Are you a fatass?
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Just in case nobody knew, "fatass" is pronounced "fuh-toss." It's French.
true, i was 120 lbs when i was sixtenn, up until a year ago i put on about 30, i know what you mean about motabolism, mines fast as it can be. i do have some fat, but its hardly there. but i wouldnt worry about i, youll gain mass in due time, just eat as normal, and do some excercises, that way you gain mass and stay cut.
You're still young so don't worry about it just yet.
But most skinny guy's say what you just said. I can't gain weight because my metabolism is to fast and I even eat quite a bit. Truth of the matter is, is that you don't really eat quite a bit. You probably eat just the amount that it takes your body to maintain it's current level.
I've been skinny all my life and not really all that happy about it. I don't blame anyone or anything other than myself and I contribute my skinniness to my activity levels and eating habits. I've been a competitive swimmer since age 7 and that lasted till I was 17. From then on I've always participated in activities such as snowboarding and hiking and the like. But things started to change when I stopped doing all those activities and I started to get quite the gut on me. That was due to my alcohol intake and lack of activity. I got up to about 155 lbs. Then I quit drinking and my weight crashed down to 132 lbs and I'm 5'8" I've always wanted to be bigger, but have never been able to. Well that wasn't true, it really was that I didn't know how to get bigger.
So I was tired of being the skinny guy so I did something to change it. I now go to the gym and lift weights on a regular basis, but the thing that I really had to change was my eating habits. I had horrible eating habits as do most cooks and chefs. I said the same thing Tim said about eating all day. I did eat all day but I ate the amount my body really needed just to maintain it's self. After reading up on some diets about weight gaining it became apparent as to what I was doing wrong. I didn't eat enough, even though I thought I did.
Now, I eat and eat and eat. I even force myself to eat. I eat probably 6-8 meals a day now and work out about 4-5 days a week with cardio exercise 4 to 5 days a week. I've come from being 132 lbs to now weighing 150 lbs. I've gained almost 20 lbs and it's almost all muscle. I do have a tiny bit of belly now, but that's expected. I plan on getting up to 160-165 lbs by the end of this winter season. Then switching over to a fat loss diet for next summer so I can trim off the fat that I have gained from being on a weight gain diet.
As for other Americans, I've come to learn that it's really all there own faults for being over weight. (that is unless it's some sort of medical condition.) But the access that Americans have to foods, especially high fat convenience foods is the largest contributing factor to an overweight America.
For example: The place that I work have some students here in the US on a work program. Two of these students are female and when they first arrived here in the US, they had incredible physical attributes. But now after being in the US for almost a year now, those physical attributes are not so incredible any more.
See in the country they are from, access to food isn't so readily available as it is here in the US and the foods that they eat there are more healthier. There aren't huge supermarkets were they are from, nor do they have 7-11's on every street corner.
So in their country, the two girls ate the perfect amount of healthy foods that led to their great bodies. But now that they are here and have access to an amazing amount of foods healthy and unhealthy alike, with the unhealthy choices more readily available to them, they have gained considerable weight. These girls are at the gym all the time, and just cant get the added weight off. Due to there now unhealthy American eating habits.
So in conclusion, I believe that Americas obesity is due to our fast paces lives coupled with an easy access to unhealthy convenience foods. But when it all boils down to it, if you're fat, it's your own fault. Not McDonalds' fault. Get up and do something about it.
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- GTP_Kent
I don't really think Americans are all that fat.
Rather, I think the idea of fat Americans is related to other things. (besides the fact that there IS a population of obese people in America.)
First would be the fact that America is the most watched nation in the world.
Anything that anyone can find out about America via statistics or estimates is published in the media and scrutinized to no end, so with the overall wealth of the American nation it should serve as no suprise that people consider Americans fat. (for god's sake, they can afford to eat, let them if they want to)
Then there is the negative association with the term fat.
It's an insult, flat out. And anything to insult America by some is fair game.
Personally, I think that there is a problem for some individuals in America, but I don't see any difference in any other first world country.
Italy, France, Spain... all of these places have overwieght people, it's just a world wide media coverage explioting bogus attempts by un-ethical lawyers to capitalize on the food industry that creates an air of an "obesity epidemic."
With a world that adores Kate Moss, would you expect anything other than "fat Americans" to be the choice insult?
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- DerAlta
I've travelled over seas a few times, and I have to note, that the stereo typical "Fat American" isn't much of a stretch. In the Ukraine, Germany, Honduras and a few other places, a 300 lb person is a very rare sight.
I was a weightlifter/bodybuilder at one point in my life, and bulked up pretty big. I still carry most of that muscle buried under a layer of insulation
. I stand 5'10 and carry 225 lbs. Ideally, I'd like to drop 20 of those pounds off my waist. I carry that weight well, evenly distributed across my frame. Mesomorph Body type.
I too work a desk job, and enjoy food. Problem is that I don't exersize enough. I've been changing that though. Dropped all the alcohol and cut down the food amounts. Gave up All junk food, as well as fast food. It works, because a month ago, I was creeping up on 240 lbs.
This is the problem that I see in the US. A lack of exersise, combined with huge portions of food. Easy access to Junk food and Soda. Seriously, I grab lunch at Burgerking and I don't need to eat for 36 hours. It's that long until I feel hungry again. This is one of the biggest problems with the US, People eat Breakfast, Lunch, and Dinner followed up with dessert. Weather or not they are hungry. They eat because it's time to eat.
I know people that will eat an entire small pizza for lunch after having eggs, bacon and sausage for breakfast. Dinner and Dessert that evening. Then they wonder why they can't stick with a diet.
Here's a classic story. My old friend Steph. She'd run 4 miles every night, then award herself a pint of Ben and Jerry's Ice cream. Her justification was "I just exercised, so I deserve a treat" She wondered why she couldn't lose any weight no matter how hard she tried.
My thoughts are similar to Nike's. Just do it. Cut the extra food out. Don't eat it because it's there. You go to a restaurant and get a huge portion. Nothing says you have to finish it. At some point, you realize how little you need to eat to have enough enegery for the day.
And yes, America is fat. Forget insults, spend an hour in front of a Walmart, and you'll know full well why there are size 55 pants.
AO
I was a weightlifter/bodybuilder at one point in my life, and bulked up pretty big. I still carry most of that muscle buried under a layer of insulation
. I stand 5'10 and carry 225 lbs. Ideally, I'd like to drop 20 of those pounds off my waist. I carry that weight well, evenly distributed across my frame. Mesomorph Body type.I too work a desk job, and enjoy food. Problem is that I don't exersize enough. I've been changing that though. Dropped all the alcohol and cut down the food amounts. Gave up All junk food, as well as fast food. It works, because a month ago, I was creeping up on 240 lbs.
This is the problem that I see in the US. A lack of exersise, combined with huge portions of food. Easy access to Junk food and Soda. Seriously, I grab lunch at Burgerking and I don't need to eat for 36 hours. It's that long until I feel hungry again. This is one of the biggest problems with the US, People eat Breakfast, Lunch, and Dinner followed up with dessert. Weather or not they are hungry. They eat because it's time to eat.
I know people that will eat an entire small pizza for lunch after having eggs, bacon and sausage for breakfast. Dinner and Dessert that evening. Then they wonder why they can't stick with a diet.
Here's a classic story. My old friend Steph. She'd run 4 miles every night, then award herself a pint of Ben and Jerry's Ice cream. Her justification was "I just exercised, so I deserve a treat" She wondered why she couldn't lose any weight no matter how hard she tried.
My thoughts are similar to Nike's. Just do it. Cut the extra food out. Don't eat it because it's there. You go to a restaurant and get a huge portion. Nothing says you have to finish it. At some point, you realize how little you need to eat to have enough enegery for the day.
And yes, America is fat. Forget insults, spend an hour in front of a Walmart, and you'll know full well why there are size 55 pants.
AO
mayorbill11
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I'm 6'0", about 210lbs. I'm a big guy to begin with, I have a large frame, but I need to build muscle, i'm kinda flabby right now.
Any fat I have is from not eating at the right times and not enough excersize.
Any fat I have is from not eating at the right times and not enough excersize.
- 3,692
I'm underweight.
Supposed to be in the region of, erm, 50kg something for a 14 year old?
My weight is only 35kg, the last time I checked.
Supposed to be in the region of, erm, 50kg something for a 14 year old?
My weight is only 35kg, the last time I checked.
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did anyone here about the person in usa that was sueing macdonalds for making her fat??? u can sue anyone over there..
- 10,832
I'm noticing there are two or three groups of posters in this thread:
Teenagers: Most of them are simply not concerned with weight and have no problems with it no matter what they eat. When I was 17 and 18 I ate constantly, whatever I wanted, and niether weight nor appearance ever crossed my mind.
Athletic types: They are the most educated as to body types, metabolism, and nutrition and are essentially experts on the topic.
Average adults: People over 30 who used to take looking good for granted and realized at some point, for most of us, it requires some effort.
I fall into the latter. In my mid-twenties I lived in downtown Chicago and didn't even own a car. I didn't have cable TV or any video games. I walked and rode my bike everywhere. And I was pretty poor so I didn't eat much unecessary food. I was probably too thin then (165 lbs. / 6' 1").
But then I moved to Phoenix, AZ, a city built around the car. The only thing walking distance from my house (besides other houses) is a gas station. I have to drive to work. I don't even own a bike any more. Over a period of about four or five years (28 - 33) my weight slowly creeped up until I went to the doctor one day earlier this year and weighed in at 236 lbs. I was so shocked because, like DA, I carried it well and didn't have fat rolls or anything like that. After that I became very concious of portion sizes and snacks, but still put no real effort into shedding pounds. But every time I got out of the shower I saw the girth, the belly, the thickness... every day I felt like this when I looked in the mirror:
When I went to buy shorts and pants I had to get bigger sizes. I put on my swimsuit at the beginning of summer and it was tight when it had been loose the previous year. The constant reminders were coming through the loose fitting clothes I'd started hiding my body with.
I finally just couldn't take it any more. I'd hear about how fat Americans are and think to myself, "well if they'd stop eating **** and get some excercise they woudln't be". Then I'd look in the mirror and realize I was criticizing myself. That was the last straw. I modified my diet and started excercizing daily. I work 45 hrs a week, go to school and have a six month old and I still find the time, which shoots down my old excuse: no time. I started this in the first week of August and I've lost 25 lbs in two months. Yes I had to work at it, but I'm healthier, feel and look better, and have basically changed my lifestyle for the better. Even when I'm tired and think how nice it would be to just lay on the couch for the short amount of free time I have most days, I know I'll be happier if I just get off my ass and excercise. It's not that hard and I say from personal experience that the only reason to not do it is laziness. Of course if you just don't care about it and don't want to change, then that's another story.
I started this thread because it pisses me off that people are not willing to take responsibility for their own problems, although I've seen little of that in this thread. Blaming fast food, sedentary lifestyles, suburban sprawl, or TV and video games for being fat is pathetic, and the fact that American institutions are promoting this belief disturbs me. Anyone can change if they only want to. Most people have a lot more free time than me. If I can do it, they can. But they'd rather sue McDonalds or tax so-called unhealthy foods. They think their problems are anybody's responsibility but their own. And I think I will start telling people this when it comes up. Wouldn't it feel great to say to some fat whiner: "Shut your pie-hole, fatass. Go on a diet and get some excercise you lazy pig!" Well, that's basically what I said to myself, and it worked.
Teenagers: Most of them are simply not concerned with weight and have no problems with it no matter what they eat. When I was 17 and 18 I ate constantly, whatever I wanted, and niether weight nor appearance ever crossed my mind.
Athletic types: They are the most educated as to body types, metabolism, and nutrition and are essentially experts on the topic.
Average adults: People over 30 who used to take looking good for granted and realized at some point, for most of us, it requires some effort.
I fall into the latter. In my mid-twenties I lived in downtown Chicago and didn't even own a car. I didn't have cable TV or any video games. I walked and rode my bike everywhere. And I was pretty poor so I didn't eat much unecessary food. I was probably too thin then (165 lbs. / 6' 1").
But then I moved to Phoenix, AZ, a city built around the car. The only thing walking distance from my house (besides other houses) is a gas station. I have to drive to work. I don't even own a bike any more. Over a period of about four or five years (28 - 33) my weight slowly creeped up until I went to the doctor one day earlier this year and weighed in at 236 lbs. I was so shocked because, like DA, I carried it well and didn't have fat rolls or anything like that. After that I became very concious of portion sizes and snacks, but still put no real effort into shedding pounds. But every time I got out of the shower I saw the girth, the belly, the thickness... every day I felt like this when I looked in the mirror:
When I went to buy shorts and pants I had to get bigger sizes. I put on my swimsuit at the beginning of summer and it was tight when it had been loose the previous year. The constant reminders were coming through the loose fitting clothes I'd started hiding my body with.I finally just couldn't take it any more. I'd hear about how fat Americans are and think to myself, "well if they'd stop eating **** and get some excercise they woudln't be". Then I'd look in the mirror and realize I was criticizing myself. That was the last straw. I modified my diet and started excercizing daily. I work 45 hrs a week, go to school and have a six month old and I still find the time, which shoots down my old excuse: no time. I started this in the first week of August and I've lost 25 lbs in two months. Yes I had to work at it, but I'm healthier, feel and look better, and have basically changed my lifestyle for the better. Even when I'm tired and think how nice it would be to just lay on the couch for the short amount of free time I have most days, I know I'll be happier if I just get off my ass and excercise. It's not that hard and I say from personal experience that the only reason to not do it is laziness. Of course if you just don't care about it and don't want to change, then that's another story.
I started this thread because it pisses me off that people are not willing to take responsibility for their own problems, although I've seen little of that in this thread. Blaming fast food, sedentary lifestyles, suburban sprawl, or TV and video games for being fat is pathetic, and the fact that American institutions are promoting this belief disturbs me. Anyone can change if they only want to. Most people have a lot more free time than me. If I can do it, they can. But they'd rather sue McDonalds or tax so-called unhealthy foods. They think their problems are anybody's responsibility but their own. And I think I will start telling people this when it comes up. Wouldn't it feel great to say to some fat whiner: "Shut your pie-hole, fatass. Go on a diet and get some excercise you lazy pig!" Well, that's basically what I said to myself, and it worked.
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- DerAlta
The lawsuit is trying to equate Fast Food with BIg Tobacco companies.
Where as the TObacco companies were lying and using additives to increase consumption and addiction, and causing a serious detriment to consumers health, Fast food was accused of doing similar things.
Mostly the lying about health and ingredients. THe lawsuit has been tossed out, but is now under appeal. The persons justification was that through years of eating at fast food joints, they've developed life threatening diseases attributed to the food. The argument gets in teh grey area when you try to determine what Fast Food was intending with the taste and adjustments to the food.
And since it landed in the grey area, someone figured they'd make a buck off of it.
AO
Where as the TObacco companies were lying and using additives to increase consumption and addiction, and causing a serious detriment to consumers health, Fast food was accused of doing similar things.
Mostly the lying about health and ingredients. THe lawsuit has been tossed out, but is now under appeal. The persons justification was that through years of eating at fast food joints, they've developed life threatening diseases attributed to the food. The argument gets in teh grey area when you try to determine what Fast Food was intending with the taste and adjustments to the food.
And since it landed in the grey area, someone figured they'd make a buck off of it.
AO
Originally posted by milefile
I'm noticing there are two or three groups of posters in this thread:
Teenagers: Most of them are simply not concerned with weight and have no problems with it no matter what they eat. When I was 17 and 18 I ate constantly, whatever I wanted, and niether weight nor appearance ever crossed my mind.
Athletic types: They are the most educated as to body types, metabolism, and nutrition and are essentially experts on the topic.
Average adults: People over 30 who used to take looking good for granted and realized at some point, for most of us, it requires some effort.
I fall into the latter. In my mid-twenties I lived in downtown Chicago and didn't even own a car. I didn't have cable TV or any video games. I walked and rode my bike everywhere. And I was pretty poor so I didn't eat much unecessary food. I was probably too thin then (165 lbs. / 6' 1").
But then I moved to Phoenix, AZ, a city built around the car. The only thing walking distance from my house (besides other houses) is a gas station. I have to drive to work. I don't even own a bike any more. Over a period of about four or five years (28 - 33) my weight slowly creeped up until I went to the doctor one day earlier this year and weighed in at 236 lbs. I was so shocked because, like DA, I carried it well and didn't have fat rolls or anything like that. After that I became very concious of portion sizes and snacks, but still put no real effort into shedding pounds. But every time I got out of the shower I saw the girth, the belly, the thickness... every day I felt like this when I looked in the mirror:
I finally just couldn't take it any more. I'd hear about how fat Americans are and think to myself, "well if they'd stop eating **** and get some excercise they woudln't be". Then I'd look in the mirror and realize I was criticizing myself. That was the last straw. I modified my diet and started excercizing daily. I work 45 hrs a week, go to school and have a six month old and I still find the time, which shoots down my old excuse: no time. I started this in the first week of August and I've lost 25 lbs in two months. Yes I had to work at it, but I'm healthier, feel and look better, and have basically changed my lifestyle for the better. Even when I'm tired and think how nice it would be to just lay on the couch for the short amount of free time I have most days, I know I'll be happier if I just get off my ass and excercise. It's not that hard and I say from personal experience that the only reason to not do it is laziness. Of course if you just don't care about it and don't want to change, then that's another story.
I started this thread because it pisses me off that people are not willing to take responsibility for their own problems, although I've seen little of that in this thread. Blaming fast food, sedentary lifestyles, suburban sprawl, or TV and video games for being fat is pathetic, and the fact that American institutions are promoting this belief disturbs me. Anyone can change if they only want to. Most people have a lot more free time than me. If I can do it, they can. But they'd rather sue McDonalds or tax so-called unhealthy foods. They think their problems are anybody's responsibility but their own. And I think I will start telling people this when it comes up. Wouldn't it feel great to say to some fat whiner: "Shut your pie-hole, fatass. Go on a diet and get some excercise you lazy pig!" Well, that's basically what I said to myself, and it worked.
Good job Milefile. I know at my age I have a harder time working out than I use to at 20 but I feel like I have to keep doing it. I don't want all those workouts to go to waste. I have a son that helps keep me working because I don't want to be one of those fathers that sits on the sidelines watching him grow up but instead I want to participate in his growing up. He is only young once and I want to want to make the most of it.
Keep it up.
- 5,622
- eMadman
here's whats weird
i'm 6' 4", approx 110 lbs
i can eat like a pig and not work out for over a year straight (last few years) and not gain weight. to top that, i can work out like a machine and not bulk up no matter what i do. so, i'm gonna be a short, skinny brown guy for a loooong time...luckily height is made up in other places
here's what i figured i'll do since i can't bulk up...
i don't gain or lose, so i'm going almost entirely cardio with my workout with some heavy lifting mixed in. i love riding my bike, and i'd love to go back to going an entire day on a bike without a single break period. hopefully by summer, i'll be set for a 3 hour ride...i'd do some jogging, but my knee would die after the first 20 minutes
haha, woops, wrong height
i'm 6' 4", approx 110 lbs
i can eat like a pig and not work out for over a year straight (last few years) and not gain weight. to top that, i can work out like a machine and not bulk up no matter what i do. so, i'm gonna be a short, skinny brown guy for a loooong time...luckily height is made up in other places
here's what i figured i'll do since i can't bulk up...
i don't gain or lose, so i'm going almost entirely cardio with my workout with some heavy lifting mixed in. i love riding my bike, and i'd love to go back to going an entire day on a bike without a single break period. hopefully by summer, i'll be set for a 3 hour ride...i'd do some jogging, but my knee would die after the first 20 minutes
haha, woops, wrong height
- 732
i play water polo, and i am on the swim team for my school.
not a fat ass.
not a fat ass.
- 732
eat more protein, (chicken, tuna, peanut butter)
and when you work out, eat alot of carbohydrates. (do not eat alot of carbs if you plan to loose weight)
i take in 10 - 11,000 calories a day and my weight stays in the 175- 180 range, and i'm 6'3" join a swimm team, you will bulk up in no time.
- 732
i got bad news, nobody ever lost weight or gained muscle by taking pills, (unless they were steroids) eat alot of tuna, and for carbs, eat anything with sugar.
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