AU Playstation mag confirms Holden, Ford
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For that very reason is the same reason I'm quite pleased with this.
Only an '04 BA F6 Typhoon, even the BA GT that was in GT4 isn't in PSP. For record, the BA was facelifted to BF in '05 and in '08/'09 the completely new FG Falcon was released and has major performance upgrades making the FPV F6 one of the best sports sedans in the world under $100k AUD.
Bolwell, Carbontech, Elfin and JOSS would be superb additions. Goggomobile though, since when has that been Australian? They're Bavarian.
I have no idea what Maybach Special is or Roman AutoTek, but Valiant Australia and the Lleyland P76 Sedan would be good Australian additions.
I very much so beg to differ, because an HSV Maloo laps just as quickly as an Aston Martin DB9 as demonstrated by Top Gear, and all reviews point to the VE Ute being more of a driver's car than the sedan and in some circumstances has even managed to be quicker too, but certainly loses nothing at all to its sedan counterpart. Brute Utes are pretty popular btw, everyone loves watching them.
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Thats scary, so many cars and so little space, i'm surprised they managed to avoid hitting eachother.
Personally i think the Mitsubishi Evo X is the best sports sedan in the world. Although the FPV is probably the most exciting
And has a clear advantage on the straights no doubt, and is probably more fun to drive (I havn't driven either, but the evo is easier, the FPV is more fun thats my take on it)I don't know much about Australian motorsport or car brands, so i'm hoping we see more in GT5, its good to have as much variety as possible in this game.
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Yeah I see the aftermarth after each race, I remember when the VE car (Sage) was was nice clean and straight, now take a close look and pretty much everything has been bent and dented then bent back into a form that looks good enough. They play rough. Now if only they would allow double row timing chains on the Holden engines again we wouldn't have so many failures and expenses.
It's the Dart! (Australian joke)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goggomobil_Dart
http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/car/3159/Maybach-Special-Mk-1.html
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Was still sold as the Goggomobil Dart in Australia only (using a unique body and some parts) so it is a Australian model/car, Dart should have been added to Johns post implying the model not the whole manufacturer is Australian.
The Maybach is just a discarded parts bin in a car raced in Australia & NZ so it doesn't really matter.
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Ahh this is GREAT news. I was waiting for a confirmation about Aussie cars in GT5, I was getting quite worried. I kept thinking "please include the Aussie cars that were in GT4 AT LEAST". Even with that I would of been happy with but knowing there will be more is fantastic news.
I'll have my fix with a FPV GT and a VZ or VE SS, maybe even the walkinshaw editions. Oh and I'd love to see some classics...GTHO Phase 3 please! mmm
I'll have my fix with a FPV GT and a VZ or VE SS, maybe even the walkinshaw editions. Oh and I'd love to see some classics...GTHO Phase 3 please! mmm
You won't find real v8 supercars in GT5. You'll find Forza probably have the naming rights to those cars in their games considering how much VESA have been giving it air time on seven.
If anything we'll get FG 01 and VE 06 'or what ever its called' as neither cars are confined to the v8 supercar series.
Holden and Ford won't have a massive catalogue to choose from. I'd expect the F6, GT and the GTS and W427 as they represent the flagship models of each brand.
If anything we'll get FG 01 and VE 06 'or what ever its called' as neither cars are confined to the v8 supercar series.
Holden and Ford won't have a massive catalogue to choose from. I'd expect the F6, GT and the GTS and W427 as they represent the flagship models of each brand.
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The F6, GT, GTS and W427 are not Holden or Ford, technically, they are FPV and HSV respectively. And since KY has not confirmed FPV or HSV (although FPV was in GT4) I wouldn't get my hopes up. Although I would LOVE some great Aussie muscle in there...
You know what I would love? To race the HRT427 around Bathurst. Shame they didn't produce that weapon of a car... GT5 could though
And it would absolutely be the ducks nuts, I would salivate, scream with joy from the roof tops, if there were some modern V8 Supercars in there. Off Topic - went to Surfers for the Nikon in the weekend and saw the Supercars racing around the streets - amazing. I have a small amount footage if anyone wants it, suppose I could do a YouTube vid
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One thing, will Ford be seperate or will it just be US based?
In GT4, the US based Ford sold its European models (I am right in thinking the Focus is for the European market and not sold on the same scale in the US?)
Does it mean Ford will have a section in Australia, or will they just put it under the American based manufacturer?
In GT4, the US based Ford sold its European models (I am right in thinking the Focus is for the European market and not sold on the same scale in the US?)
Does it mean Ford will have a section in Australia, or will they just put it under the American based manufacturer?
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The F6, GT, GTS and W427 are not Holden or Ford, technically, they are FPV and HSV respectively. And since KY has not confirmed FPV or HSV (although FPV was in GT4) I wouldn't get my hopes up. Although I would LOVE some great Aussie muscle in there...
You know what I would love? To race the HRT427 around Bathurst. Shame they didn't produce that weapon of a car... GT5 could though
And it would absolutely be the ducks nuts, I would salivate, scream with joy from the roof tops, if there were some modern V8 Supercars in there. Off Topic - went to Surfers for the Nikon in the weekend and saw the Supercars racing around the streets - amazing. I have a small amount footage if anyone wants it, suppose I could do a YouTube vid
Was at Oran Park last year for Skaifes send off, marvelous track and couldn't believe they're ripping it down. Only Ipswich beats it for total track view, but its as boring as.
Amazing just how much the camera slows the cars down. Even the mini series cars fly around.
I highly doubt Bathurst will be included in the game yet. Lovely track 'and its amazing to drive around in person', but it's not well known enough. Showed a couple or euros the last few laps of bathurst the other day, and all of them fell in love with the circuit.
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the Nations Cup Monaro would be good. I have a feeling we're going to see
Holden and HSV:
VZ Monaro
VE Clubsport and VE Maloo
VZ SS or VE SS or perhaps SSV
VE SV6
Ford and FPV:
BF or FG F6
BF or FG XR8 and XR6 Turbo
BF or FG GT and/or GT-P
Just seems to fit because we had the BA F6 and GT, VYII Monaro and VYII SS for GT4.
As for V8 Supercars. Probably a BF or FG FPR Falcon and a VE HRT Commodore.
Don't know so much about Aussie tracks, but as others have said Bathrust, Oran park.. all those would be lovely. Sandown too is a personal favourite, and lets not forget Adelaide Street Circuit.
EDIT: Forgot the T on Bathurst.
Holden and HSV:
VZ Monaro
VE Clubsport and VE Maloo
VZ SS or VE SS or perhaps SSV
VE SV6
Ford and FPV:
BF or FG F6
BF or FG XR8 and XR6 Turbo
BF or FG GT and/or GT-P
Just seems to fit because we had the BA F6 and GT, VYII Monaro and VYII SS for GT4.
As for V8 Supercars. Probably a BF or FG FPR Falcon and a VE HRT Commodore.
Don't know so much about Aussie tracks, but as others have said Bathrust, Oran park.. all those would be lovely. Sandown too is a personal favourite, and lets not forget Adelaide Street Circuit.
EDIT: Forgot the T on Bathurst.
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Just to bring it back to other Aussie manufacturers......
JohnBM01, Roman Autotek isn't a car company, he's an aftermarket parts distributor, most well known for being MOMO's distributor in Australia. Quite a few years back they built a Holden [VS model] SS ute with huge (for it's day!) 20" MOMO rims, with full Recaro interior and massively worked blown big block pumping inexcess of 700hp@wheels. Here's a video of it doing a burnout way back in 2000.
He has done other project cars, collaborating with Ford, Holden, Mitsubishi and Toyota, so he's not a one trick pony but bottom line is he is just a distributor.
As for another one, here's something that was started in Australia, is currently in Malaysia and still building the nicest retro cars around....I present BUFORI. These guys started in my home suburb of Merrylands and built some of the most unique cars to come out of Australia, period! The V6i was the pick of the bunch, using the GM based 3.8L V6 motor that was in Buick's in the US and Commodore's here in Oz and giving it a 0-100km/h time of just over 6sec. Originally these cars were superlight, weighing from 890kg with the Mk1 which was powered by a VW 1600cc motor, the V6i was only just over 1000kg. The latest model weighs almost 1500kg now....but check it out for yourselves on their website.
BUFORI WEBSITE!!
JohnBM01, Roman Autotek isn't a car company, he's an aftermarket parts distributor, most well known for being MOMO's distributor in Australia. Quite a few years back they built a Holden [VS model] SS ute with huge (for it's day!) 20" MOMO rims, with full Recaro interior and massively worked blown big block pumping inexcess of 700hp@wheels. Here's a video of it doing a burnout way back in 2000.
He has done other project cars, collaborating with Ford, Holden, Mitsubishi and Toyota, so he's not a one trick pony but bottom line is he is just a distributor.
As for another one, here's something that was started in Australia, is currently in Malaysia and still building the nicest retro cars around....I present BUFORI. These guys started in my home suburb of Merrylands and built some of the most unique cars to come out of Australia, period! The V6i was the pick of the bunch, using the GM based 3.8L V6 motor that was in Buick's in the US and Commodore's here in Oz and giving it a 0-100km/h time of just over 6sec. Originally these cars were superlight, weighing from 890kg with the Mk1 which was powered by a VW 1600cc motor, the V6i was only just over 1000kg. The latest model weighs almost 1500kg now....but check it out for yourselves on their website.
BUFORI WEBSITE!!
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This is the GT5 news I've been waiting for, above all. Great find! I'd love to see my dream car, the E-series Maloo in the game.
New V8 supercars, please. That AU Tickford in GT3 and 4 is almost 10 years old.
Not to mention that the AU was the least successful and least liked V8 Supercar ever.
Yes I heard the commentators talking about that, do the road cars use double or single? It's a stupid regulation they put in, it has really hurt the Holden's championship this season with a few DNFs due to that regulation. I've never heard of that Maybach.
Aussies do get the Bathurst S, because all that Vauxhall is is a re-badged Walkinshaw. It's all Walkinshaw Performance kit.
I would actually kind of prefer the "prototype's" liveries. Or HRT and FPR.
Absolutely!
We'd need engine swaps though, the dopey buggers used a 4.2L for the concept which was pretty weak. Put in a 355 Holden stroker.
OK, I didn't see it on the list so I didn't think it was in there.👍
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Single row stock.
The actual reason behind the double row ban was originally engines could be built by anyone to regulated spec, a friend of mine (long time tuner, used to work in V8 Supercars) built the engines for Sage and the engines consistantly made more power than the other teams. The officials required my friend to pull the engine down many times so they could inspect and measure up the engine because they insisted Sage was cheating, after doing this many times and many dyno runs the only thing they could see that was significantly different to other built engines was the double row timing chain, so they banned it on all Holdens. As you can guess it made no difference in power but the rule stuck.
Finally they resticted the engines to be built by only one official builder and with the single row chain they're having tons of failures. Cams wont over ride the ruling made by the brute ute officials as they don't want to look foolish and step on toes.
Heres another little gem of info from my friend who is the Sage mechanic/engineer, The Holdens ECU's has some timing knocked out (otherwise stock ECU apparently) to even them up with the Ford utes which have full stock timing.
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So the ECU is de-tuned? It has perplexed me how they keep the parity, the acceleration between them is not that different, but the VE has a better chassis, lighter engine (for weight distribution) and better low end grunt. We actually prepare one of the Brute Utes in our workshop now, the iSeek Ute of Jason Gommersall (this year is his first in the series). He came back from Bathurst panel damage free which is good, but he had a shocking weekend, especially with the confusion at the starts. I loved watching 4 Brutes go side-by-side into turn 1 at Bathurst in the wet, it was the most mental and awesome thing I've ever seen.
Remind if I get a VE V8 Ute (Or any V8 Holden) to upgrade to the double row chain then.
Remind if I get a VE V8 Ute (Or any V8 Holden
) to upgrade to the double row chain then.
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Yeah a degree or two of timing taken out of the Holdens for parity.
As for timing chain, the abuse these engines and cars get (IIRC just before bathurst the Sage VE had just over 4000km's on it) it is just STUPID to even dream of running a stock timing chain.
As for timing chain, the abuse these engines and cars get (IIRC just before bathurst the Sage VE had just over 4000km's on it) it is just STUPID to even dream of running a stock timing chain.
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Well, for those who love Holden, this is good news indeed. Vector was in GT2, but didn't made it to GT4. So just because it was in one game, it doesn't mean it will be in the next one.
Personally, I liked the two Holdens that were in GT4, and as such, would love to get my hands on newer and older Holdens. 👍
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Lets not forget (only Aussies will know about these I imagine and Kiwis too probably)
the HDT Retro series. http://www.hdt.com.au/
the HDT Retro series. http://www.hdt.com.au/
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Sorry for being off topic (hence I am not em-bedding the video, just posting a link) here is the footage I was referring to in my previous post. For any people from out side Australia / New Zealand who aren't really sure what an Aussie V8 Supercar is then check out my footage of the Nikon GP last weekend in Surfers Paradise.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMC-vUu3238
I'm sure there are at least a thousand better videos out there with better footage that show them better, but I still thought I'd upload... enjoy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMC-vUu3238
I'm sure there are at least a thousand better videos out there with better footage that show them better, but I still thought I'd upload... enjoy
