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Assetto corsa coming to PS4 and Xbox one
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Well, PCars 2 will don't have custom Championships offline like assetto, but will feature custom Championships online.
Pcars is a "Racing sim" so quite normal that they put above race cars than road cars.
Pcars 2 will feature 20 laserscaned locations...
In Assetto, Highlands,cat county,Zaandvoort, Silverstone classic and monza 1966 aren't laserscaned (from monza 1966 only oval section is laserscaned)
How many locations stays?
The tracks on assetto are amazing in feeling and accuracy but hasn't really a good amount of tracks sadly.
For the rest, PCars 2 will outshine AC,the first one already does, so if the FFB and physics are a good step above the first one... Good sim game incoming.
BTW, PCars 2 has also an "iracing" style rating system in full online.
GT Sport only will feature the working rating system in the sport mode,not in the normal custom lobbies.
And yes, the offline campaign mode with 177 events is more likely an driving school to race online..
In Assetto a very little community of players will stay active...once Forza 7, PCars 2 and GT SPORT are realesed.
Sad,but kunos has be very slow in the post realese support... And yes, we all know that it's a little team, but know they belong to digital bros,a huge company that inject money, so they could been hiring quite some more devs.
The just started 2 weeks ago looking for a couple of new devs..
And,if digital bros are right...
Assetto Corsa has sold 500.000 copies on PC and 900.000 copies on consoles
http://www.digitalbros.com/wp-conte..._CorporateOverview_November2016_encrypted.pdf
So they should look a bit more to their console community...
For me, assetto corsa will be my perfect hotlapping sim because i like the FFB and physics, they aren't on level also with PC version, but for now the best on console and the only good thing in Assetto console, because on PS4 standard the fps stuttering in some tracks like Barcelona with more than 10 cars on track can be a real pain in the ass.
That assetto on console isn't what they promised and promote is more than known, and it will ever be on par with PC version...
Just Look how 505games do there customers support on the console lounge and console bug report section.
A real sad shame with all the potential the console version had to be a true winner.
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No. 12 are laser scanned. The rest are scaned by dron. Assetto has 10 laser scanned tracks without counting RBR, Classic Monza and having in mind that Assetto has Barcelona, Imola, Monza, Mugello, Silverstone, Spa, Magione and Vallelunga while PCars2 has Portimao, Cadwell park, COTA, Daytona, Fuji, Long Beach, Oulton Park, Snetterton and Sugo. It's good that both games have different laser scanned tracks if you have both games. But arguably the laser scanned tracks from Assetto are more important while some of PCars2 are more exotic and interesting.
In some places will. In others, like I explained, wont.
PCars 1 doesnt outshine/replace Assetto in any place for me. The differences in ffb and physics are too large. Just like Driveclub doesnt replace Assetto even when it has more features and possibilities. If Im looking for a good wheel feeling (in closed tracks racing), at this moment there is only one game I want to play.
I havent raced in Barcelona, but I dont have any graphical severe problem when racing when 16 AI cars (and I raced in Nurburgring, Silverstone, Vallelunga, Monza classic, Zandvoort...). In Nordschleife, after you survive the first 10-20 corners or so when the fps barely stays on the 30 fps, everything is good.
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So @SlimCharles are you a WMD member? Cause some of the comments sound like a comparison between the 2 titles. I have no interest in the argument, but am extremely curious in the difference between ffb and "wheel feel" between the two...
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No Im not. But at this point you can know most of the features the game will perform.
Obviously can't talk about the physics and ffb, but all the statemets combined tells me PC2 it's close to the hardcore simulators.
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Performance improvements should have been their number one priority, but unfortunately we haven't seen any, besides the first patch. It's not unplayable but It's still a bit far away from rock solid 60 fps.
Another valid point. As far as I remember, one of their console devs checked one thread and the issues mentioned there were fixed. Should be possible for them to check that section once a week or every two weeks and keep us updated. I don't think that's too much to ask, in my opinion.
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You should take better your informations slimcharles.
Nordschleife for example in Pcars 2 is now laserscaned.
Like I've said, now it will be 20.
Don't see why for example vallelunga laserscaned is more "important" than portimao or COTA or interlagos that will come with an DLC
They are real life world tracks, how more, how better, more fun.
And if they are laserscaned, well more than perfect, but don't gonna stop playing sims because of lacking laserscan..
You don't have fps stuttering in Barcelona? Well you're a lucky boy then,because everyone i know had problems, some tracks you have even light stuttering going alone.
Physics and FFB is important in a sim,but they all stay games,none is perfect, assetto either.
PCars has better online(less bugged and more options) , better camera settings, VoF settings, graphics settings that improve performance, live delta time, time tables, button mapping, telemetry, keyboard / button box compatibility, better performance, custom hud options,pedal and wheel calibration, really good UDP compatibility and go on.
So,for me globally pcars 1 outshine assetto.
Yes,physics is a step behind, FFB is really 🤬 to get some good feeling, but once you achieve it, for me it isn't so complicated switch between the 2 sims.
GT Sport will outsell assetto, and Pcars 2 also, you now why? Because most people play to have fun.
Real drivers use sims more for the tracks than anything else, at least 2 pro drivers we have in our team says so.
Enjoy gaming mate,don't be a fanboy, because it's nothing worthy
And 30 fps in a sim for me is unacceptable, more if it's even inconsistent as hell or with a lot of stuttering...
I dont know with what screen You play, but mine goes up to 120fps, and I'm sorry, but with clear whether, 16 cars on track pcars performance is quite better than assetto, and the GT Sport beta also.. All played on standard Ps4.
About framerates in simracing... This video will explain you some good stuff.
Like I've said a lot of times,assetto is a good sim,in physics and FFB only (consoles) and is my favourite for hotlapping... But others are just better as racing sims and have a good time with some friends and other people.
If you look for perfection and most realism, take a car and go to your local track... There You will see that even assetto is just still a game.
It's funny that you defend a game with worse support and less content, features than the PC version and paid good money for it more than the proper devs that win money with it (you don't)
Enjoy gaming mate and look forward to the positive things every different sim offers to the players
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Enjoy gaming mate,don't be a fanboy, because it's nothing worthy
I was writting my response for every part of your post. When I wrote a couple of paragraphs I encounter with this and I decided to erase all my post.
Not reading my post (I said I didnt played on Barcelona), you keep saying something that is not true (12 laser scanned and 8 dron scanned tracks), misread completely what I said and at the top of all that you call me fanboy.
Sorry, I will just spend my time in something more productive than discussing with you.
PS:
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I was writting my response for every part of your post. When I wrote a couple of paragraphs I encounter with this and I decided to erase all my post.
Not reading my post (I said I didnt played on Barcelona), you keep saying something that is not true (12 laser scanned and 8 dron scanned tracks), misread completely what I said and at the top of all that you call me fanboy.
Sorry, I will just spend my time in something more productive than discussing with you.
PS:
I've read that you don't play on Barcelona, no problem, Silverstone, nordschleife has the same problems, let say the complete game, and you very well now that I'm not the only one saying that.
Still, for pcars2 nordschleife get scanned and it's 20 tracks.
For you there's assetto, and the rest is crap... That in my opinion is being an fanboy.
At least try assetto PC,then you probably don't gonna defend so much anymore the console version or talk so good of the support.
Like I've said, enjoy racing games and if you want a real thing go and do some trackdays.
See you around
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Do you think Im stupid or the rest of the people on the forum are stupid?
2. I critized a lot Assetto, included the developer and I also praised a lot other games, included PCars1, 2 and the developer included.
3. I dont give a damn that you call me fanboy. You are capable of discussing with the boss of Assetto, Stefano Casillo himself of how the game works, or denying that SLRE it's more realistic than Dirt rally on tarmac even when it's showed to you visual obvious proofs. I just dont care because that's coming from a person that has an absurdly distorted image of reality. To add that, you are unable to recognize that you are wrong even when obvious, factual and objective proofs are shown to you, so when you encounter with someone with a different opinion, it's just a matter of time you call him fanboy or try to discredit his opinion.
That's funny because is one of the things I critize the most.
Bad from me for answering, but I just felt so much bull:censored: lies had to be pointed out. Next post I won't read it, because I know this is going no where and probably you will keep on lying or trying to win the discussion (and I will be forced to give the lie to that) for what ever reason. Probably same reason why you are unable to admit you are wrong.
1. According to scaff, it's against the rules of the site to call other user fanboy.
2. I critized a lot Assetto, included the developer and I also praised a lot other games, included PCars1, 2 and the developer included.
3. I dont give a damn that you call me fanboy. You are capable of discussing with the boss of Assetto, Stefano Casillo himself of how the game works, or denying that SLRE it's more realistic than Dirt rally on tarmac even when it's showed to you visual obvious proofs. I just dont care because that's coming from a person that has an absurdly distorted image of reality. To add that, you are unable to recognize that you are wrong even when obvious, factual and objective proofs are shown to you, so when you encounter with someone with a different opinion, it's just a matter of time you call him fanboy or try to discredit his opinion.
That's funny because is one of the things I critize the most.
Bad from me for answering, but I just felt so much bull:censored: lies had to be pointed out. Next post I won't read it, because I know this is going no where and probably you will keep on lying or trying to win the discussion (and I will be forced to give the lie to that) for what ever reason. Probably same reason why you are unable to admit you are wrong.
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Did i call you stupid? No
Did i call the rest of the people of the forum stupid? No
1-I wouldn't called you fanboy if you didn't seem one, like I've said, there's assetto for you, the rest is crap, you always try to down the other sims.
2- i discussed with Stefano, yes,i don't fear nobody, in PC version you can open a server (custom lobby) for free if you got strong connection or rent a server.
Ask to people here.
3- i always said that dirt rally has to much grip on tarmac, increased grip levels in an update, you easily can find it in the games update changelist.
A video, made by you,i just don't care, lower grip level of the tyres and you will achieve the "donuts" you're looking for.
You're reading comprehension isn't on top.
For ME GLOBALLY dirt rally give more realistic sensations than SLRE,that on a ps4 goes at crappie 30fps compared to solid 60fps of dirt rally.
SLRE has also input lag with steering wheels, and was improved with an update.
You didn't look forward to the chancelogs on milestone website either aren't ya?
For you there's isn't input lag in SLRE or bad framerate just like there isn't stuttering in Assetto...
Great for you then that you aren't sensitive to those things.
But a good amount of people see the opposite as you and that is why there's so much reports of performance issues.
5- I've got some good discussions with different points of view with lot of people, and don't have to win a discussion.
I'm not perfect, and can get things wrong, just like you and every single person on the world.
When I've said that Pcars 2 will have 20 track scanned,i don't care that the scan system is mounted on a car or a dron.
The difference is imperticible as Ian Bell stated out.
But hey! It me the 🤬
liar...
I also maintain that a sim game stays a game, none is perfect, if you want real life take your car and do some trackdays, i recommend it really to you.
It's fun and exciting!
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Well we where also talking about the performance of assetto and other aspects of the game, but sure.
Let go on topic, i finished the discussion with the other user...
Ontopic.... Mmmm
Any bet on when we will have news about next 1.15 update and realese date of the update and RTR DLC?
My bet goes to mid-end of September.
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I dont expect big news. RTR is coming, if they haven't changed their comunication (for example now they dont say anything about the update until it's in submission), probably in september. From here to the end of the year there is room for another big update (leaderboards? UDP?), nothing else.
The biggest hope for the console version development is that they've hired 4-5 guys and that the development will still continue on 2018 (although Laguna Seca almost for sure wont come before 2018).
If not, they dont have the time until the end of the year to step up with the PC version in the spots we could be, solve the bugs or add major features like leadeboards (not present on PC but many people on the official forum asked for it).
The biggest hope for the console version development is that they've hired 4-5 guys and that the development will still continue on 2018 (although Laguna Seca almost for sure wont come before 2018).
If not, they dont have the time until the end of the year to step up with the PC version in the spots we could be, solve the bugs or add major features like leadeboards (not present on PC but many people on the official forum asked for it).
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I fully expect Assetto Corsa console activity to come to almost a halt once PCars 2 & GTSport are released. There will still be a few people visiting this forum, I'll bet. It will be interesting to see how the people split - who goes in for GTSport and who goes in for PCars 2. I understand why there is a lot of excitement for PCars 2 upcoming release...Are any of you guys more interested in GTSport than you are PCars 2? If so, do you mind sharing why you're more interested in GTSport? I don't have access to either GTS or PC2, so I can't offer a personal opinion.
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I will play the three. They all offer things the others dont have. Assetto for cutomized offline championships with wheel: BOP, new AI, great car list (specially street cars stuff), very customizable and who knows what improvements will Stefano develop in the future (AI pit stops). GT for online racing probably with pad and a bit with wheel: much more similar online system to Iracing than PCars2. And PCars2 for a bit of everything (offline career, private leagues, open lobbies) with the wheel: superb track list and motorsport car list, day, night, dynamic time and weather, PCars1 online system (more or less) with rating...
Although you dont know how you will enjoy the games until you have them. And it's possible I change my mind after the release. For example Dirt 4 is not a priority anymore for me after Ive seen what people have said: not as good driving as Dirt Rally, not enoughly good improvement on tarmac, rally stage generator is not as good as we thought, kamikaze helicopter...
They all are games I will get sooner or later.
Although you dont know how you will enjoy the games until you have them. And it's possible I change my mind after the release. For example Dirt 4 is not a priority anymore for me after Ive seen what people have said: not as good driving as Dirt Rally, not enoughly good improvement on tarmac, rally stage generator is not as good as we thought, kamikaze helicopter...
They all are games I will get sooner or later.
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I was just thinking about this, and what a shame it is, how divided racers have become.
You said console, although I assume you meant PS4, since you didn't mention FM7.
Between GTS, FM7, PCars2, and AC, plus AC and PCArs2 available on both consoles and PC, FM on xbox and PC, that's 9 outlets.
I love having all the games, but so many drivers spread across so many games isn't optimal.
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The GTS beta didn't stop me playing Assetto Corsa. Pro Cars 2 won't either. (unless its got better physics and force feedback)
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I probably jump into AC once they bring new DLCs but i see competitive racers move to PC2 due to all around better presentation (save online replays, real world liveries, wide variety of tracks) that will make online league racing huge.
GTS and FM7 are both the same old story. Forza will have the same handling model which puts pad players on an advantage.
GTS and FM7 are both the same old story. Forza will have the same handling model which puts pad players on an advantage.
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You're probably right. And if the physics and FFB are good and stuff mostly works as it should I'll probably be spending a lot more time with it than AC. I'm not getting my hopes up though, we'll see how it turns out.
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I don't gonna buy GT Sport, to less offline content, to much fictional cars and tracks and The online rating system that didn't conveced me at all in the Beta. Maybe when it's available for 15€ in second hand.
Pcars 2 will fall on launch day, and go on with our online racing leagues, and also play offline.
Assetto, i will keep playing it,it's my favourite hotlapping sim for physics and FFB... And also some online racing leagues, but if the performance of Pcars 2 is better than the one of assetto... Well, then it's more than probably that we stop online racing in Assetto...
I really would like to see an performance improvement update of assetto getting rid of the stuttering and some good bug fixes
Pcars 2 will fall on launch day, and go on with our online racing leagues, and also play offline.
Assetto, i will keep playing it,it's my favourite hotlapping sim for physics and FFB... And also some online racing leagues, but if the performance of Pcars 2 is better than the one of assetto... Well, then it's more than probably that we stop online racing in Assetto...
I really would like to see an performance improvement update of assetto getting rid of the stuttering and some good bug fixes
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I try to stay on top of the state of the console version of Assetto Corsa, well, at least the PS4 version since the XBox version got sidetracked with such an enormous delay in updating. Anyway, for as much as i try to keep up, I can never remember exactly where the PS4 version stands...but, I will say that I didn't know about the stuttering problems/screen tearing. I do remember hearing about a bit of that on console launch and even after an update or two, but I thought they took care of that.
@Donnced, I recently read one of your posts that mentioned the stuttering. Can you tell me, does that stuttering happen even while hot lapping, or running a Special Event/Career Mode Event, or racing with 4-5 friends? Or does it only stutter once you get up to 10-16 people on track? I don't know why I thought that problem was taken care of for everyone.
I share a very similar opinion with @BrandonW77 regarding the upcoming titles. If pCars 2 is all that and a bag of chips, there will proudly be a copy running on my computer. However, it all comes down to FFB & Physics for me. If pCars 2 is 100% equal to AC in terms of FFB & Physics, better in graphics, as good or better in sound I would probably stay with AC as my core sim, but I'd probably still buy pCars 2 just to be able to speak intelligently about the sim with others. I've made my feelings very well known for people who have opinions on games they've never played. I refuse to be that guy. Anyway, I probably would stick with AC as my everyday sim because it wouldn't be a big enough reason to switch...especially considering the amount of mods (cars & tracks) I can download for AC. Say what you will about the graphics of AC - they don't bother me in the slightest. I think they're totally fine - same with sounds (some older Kunos cars need updating).
But, if pCars is remarkedly better than AC in what I consider bonus areas and I feel the driving is better - pCars 2 here I come. I just laugh at people who hold allegiance to a brand, like the brand gives a single crap about you in return.
I was shocked to see how many butt hurt Gran Turismo players there are when many were abandoning GT6 for pCars 1 & Assetto Corsa. Actually, it was kind of funny to watch their childlike behavior emerge just because they felt abandoned. Get over it. There are 1,000+ crappy mods for Assetto Corsa. There are a few hundred awesome to good mods as well. That's why it's always hard for me to follow when someone says "AC needs moar tracks!!"
I forget that console users are stuck with only the Kunos tracks. 99% of downloadable tracks aren't as good as Kunos quality and they certainly aren't as close in terms of accuracy...but at least it keeps the boredom at bay. Something console users would probably kill for. 
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