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Peter Boese
The only way the can prevent Copyright issues is an integrated mod store, like the steam workshop. If they really want only legal mods, like they say, they have no other option.
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... And that is only if it's free. Paid content wouldn't be possible without proper licensing agreement, and a commercial license for a car is way out of any profitable range for a modder. Beside, some brands are already famous for hunting down modding of their copyright properties (For exemple Nintendo, Disney, or... Ferrari), even for "non-profit" production. What if Kunos puts a "validate" stamp on a Ferrari car, upload it on the store and Ferrari sued the modder for copyright infringement ? It would put them in a very fragile situation.

@ninezeroniner It may sound quite ugly, but the best possible strategy for a thriving modding community is hardly a reproductible one, unfortunatly. And AC has made a very good exemple of it.
Indeed, Kunos can't really be "at risk" for the current situation of AC, but repeating the same strategy would be a no-go for any brands who wants a slice of the cake, or any brand who DON'T want it to be reproduced elsewhere. They have to follow through their conditions, which are probably "keep your dogs on a leach".

Long story short : play AC, be happy :cheers: (sing along, everyone!)
 
racinjoe013
Istanbul Park 2021

Istanbul Park 2021

I completed most of my updates for the istanbul_park track done by Enver Bozkaya (SRTR), ACU, OSRW & the AC Reboot Team. All credit for the track go to those guys, not me. I had intended it to be a mod for the original track, but the list of changes grew bigger than expected so I decided to keep it a standalone track. I know some people hate that and some like it, but I think it was necessary.

I do intend to keep tweaking things moving forward, but I think the track is in a good enough place now for people to enjoy. I would still like to get a better look for the inner grass and I have to figure out a better setup for the main straight windows. I'd like them to be transparent, but can't seem to figure out why they are so dark.

If you are using any of my past test versions, please delete the old track folder first.

List of changes from the past test versions:

-- Changed the track name to Istanbul Park 2021 since I based a lot of my changes around an F1 2021 video.
-- Grass tweaks, still not where I want it.
-- Time of day and lap number displays for the start gantry.
-- A few more trees added to dead space areas.
-- Fixed a reversed sponsor banner on one of the bridges. Let me know if I missed any other ones please.
-- Collision physics to some of the tyrewalls that were missing them.
-- I prefer the kerb cones as non-moveable objects, so by default they are pass thru objects. If you prefer them to be moveable, there is a track skin named MoveableKerbCones that you can enable so they move again.
-- Support for Pyyer's F1 Classics and Bring it Back extensions. Please read the included Directions text file so you know how to install what's needed for his extensions. It's pretty simple. Install my track. Install his extensions into my track folder. Install the contents of the 'Files_for_Pyyer_extensions' folder and overwrite when it asks. I tested each extension and didn't see any issues, but please let me know if I screwed up any of them.

As always, feedback for improvements is welcome as well as pointing out any mistakes I made.
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After watching the Valtteri Bottas 2021 pole lap video over and over again, I think I finally got the carpet areas right as per the 2021 F1 race. Some areas the cones stayed, some were removed and replaced with the little speed bumps (i'm sure they have a more official name). Just download the update file from the link below. The full track download includes these updated files for future downloads.

rj_istanbul_park updates
 
Chevrolet Corvette Z06 2006 Public Release!!
Download: https://sharemods.com/390rtzc4tbos/chevrolet_corvette_z06_2006_101creative.zip.html
Converted From FM4
-AO inside and out
-Realistic Dashboard
-Physics By VRDRIVING
-CSP Settings
-Driver Animation
-Panoramic session Start config Daniel Nogal
-Beta testing and help ,@norms,@Mascot,and others

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petercrill
Chevrolet Corvette Z06 2006 Public Release!!...
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Thanks! As good as always, but... it can be seen reflections of the road on the edge of the inner windshield frame, and it's very annoying while driving...

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I've looked for a solution in my Jedi trick box, but I haven't been able to solve it...
 
jac0
I'm having a blast with a Hot Wheels car mod "Hot wheels: Rivited" by Taro Kitano (Presumebly)
(on Rainmaker's new 1970 Oval which is awesome btw)

but the GEAR doesn't show correctly... even when shifting , it remains showing "000000" instead of the actual gear:
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Any ideas how to fix?

This is what's in the digital_instruments.ini :

[ITEM_0]
PARENT=DISPLAY_DATA
POSITION=-0.0001,0.031,-0.001
TYPE=GEAR
SIZE=0.02
COLOR=170,170,170,255
INTENSITY=1.0
FONT=audi_vln
VERSION=2
ALIGN=CENTER
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Anyone?
once it's fixed I'll share the fixed car with some extra skins

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jac0
Anyone?
once it's fixed I'll share the fixed car with some extra skins

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Check ext_config.ini

I'd search for "odo". Item 0 is probably used as a dummy, only to be overwritten by a csp-function in ext_config (like kilometerstand). If you DM me the ext_config I can explain in more detail.

Perico Lospa
Thanks! As good as always, but... it can be seen reflections of the road on the edge of the inner windshield frame, and it's very annoying while driving...

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I've looked for a solution in my Jedi trick box, but I haven't been able to solve it...
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If you know the mesh name you can use ext_config.ini to move it to the COCKPIT_HR.

From the top of my mind it's:

[MESH_ADJUSTMENT_...]
MESHES = name of mesh
MOVE_TO = COCKPIT_HR

As long as a mesh or material is placed inside the COCKPIT_HR dummy/node it will not reflect the outside world. (not actually true, it will be masked by a "silhoutte" of the car-interior.)
 
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Alguecool
They cannot be held responsible for the modding content, but they are aware of the very-high proportion of it being illegal by essence. Trouble is, they do need licences and contracts with brands to do their game, otherwise it would be an empty shell, and they cannot legitimately go in front of them playing the innocent card saying that what their community is doing is not of their concern. Imagine going on a negotiation meeting with Ferrari's lawyers and saying "well, lets sign a contract for licences on a few cars, no need to sign for all of them, the rest will be accessible from other sources anyway". You wont get away with that. Kunos is torn between 2 incompatible choices.
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if modders want to sell their mods on the market place that Kunos will make, then they need a licensing agreement for it, its why RSS, VRC, URD use fake names. its a way to get around it, you can do the same with tracks, just no real life logos at all. that would be the same for all the skinners that want to have their skins for the car to be on the marketplace. now outside of the market place there is no limit
 
cool3865
if modders want to sell their mods on the market place that Kunos will make, then they need a licensing agreement for it, its why RSS, VRC, URD use fake names. its a way to get around it, you can do the same with tracks, just no real life logos at all. that would be the same for all the skinners that want to have their skins for the car to be on the marketplace. now outside of the market place there is no limit
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Tbh this whole practise is still very, very gray. Shapes can also be an intellectual property of someone. If things were that simple in real life, then I could download Star Wars, change the opening scene so it says Galactic Conflict and then re-dubbed it, so there is no R2-D2, but J21-P37 for example. Using that logic, I would be fine, cause I changed the name. It's still the same move, but with a different name!

With circuits there seems to be a precedence, so you can do full Monza and simply call it Brianza, but with cars no game producer wants to risk. That's why Formula USA in Automobilista 2 looks like IndyCar car designed by Homer Simpson.

The biggest issue in the whole modding conundrum is the money aspect. If you publish mods for free, you should be in the clear (I AM NOT A LAWYER), because you are in the clear. However if you earn money based on someone's IP... Some actual lawyers might get their paychecks.
 
Alguecool
... And that is only if it's free. Paid content wouldn't be possible without proper licensing agreement, and a commercial license for a car is way out of any profitable range for a modder. Beside, some brands are already famous for hunting down modding of their copyright properties (For exemple Nintendo, Disney, or... Ferrari), even for "non-profit" production. What if Kunos puts a "validate" stamp on a Ferrari car, upload it on the store and Ferrari sued the modder for copyright infringement ? It would put them in a very fragile situation.

@ninezeroniner It may sound quite ugly, but the best possible strategy for a thriving modding community is hardly a reproductible one, unfortunatly. And AC has made a very good exemple of it.
Indeed, Kunos can't really be "at risk" for the current situation of AC, but repeating the same strategy would be a no-go for any brands who wants a slice of the cake, or any brand who DON'T want it to be reproduced elsewhere. They have to follow through their conditions, which are probably "keep your dogs on a leach".

Long story short : play AC, be happy :cheers: (sing along, everyone!)
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Yeah easypeasy, I'll happily drift away from this nightmare of possibilities :cheers:
Weekend's here!
 
racinjoe013
After watching the Valtteri Bottas 2021 pole lap video over and over again, I think I finally got the carpet areas right as per the 2021 F1 race. Some areas the cones stayed, some were removed and replaced with the little speed bumps (i'm sure they have a more official name). Just download the update file from the link below. The full track download includes these updated files for future downloads.

rj_istanbul_park updates
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Your dogged determination to get this right, is both admirably on-brand, and, perversly, entertaining to watch play out :)
Your efforts highly appreciated, sir :cheers:
 
Im hoping that if Kunos is going to rein in the wild west modding scene then they do something like Farming Simulator's official mod browser or Snowrunner's mod.io integration 🤞
 
kawtronics
The biggest issue in the whole modding conundrum is the money aspect. If you publish mods for free, you should be in the clear (I AM NOT A LAWYER), because you are in the clear. However if you earn money based on someone's IP... Some actual lawyers might get their paychecks.
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In short, if what you did is free of charge, so "non-profit", that means you didn't get any advantage (money) out of it. You're not legally in the clear, but no team of lawyer will hunt you down for something that is not profitable for you, and free advertising for their client. Win/win situation. With the exception of Nintendo, dudes are crazy with their product identity, don't you dare make your own mario with hookers and cocaïne, I tell ya.

An intellectual property is commonly understand as "At least 90% identical". Changing names is a way of avoiding it which works in some parts of the world (Russia, for exemple) but doesn't elsewhere (USA or France, for exemple), where a counterfeit remains a counterfeit, whatever name you put on it.

EDIT : @Twisteddrift looks a lot like Gilles75 is back hahaha Don't. just don't.
 
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BruceD
Just to be clear, does one get absolved from their sins for driving a Porsche 911 GT1 or does it have to be around Mantorp Park as well? Asking for a friend...
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The first, the first... driving a 911 GT1 (please to put a green of envy emoji here)... The closest I have come to driving a car of a certain level is reduced to a couple of corners in a parking lot with a Lancer EVO IV and a couple of iddle accelerations in a Ferrari Testarossa... Sad resume, although I console myself with my Abarth 595...😢

By the way, I miss half of the joke; I don't know if Mantorp Park is a den of vice and perversion, or something similar... I'm going to take a look at BSL (Breathe's Sacred List), as that track is not among the ones I have on AC.
 
Perico Lospa
... it can be seen reflections of the road on the edge of the inner windshield frame...
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Tummie555
... If you know the mesh name you can use ext_config.ini to move it to the COCKPIT_HR.

From the top of my mind it's:

[MESH_ADJUSTMENT_...]
MESHES = name of mesh
MOVE_TO = COCKPIT_HR

As long as a mesh or material is placed inside the COCKPIT_HR dummy/node it will not reflect the outside world. (not actually true, it will be masked by a "silhoutte" of the car-interior.)
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Thank you, my Master, this trick has really worked... I'm saving it in favorites for future reference. In case anyone is interested, and until a definitive solution appears (if appears), add this...

[MESH_ADJUSTMENT_...]
MESHES = che_corvettez06_06_cockpit_glassF_black___231_vertices_342_faces
MOVE_TO = COCKPIT_HR

...at the end of ext_config.ini.

I haven't understood very well about that thing that the mesh being masked, so I don't know if using this shortcut with other interior pieces that have texture or color will look good, but in this case it looks great, since that edge is now left in plain black color, without the damn road reflection...

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Thanks again for teaching me something new!
 
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Alguecool
If they are all handcrafted and not stolen why not, there should be no limitation to what's available.

@Peter Boese I completely agree with you, but I'm more concerned about one particular aspect, especially regarding paid mods : licensing. RSS or VRC are good exemples of the "avoidance strategy", even quite hypocritical it is technically, more or less, legal. But that prevent the user to get a "real names and badge" add-on, which would probably be denied on an official marketplace (even if, still, legal in theory). Skinmakers could also get into trouble quite often (you can't sell a visual representation of a brand or trademark without their consent), especially for the newer stuff as it is probably way more monitored than vintage content. Same goes for tracks if they are trademarked, which is the vast majority of them.
To be able to sell those without the proper copyright agreement from the seller, at least the marketplace would need a general agreement, or contract towards those brands to certify the rights to sell, which would be near impossible to have (many, many loopholes ahead... or, way too expensive).
It could be very good news for paidmod control and restriction, compared to the ****show it is today, but also a pretty repulsive one leading to the plummeting of the offer, therefor of the users. Or Am I missing something ?

It's a really complicated subject.
I would love to have a chat with Kunos' lawyer team to learn and understand more of this.
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these patreon types should be forced by Kunos to pay for real car licences to have their mods in the proposed mod setup they are doing. if you are going to make money from mods, why not pay licenses?
 
Alguecool
In short, if what you did is free of charge, so "non-profit", that means you didn't get any advantage (money) out of it. You're not legally in the clear, but no team of lawyer will hunt you down for something that is not profitable for you, and free advertising for their client. Win/win situation. With the exception of Nintendo, dudes are crazy with their product identity, don't you dare make your own mario with hookers and cocaïne, I tell ya.

An intellectual property is commonly understand as "At least 90% identical". Changing names is a way of avoiding it which works in some parts of the world (Russia, for exemple) but doesn't elsewhere (USA or France, for exemple), where a counterfeit remains a counterfeit, whatever name you put on it.

EDIT : @Twisteddrift looks a lot like Gilles75 is back hahaha Don't. just don't.
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Ford did worst at one time, suing the Black Mustang Club of America for making and selling calendar they made out of members cars, sold only to those very member

https://jalopnik.com/black-mustang-club-tussles-then-makes-nice-with-ford-o-344007
 
andrevr
Your dogged determination to get this right, is both admirably on-brand, and, perversly, entertaining to watch play out :)
Your efforts highly appreciated, sir :cheers:
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OCD is both funny and frustrating at times. And unfortunately, I have it again. I ran a race on one of the F1 layouts last night and noticed the brake markers are missing. It's a simple fix, but I hate to keep putting out these small updates. I imagine people are getting tired of them.
 
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