3. AI whose behavior is dynamically adjusted to the human player
4. Varied car modelling "STANDARDS"
5. A credit/xp model which DEMANDS I rerun a particular event AD NAUSEUM

If I'm disappointed S2U, it will because the quality of the racing doesn't provide for the "suspension of disbelief" for the physics. That said, given my disappointment with GT5, I'm prepared to trade a bit of physics for racing which is compelling. Sadly, GT5 revealed this to me. I know many of you may feel differently, and to each his own.
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I agree and could not have said it better. All the gt fanboys rant about how real the driving physics is but the supposedly realest racing simulator left out the ability to upgrade brakes lol. On top of that we have no livery editor, limited aerokits, no engine swaps, basic mods, subpar car sounds, the damage is not that great and the cars still bounce off walls to some degree, jaggy shadows and other grapical errors ( just look at the race map outline enough said), 800 cars that are just imports from older gt with same polys and no ability to even change rims ( even though you could change rims in the older games). I would much rather have su2s better selection of cars, better ability to customize, better night races imo, better soundtrack ( gt5s is horrid), better engine sounds and racing experience (ie cockpit views and helmet cams), better AI, better damage and ok to good physics.
 
badeddy
I agree and could not have said it better. All the gt fanboys rant about how real the driving physics is but the supposedly realest racing simulator left out the ability to upgrade brakes lol. On top of that we have no livery editor, limited aerokits, no engine swaps, basic mods, subpar car sounds, the damage is not that great and the cars still bounce off walls to some degree, jaggy shadows and other grapical errors ( just look at the race map outline enough said), 800 cars that are just imports from older gt with same polys and no ability to even change rims ( even though you could change rims in the older games). I would much rather have su2s better selection of cars, better ability to customize, better night races imo, better soundtrack ( gt5s is horrid), better engine sounds and racing experience (ie cockpit views and helmet cams), better AI, better damage and ok to good physics.
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cant we be a guy that likes GT5 and Need for speed shift and be mature and not bash either hmmmmmm
 
This game is awesome. Way better than Gt5 or Forza or Iracing. The feedback from the wheel is incredible. Great game EA, knocked this one outta the park!
 
schigara
This game is awesome. Way better than Gt5 or Forza or Iracing. The feedback from the wheel is incredible. Great game EA, knocked this one outta the park!
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Here we go with this dude again he gets one thread locked now he is being sarcastic
 
^ just ignore it :D
I'm getting my game whatever are the bad comments...
Not disappointed with Shift 1, how can I be disappointed with Shift 2.
 
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xSTIG_JUNIORx
^ just ignore it :D
I'm getting my game whatever are the bad comments...
Not disappointed with Shift 1, how can I be disappointed with Shift 2.
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I'm sure at lot of people enjoyed GT4 too.
 
schigara
Tell me tomorrow that you love the realistic feedback from any wheel. Just do that.
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Thats where you went wrong I have never expected this to be extreamly realistic I have other sims for that
 
Saladine, my Australian buddy from NeoGaf has shared some impressions.

First he listed positives, which are more important:

saladine1
So, been playing SHIFT 2 for the last couple of hours.

Some quick impressions:

Handling has improved IMMENSELY. The sliding or swaying isn't there any more!
The cars are very controllable from the start without having to tweak certain wheel settings.

I've only driven a few of cars but you can really feel the distinction between FF and FR for example. I drove a Mk1 Golf around Bathurst and I must say....it was phenomenal!

Going fast over a hill or 'jump' will not result in an 'airbag' landing like in other games. Oh no, the result is the suspension and tyres lose all sense of stability and you completely lose the car in the most realistic fashion i've ever seen in a game!

Snap oversteer is depicted really well. Counter steering is also simulated in a proper manner. You will lose grip if accelerating on a fullish lock and the locking up of brakes feel realistic as well.

I really love the Elite physics, if feels so right and is a lot of fun. It's not PC sim physics but it's pretty close, much,much better than SHIFT 1.
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Than for some negatives:

saladine1
There are a few things that I don't like:

The graphics are....not all that to be honest. If you really want a graphical showcase get the PC version. There's a weird grey sheen on the cars in the garage and the trees look strange. Aliasing is bad as well.

Here's a strange one....upgrades: (try to follow,lol)

Example- Exhaust
There's no stage 1,2,3. You have: high flow muffler,catback exhaust and headers.
Now, when you buy the muffler,it installs and you gain a little power. But, if you install cat back exhaust, you lose that high flow rear muffler. Then, if you install some headers, you lose the cat back exhaust!!
WTF!!!
Those items you uninstalled are still there but not as a purchased items. You have to buy them again if you want them back. Why would they uninstall my exhaust system just because I installed some headers?

Same thing with Cylinder Heads. First option is street valves and 3 angle valve seat. If you install the next option which is large valves, port and polish, you lose the valve seat job you previously did. Then, if you choose the next option, heavy duty springs and retainers, you lose the large valves and port 'n' polish!
How the **** can some retainers have more horsepower potential than large valves and port and polish?
What they've done is, treat each upgrade in a particular mod as stage 1,2,3 when they're not supposed to. Those 3 upgrades should work off each other and not be seperate...
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Basically, problems with the tuning logic in the structure.

However, I really appreciate his opinion and I can't wait to get my hands on PS3 game later today.
 
schigara
Oh yeah, which sims? If you're expecting this to be even 20% the sim of Gt5, then oops.
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ooh me thinks this guy is a sore looser and bitter eh??
Its seems that you are the one expecting it to be a sim as I have already stated I am not. Stop being a sore loser if you dont like the game go back to playing call of Dutyor Modnation racers or whatever it is you play on your off time.

Its a video game enjoy it I have never ever thought the shift2 was gonna be near gt5. but if it is enjoyable with freinds than its a great game for me. If you need hard core sims theres always the PC buddy.
 
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amar212
Saladine, my Australian buddy from NeoGaf has shared some impressions.

First he listed positives, which are more important:



Than for some negatives:



Basically, problems with the tuning logic in the structure.

However, I really appreciate his opinion and I can't wait to get my hands on PS3 game later today.
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Nice one...sounds great 👍
 

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