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I am so determined to catch Hugh in the N2 3/6 event before the update, I would have had 3rd on this run but, Mr. Lewis was oblivious to me being on the his inside going into the chicane on the last lap.
Assetto corsa coming to PS4 and Xbox one
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You said Kunos decided to pull a fast one, that contradicts saying they underestimated the console crowd. Which brings me to the next point, they brought this game out for sim racers on consoles, not specifically for the GT and Forza crowd, so where is the proof that they underestimated tye crowd rather than simply didn't add things for whatever reason? you can't make accusations of the nature like "they pulled a fast one" then say well you can't prove they didn't. You can't prove you didn't mug someone last night if I randomly imo made that accusation.
Where is the valid point in saying that kunos basically just set put to rip people off? Also isn't GTsport ĺight on content fof a game that will be out nearly 4 years into the PS4s life cycling? not even heading into October but next year. Your post literally makes no sense as it has nothing to do with the discussion, which was under estimating the console crowd and pulling a fast one. That makes people fanboys lol, maybe that is down to lack of comprehension. Neither Dopedog or yourself can't prove you have any comprehension, if anyone tries to prove otherwise then they are clearly fànboys.
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Opinions that are worth something are based on facts because without at least some basic truths to support an opinion it's just a bunch of hot air. Even worse when someone just makes up their own "facts" and base their opinion on the made up "facts".
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I'd wish we would get an option to change our avatar name in game. Only in Single Player of course. It just looks odd when they all have normal names but I have gladbecker82.
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That would be a nice feature, I would change mine to "I own you Hugh", lol. Mission accomplished.
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I think it's really quite simple. NOBODY here believes AC is a perfect game, most wouldn't even argue that it's a good game. What it is, is the closest thing to a true driving/racing sim that we have available on console, with great FFB & physics. It doesn't have the depth of content, graphics, or general polish of games like GT or Forza or PCars. It's a game by a small developer with nothing like the resources available to those "big games". It also has some annoying glitches & omissions (but bear in mind that those "polished" games also have had annoying glitches & omissions).
It's not surprising that AC is not setting the world on fire when it comes to sales at Gamestop - it's a niche title - a driving/racing sim aimed at driving sim aficionados. It would be nice to have a polished game that is also a great sim, but I suspect the hope that Kunos will continue to work on & improve AC is a better bet than the hope that PD or Turn 10 or SMS will create a more sim based version of their titles.
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To me, at the moment, AC is not "The perfect game", as the way games are released nowadays with bugs, and after release patches are needed to fix/improve them, therefore AC being a perfect game from release was never going to happen. But as a base, it could very well be a fantastic game on console in a few months time, once a few patches, and more cars, and especially tracks in DLC, are a applied to it. And to me there is no such thing as a perfect game, just very accomplished ones. 
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sorry but this is rambling incomprehensible garbage you have written, i dont respond to your type :-)
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Your agreeing with me, the console 'port' hasn't got much of what the PC title does so IMO i'm right to think they may have just thought they could get away with dropping some stuff for consoles... they did, regardless of any future patches the game released was lacking some basics from the PC title. So how exactly am I wrong?
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To me, at the moment, AC is not "The perfect game", as the way games are released nowadays with bugs, and after release patches are needed to fix/improve them, therefore AC being a perfect game from release was never going to happen. But as a base, it could very well be a fantastic game on console in a few months time, once a few patches, and more cars, and especially tracks in DLC, are a applied to it. And to me there is no such thing as a perfect game, just very accomplished ones.
Sorely needed, they released 1 official track this year, smh. talk about not identifying your weaknesses.
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Correct, it doesn't take away the accusation because "IMO" is incompatible with assumptions. Opinions are based on something you have reason to feel sufficiently informed about. All the space wasted here on page 151 could have been avoided if the assumption wasn't stated as fact, and thereby there would be no accusation. Ironic how the objective individuals calling for reason are then labelled as fanboys.
Show me where I called anyone a 'fanboy'? Certainly not received any warnings from Scaff? Just pointing out the console version is at release a poor cousin of the PC game, am I wrong? Brandon seems to agree with me.
If i say the console version is not great and a person with the PC version starts arguing with me then its comparing apples and pears!
The console version is poor at release and lacks so much present in the PC version. If we then say "well its because its a console" then surely Kunos should of not released it for consoles...see?
And with that train of thought if they knowingly released a game for consoles so far removed from its PC brethren then could i not suggest they were trying to fob off console users?
I for one feel fobbed off, am i aloud? You know as a consumer? Or must i praise it without fault to fit in?
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Show me a recent console game that released in really good shape and I'll show you more that were released in poor shape and needed patches and updates before they resembled the game that was advertised. So do you also presume all those games' (some of which went on to be very good games) devs were just trying to get away with dropping some stuff for consoles? How many of the promised features for PCars were never added? Do you make the same accusation towards SMS that they just trying to pull a fast one on console players? It's far more plausible that Kunos were rushed to get the game out and some features are going to have to wait, less plausible that they sat around and said "screw the console peasants, they don't need all these features because those are only for the PC master race". Neither you nor I know for sure, but at least my presumption is based on nearly two years of following the game progress and getting to know the devs.
You're totally entitled to have the opinion that because a product isn't exactly the way you wanted it automatically means that the manufacturer was out to screw you over. But if you're going to spout it on a public forum then others are equally entitled to point out why that attitude is silly.
You're allowed to feel how ever you want. But why aren't you making these same accusations about PCars? Why aren't you fobbed off at SMS for removing animated pit crews and driver swaps and other things that were PROMISED to be in the game only to later be removed? And since development has stopped you're never going to get them, that could be seen as false advertising. That would fob me off and it's one of the major reasons that game will never be installed on my system again. Yet, you don't see me in the PCars threads talking trash about it.
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you just hit a lot of nerves.
Dude seriously i'm not trying to hit nerves. And stop calling people 'fanboys' as they will use it against anyone coming on here with valid criticisms.
Your not setting a good example. Just debate with sense and rational behavior basically.
With respect, I'm not on your side as i don't have sides only my own opinions. Cheers.
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Hey you think i wasn't critisising PCars?! Man i spent ages doing that, and that's a game I've spent 35 days (combined hours) playing since a years ownership!!
And i still play it loads and will for a long time yet.
This is AC thread though and PCars had its share of backlash no point dragging that back up.
No AC and kunos want to take the console golden egg that keeps on giving, well the rub is they have to not take short cuts and give us AC full fat and not AC lite.
So far we have AC lite.
And i'm not some demanding console kid, I'm currently playing Sebastien Loeb rally evo and that's ugly as sin! But i'm loving the rally physics of it.
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So you realize that a game can release in a broken state, improve over time, fix most of it's problems, and end up being enjoyable. Yet you're still accusing Kunos of trying to pull a fast one on console players even though the game has been out less than a month and received zero updates? You realize the utter hypocrisy in that, right?
I've tried to be civil and rational but it was clearly wasted effort. I'm leaving this before Scaff ban-hammers me. My advice, put AC on the shelf for a few months and go play PCars.
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Please don't put the game down.. we need more people racing online at all hours of the day in all regions.
More so in my region between 6:15-8:00am PST M-F
The online works great when there are people to race - yeah it is not private but just be careful on T1, you have 8-10 laps after that to enjoy.
More so in my region between 6:15-8:00am PST M-F
The online works great when there are people to race - yeah it is not private but just be careful on T1, you have 8-10 laps after that to enjoy.
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I think you have to be realistic about what a small developer with a limited budget is capable of doing. I am OK with the "unfinished" state of AC, because I would rather be able to play the game as is, than wait another year for for a more refined version. I understand perfectly why some people would feel they didn't get value for money, but those people should probably have read more about the game before committing to buying it. My understanding is that Kunos is committed to improving & expanding AC, rather than abandoning it to bring out a second installment - a strategy that makes sense to me.
More frustrating for me was the interminable wait for the latest version of GT - a game franchise on which huge amounts of time & money are spent - only to find that the most basic shortcomings of GT simply reappear in a new, better-looking form.
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It's really not drastically better. The console is missing four or five key things that make it more usable but nothing that magically transforms it into a great "game". I think most PC players get their fun from hot lapping, quick races/setting up race weekends, and racing online. Console players can do all of that but setting up races and racing online are severely handicapped at the moment which takes a big chunk of the enjoyment away. The career mode isn't likely to improve (other than fixing the glitches), special events get added but they just kind of are what they are. Despite all that there's still lots of fun to be had when all the parts are working correctly.
PC version supports mods, that alone makes the PC version a lot better than the console versions imo.
To me the biggest weakness in AC in terms of content is tracks but that's solved in the PC version with mods. Console version has only 12 real track locations, I currently have 47 real track locations in my game, and there's several more that are on my download list. And then there's the extra cars, skins, career mods, apps, etc.
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All I've said is that i believe Kunos saw the money in consoles and saw what SMS did and thought "Go for it", with that they clearly left a lot on the shelf, not little things but big things, the whole race end is borked and so jarring that i'm embarrassed witnessing it sat on my own so God knows how Kunos can live with releasing it like that.
They went for the money, i get that and nothing wrong with that its business and the money and rewards in console sales is night and day to only shifting stuff to PC.
But they have to take criticisms, i'm sure they do, its just people like you that can't for ome reason?
You also keep banging on about how you hotlap and tinker like you and Kunos and AC all invented this
I've been doing that since ToCA 1 on PS1, heck Forza 1 started out and people were private lobbying Nordschleife and doing make shift drag races! the whole drift scene in forza was organic and created by people 'tinkering'.
There's literally LOADS of games that you can go off and do your own thing, tread your own path and any sand box driving game will be the same, arguably in fact there's a lot more to do in say PCars than AC in that respect and stupid amounts more to do in say a Forza/horizon or say a Seb Loeb Rally Evo.
Hot lapping with no way to compare your times to other people or even your own times?! lol.
No tyre wear or heat cycles on a 'sim' is poor, regardless of what comes in the future judging it right now.
One of your PC mates in another thread called it 'AC LITE' on consoles and i don't remember if you chastised him?
Brandon, have you even played the console version of AC?
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Interessant reading... And maybe make people more comprehensive with game developers.
http://kotaku.com/five-things-i-did...edium=sharefromsite&utm_source=Kotaku_twitter
For the rest.... Kunos With 3 guys did a port of their sim on console, with the complete physics engine, driving and FFB on a solid basis..
They said and repeated plenty of times that they see the 1.0 assetto from console like the 1.0 assetto PC version time ago.
A basis to begin improving and building.
So why some people don't stop whining and go to the support threads of kunos to help with bug and issue reports, or give them suggestions!
Assetto first at all is a "game" that don't even want to compete with forza..GT or even project cars.. It just want to go on his own, and the principal feature of Assetto and what them maked "famous" are their physics, driving and FFB together with the most accurated tracks on a "game".
It's all about driving.
Sure some people will love it (like me) and others want more fun and normal like videgame.
For the rest, hive the little studio the time to improve their game.
http://kotaku.com/five-things-i-did...edium=sharefromsite&utm_source=Kotaku_twitter
For the rest.... Kunos With 3 guys did a port of their sim on console, with the complete physics engine, driving and FFB on a solid basis..
They said and repeated plenty of times that they see the 1.0 assetto from console like the 1.0 assetto PC version time ago.
A basis to begin improving and building.
So why some people don't stop whining and go to the support threads of kunos to help with bug and issue reports, or give them suggestions!
Assetto first at all is a "game" that don't even want to compete with forza..GT or even project cars.. It just want to go on his own, and the principal feature of Assetto and what them maked "famous" are their physics, driving and FFB together with the most accurated tracks on a "game".
It's all about driving.
Sure some people will love it (like me) and others want more fun and normal like videgame.
For the rest, hive the little studio the time to improve their game.
