Battlefield 4- Out on October 29th (current gen)

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  • Classes
    • Assault
      • Assault is the best at anti infantry. Assault rifles work in the widest variety of situations. Versatility tends to be the name of the game and the assault rifles are best at that. The grenade launcher can also be an effective anti infantry weapon.
      • However, I tend to use Defibs more often instead of the grenade launcher. Reviving teammates, assuming the area is clear of enemies, is always good. Right now, I am on a grenade launcher kick because I am tired of dying while trying to revive teammates.
      • Constantly throwing out Med Packs or Med Bag out is also a good idea. Restoring health is a good.
    • Engineer
      • Engineer is the anti vehicle class. Between rockets and mines, an Engineer can be very lethal against armor.
      • In certain situations, the Repair Tool can also be very deadly for vehicles. Catch a vehicle operator asleep at the wheel and you can destroy a vehicle before they have a clue what is happening. If those drivers get themselves into certain spots on the map, then it can also be very difficult to move the vehicle away before enough damage is done.
    • Support
      • I am not a huge fan of the Support class for most maps. Light machine guns are good for saturating an area with bullets. There are a few maps where that can be done effectively and not leave you vulnerable to enemy flaking.
        • I also tend to move around a lot. The inaccuracy of the light machine guns on the move usually requires too much of an adjustment on my part to make effective use of the weapons.
      • Being able to provide ammunition to your teammates is important and a Support not paying attention to teammates asking for ammo is incredibly annoying. Even if your teammates are not asking for ammo, go ahead assume they want it and throw that ammo pouch/box on the ground.
    • Recon
      • This class is not "Sniper". I cannot emphasize this enough. This class is not a sniper class. You are not Bob Lee Swagger. Sitting back and playing as a bush wookiee hundreds of meters away from any objective is not useful to anyone but yourself. If you play this way, then you are a giant douchebag and deserve any and all insults thrown your way. Be a teamplayer. Get that rear end in gear and move up near the objectives. Do not be a selfish douchenozzle.
      • Instead, I would suggest playing this class with a carbine. Sniper rifles have a small niche. Few players are effective enough with the sniper rifles to be able to expand beyond that small niche. A carbine combined with C4 and motion balls makes for a more than serviceable anti infantry/anti vehicle class.
        • This is one setup I should really play as more often. The versatility is outstanding and it can make for some incredibly fun gameplay. However, I tend towards Assault and Engineer because those class are more effective at their roles.
  • Weapons
    • Assault Rifles
      • Most versatile weapons in the game that tend to be best at anti infantry.
    • PDWs
      • Great in close quarters. Outside of close quarters, depending on the weapons, there is varying levels of competence. However, other weapons fill those roles better.
    • Light Machine Guns
      • Area saturation. With 100 or 200 rounds available in a magazine, there is little need to let off the trigger. You can just fill an area with lead. However, mindlessly spraying is useless.
      • Terrible on the move. Try to stay stationary when firing, otherwise the bullet spread is large.
    • Sniper Rifle
      • You are not Bob Lee Swagger. Do not try to be Bob Lee Swagger. If you do insist on using a sniper rifle, then aim to make your engagements in the 75 - 200 meter range. Any shorter and whatever weapon the enemy is using will be more effective. Any longer, judging both bullet drop and how far to lead the bullet becomes consistently difficult. Plus being a bush wookiee is highly frowned upon. Do not be that guy.
    • DMRs
      • I find these to be pretty much awful at the moment. They do not do enough damage per bullet for the amount of recoil produced. I would rather use an assault rifle or carbine instead and have a weapon that is more useful in more situations.
      • However, if you do use the DMRs, then make sure your map awareness is high, as you really need to control your engagements since most all other weapons work better.
    • Shotguns
      • Similar to PDWs, but with lesser range. I say lesser range because making sure that engagement range is short is more important compared to the PDWs.
      • Shotguns also tend to require your aim to be a bit more precise since the rate of fire is lower.
    • Carbines
      • A slightly lesser version of the assault rifles. Jack of all trades. Very nice substitute for the default weapons in the Engineer, Support, and Recon classes.
      • If an assault rifle would be the best choice, but you want to play as something other than Assault, then these are the next best option.
    • Grenades
      • The V40 Mini and RGO Impact are better than the Frag. So go with whichever you like using more instead.
  • Mash the 'Spot' key. I assume you are playing on console, so I have no idea what button that is. (If you are playing on PC, then the default key is Q.) Look in the manual or in game options and memorize that key. Once that key is permanently burned into your brain, double check and make sure what you have burned into your brain is correct. Once you are sure of that, wear the key out. When your teammates kill those people or vehicles you have spotted, you get points for mashing a key. If it your squad mates that do the killing, then you get even more points.
    • Whatever you are doing and wherever you are heading, keep hitting that key. When both you and your teammates know where people are on the other team, it makes easier to put yourself in a good position to have an advantage on opposing players.
    • Remember, no spotting means you are going to have a bad time. Spotting = good time.
  • PTFO. If you do not know what that stands for, then Google it up. After you have figured out what it stands for, then no matter what you are doing in game, it should be focused towards working towards whatever the objective is in the game mode you are playing.
    • If you are playing Conquest, then you either need to be attacking an objective or defending an objective. Avoid prolonged engagements that are not on or very near objectives. If the other team is good, then they can sacrifice a squad just to cause distractions and allow for the rest of their team easier capturing of objectives.
      • On most maps, playing as Engineer is likely going to be the best bet in Conquest, unless you have a group playing together. In Conquest, the majority of the maps so far are heavily biased towards vehicle combat. Engineer offers the most versatile counter to vehicles. I would also suggest switching to a carbine instead using the default PDWs. The PDWs can be nice, especially at very close ranges, but the carbines are more useful all around.
    • If you are playing Rush, then depending on whether you are Attacking or Defending is going to determine the approach you take.
      • When you are playing Defense, try not to stray too far away from the two MCOMs. I have been incredibly frustrated lately at getting roflstomped trying to defend the MCOMs because the rest of my team is trying to push as close as they can to the attacker's spawn, leaving little defense (read: mostly just me), and mostly ignoring the actual objectives. All it takes is one squad slipping by the battle front and you are going to have a bad time.
        • The class you play as when Defending is going to vary depending on the map and vehicles available to the attackers. If the map is vehicle heavy for the attackers, then going Engineer is probably the prudent choice. On the maps that are not vehicle heavy, playing as Assault is probably the better option, as Assault is the best anti infantry class. Your mileage is going to vary based on map.
      • When you are Attacking, you are at the mercy of your team. If your team is good and can be semi coordinated, then you have a chance. If they are all over the place and there is little to no coordination, then you are in for a bad time.
        • I tend toward Assault for the Medic Bag/Defib combo. Being able to reclaim tickets with the Defibs and keeping people alive with the Medic Bag is incredibly useful. Occasionally Engineer can be useful if the Defenders have vehicles. Right now, attackers are having a tough time. The first set of MCOMs on most maps are usually tough and the defenders tend to have a nice advantage.
    • Domination is much smaller scale, infantry only Conquest. So whatever works in Conquest will apply here.
    • I do not like Team Deathmatch. However if you do play it, then do not rush looking for revenge kills. That will get you killed often. Do not needlessly rush into things and die often.
    • Obliteration is a form of tug of war. Your team will need some kind of coordination to be effective. One coordinated squad is enough to swing the game in a team's favor.
  • EDIT: I forgot to mention anything about being a Squad Leader. If you are the Squad Leader, then for the love of all that is holy, assign an objective to attack or defend. All it takes is to aim at the objective icon and hit the spot button. If an objective is designated, then you will see four triangles pointing to the letter. By having an objective marked, any time you or squad do something to attack or defend that objective, you get extra points. Everyone likes easy points.
 
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Anyone else having stability issues on the PS3? It seems like my PS3 freezes in between every single round. I was playing with @xXKingJoshXx and almost exactly after I said I had to go, by PS3 freezes. It's getting really annoying too.
 
Anyone else having stability issues on the PS3? It seems like my PS3 freezes in between every single round. I was playing with @xXKingJoshXx and almost exactly after I said I had to go, by PS3 freezes. It's getting really annoying too.

My PS3 froze once or twice while playing BF4 as well, and later while playing GT6. It seems to freeze all the time anymore...
 
Hmmm.
Hi guys.
Just got bf4 for chrimbo.
Got a code for china rising.
Added it in-game.
It said thanks for using PSN then did nothing.
Now the code is spent.
Yay.
I've done the campaign in like, 5 minutes or something and had two total lock ups in online.
I've unlocked something called DMR in recon class, but can't access the part of the menu to see what I unlocked.
It loox like BF4 is in superb post-release 🤬 condition as usual......

:irked:👍
 
I would guess that you should have access to the China Rising maps now. Did you have an update available for BF4? If so, was it a fairly big one?

If you have unlocked something called DMR, then that means you have access to the first DMR weapon, the RFB. It is an all kit weapon and can be used instead of the primary weapon for any class.

I cannot offer any advice on navigating the menus on console.
 
Thanks Brett.
That was kinda my point though.
I know what the china rising code should have done.
But it did nothing.
I can't access those maps on multiplayer.
Loox like I should be playing this game on PC really, judging by how many friends I see playing it.....

:irked:👍
 
Thanks Brett.
That was kinda my point though.
I know what the china rising code should have done.
But it did nothing.
I can't access those maps on multiplayer.
Loox like I should be playing this game on PC really, judging by how many friends I see playing it.....

:irked:👍

Check to see if its in your downloads and if its there re-download the maps.

I got BF4 for PS4, are PS3 and PS4 capable of playing in the same match through PSN?

Battlefield 4 dose not do cross play with ps3 and ps4 players.
 
So since I had bought the game for PS3, I decided to do the $10 upgrade for the PS4 since I've finally gotten hold of one.

I feel as though it's a lot more polished than it was on PS3. The PS3 version felt half assed, whereas it just plays a hell of a lot better on PS4. Rather impressed.
 
: @DEP98 , @xXKingJoshXx , and I just had a few amazing rounds. We completely dominated most of the time. It was awesome. :lol: 👍

Even though I was apparently "camping" the whole time? ;) FYI guys - sniping =/= camping. If you have that logic of thinking sniping is camping, you don't belong on BF.

It was fun having 35 heart attacks at the same time. I was getting shot at - while riding a quad - while inside a building - while stuck - while the building was collapsing on top of me. I made it out, though. :D
 
So since I had bought the game for PS3, I decided to do the $10 upgrade for the PS4 since I've finally gotten hold of one.

I feel as though it's a lot more polished than it was on PS3. The PS3 version felt half assed, whereas it just plays a hell of a lot better on PS4. Rather impressed.

Yeah same for me, putting aside the graphics,64 player matches is awesome and the whole game just feels smoother.
 
Even though I was apparently "camping" the whole time? ;) FYI guys - sniping =/= camping. If you have that logic of thinking sniping is camping, you don't belong on BF.

It was fun having 35 heart attacks at the same time. I was getting shot at - while riding a quad - while inside a building - while stuck - while the building was collapsing on top of me. I made it out, though. :D
The way you were sniping, sitting in team base shooing a sniper rifle couple hundred meters away, not benefiting the team in anyway, is considered camping in the Battlefield community.
 
The way you were sniping, sitting in team base shooing a sniper rifle couple hundred meters away, not benefiting the team in anyway, is considered camping in the Battlefield community.

I will admit on one match I was sniping from inside a building close to our team's base, but the rest of the time I was moving consistently.

I like to snipe. Sorry that it upsets some of you that I don't play the game how you want me to.
 
If you have that logic of thinking sniping is camping, you don't belong on BF.

Sorry that it upsets some of you that I don't play the game how you want me to.

Quite.

Even though I'm sure I don't need to say this, what WHaT described - a player sitting near or in their uncap with a sniper rifle - is pretty much the definition of camping. Saying sniping isn't camping is fair enough if you weren't camping, but camping with a sniper rifle does not excuse the camping part. I liked WHaT's post (I assume I'm one of the 'some of you' for that reason) because they summed up what camping is. If you want to camp then camp, just don't deny that you were when someone calls you out. I take pride in admitting that I play cheaply sometimes, everyone does or has at least once and anyone who says otherwise is lying.
 
Even though I'm sure I don't need to say this, what WHaT described - a player sitting near or in their uncap with a sniper rifle - is pretty much the definition of camping. Saying sniping isn't camping is fair enough if you weren't camping, but camping with a sniper rifle does not excuse the camping part. I liked WHaT's post (I assume I'm one of the 'some of you' for that reason) because they summed up what camping is. If you want to camp then camp, just don't deny that you were when someone calls you out. I take pride in admitting that I play cheaply sometimes, everyone does or has at least once and anyone who says otherwise is lying.

Did you even read my post above yours? :rolleyes:

The only time I was "camping" was one match. It wasn't even the whole match. I don't get why this is such a big deal, excuse me for not playing this like I would play Call of Duty.
 
Did you even read my post above yours? :rolleyes:

Yeah, you did seem quite insecure about being accused of camping though, as if you think it's a bad thing to be caught doing... Why else would your first response be 'guys, sniping isn't camping so don't play BF4 if you disagree', your second 'well I'm sorry if I don't play how you want me to' before you said that's what you were doing? Just be like 'hell yeah I camped and I shot a guy in the face from 500 metres away!' or don't camp, that's all I'm saying.
 
Was playing a few matches, and in the one game it was on that Dam level. So I hop into a tank, we're defending, and I shoot at a helicopter bumbling around and manage to hit him. Not five minutes later, another heli is flying around and I manage to shoot him down as well. :D

Then was playing rush as assault and I went to revive a downed teammate. As I'm charging the defibs, an enemy pops out from behind a wall and I zap him with it. :P That was pretty funny, he probably wasn't happy.
 
So, with some PSN cash, I thought I might try BF4 because it looks really fun, despite me being a massive newbie to FPS games. I tried the beta and didn't really like it, but since people say its so much fun and a lot of my friends play it, I thought I should get it. I went on the PS Store to see if there was a discount for PS+, but I found something strange. Apparently, I'm not allowed to purchase it because I didn't pre-order it.
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I only really wanted it because the scout helicopters like the Little Bird look immensely fun to pilot. But I don't think I'll ever be able to get into FPS games because some communities aren't exactly right for new players like me. Also, I'm not good at aiming with sticks, so I want to play it on PC with a keyboard and mouse, but I will never have a computer that can meet the minimum requirements for such a graphically demanding game. Ugh.
 
Much like the AEK-971, I want to like the MTAR-21. The harsh recoil and long reload time just hurt the two weapons too much. I would rather just use the ACR if I want a high fire rate weapon.
 
Have you tried BF3 on PS3 Dan? Overall, I think 4 is worse than 3 on the PS3 at least.

Nope. Never really played FPS games over a long period. Basically, all I've ever done was play Payday The Heist demo for 10 minutes and hated it, then played the BF4 demo and thought it was weird because the controls were wonky. I only played in a private match with a friend, then went on to a server. The match ended, then when waiting for a new one to begin, my game froze and I never bothered playing again.
 
Nope. Never really played FPS games over a long period. Basically, all I've ever done was play Payday The Heist demo for 10 minutes and hated it, then played the BF4 demo and thought it was weird because the controls were wonky. I only played in a private match with a friend, then went on to a server. The match ended, then when waiting for a new one to begin, my game froze and I never bothered playing again.
There's a free to play FPS called Dust 514. You should give that a try.
 
There's a free to play FPS called Dust 514. You should give that a try.

Oops. Forgot that one. I hated it as well. I had no idea as to what the hell I was supposed to do and subsequently got really frustrated. Never downloading that mess again.
 
Oops. Forgot that one. I hated it as well. I had no idea as to what the hell I was supposed to do and subsequently got really frustrated. Never downloading that mess again.
Well then. I think you should just stay away from FPSs then.
 
Well then. I think you should just stay away from FPSs then.

Well, it flooded me with a ludicrous amount of information that I couldn't remember all at once. Then, it had a really weird way of setting up classes, so I just threw stuff together and hoped for the best because I didn't know what the hell to do.
 
Well, it flooded me with a ludicrous amount of information that I couldn't remember all at once. Then, it had a really weird way of setting up classes, so I just threw stuff together and hoped for the best because I didn't know what the hell to do.
I can't believe I'm going to say this, especially in this thread, have you tried Call of Duty? :P
 
Couple questions
#1 - I've been working with the stinger lately and it seems to do great, in one match (conquest on the map with the moving train that is flag D) I was 4 hits of 5 (since flares deployed once). However the Igla doesn't seem to do **** I was 0 for 4 (in the same round) and it starts to track but it never completes the turn and become just an RPG into the sky and nobody's flares deployed. Anybody encountered this?

#2 - same round as above I was prone close to an enemy tank and a red box appeared on screen similar to the 'out of bounds' box and it said something about 'enemy heat' and had a count down starting at 17 mins 30s.
What's that for?

#3 - my biggest frustration is when I see somebody with no triangle tag and I start shooting at them, then the blue tag finally shows up just as I've pretty much killed them and it becomes friendly fire. It's a major problem since I exclusively play hardcore and it happens an awful lot to me from both ends of the barrel where the tag doesn't show up until too late. Does anybody else have this problem?

#4 - I've received two bronze and one gold battlepacks, and I have no idea how or for what reason I got them.
 
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Couple questions
#1 - I've been working with the stinger lately and it seems to do great, in one match (conquest on the map with the moving train that is flag D) I was 4 hits of 5 (since flares deployed once). However the Igla doesn't seem to do **** I was 0 for 4 (in the same round) and it starts to track but it never completes the turn and become just an RPG into the sky and nobody's flares deployed. Anybody encountered this?

The Stinger is fire and forget. It has a lock on range of 350 meters. The IGLA has a locking range of 450 meters, but requires the user to maintain the lock until the rocket hits the intended target. The lock with the IGLA may be able to be reestablished. However, I am not sure about that, as I find a little more distance and maintaining a lock to be big downsides.

#2 - same round as above I was prone close to an enemy tank and a red box appeared on screen similar to the 'out of bounds' box and it said something about 'enemy heat' and had a count down starting at 17 mins 30s.
What's that for?

My guess is that box read 17 seconds and 30 milliseconds. If that is the case, then that was the Commander throwing up a callout that I believe is supposed to help against cruise missile deaths or warn players where there are many enemies at, but not having an UAV available.

#3 - my biggest frustration is when I see somebody with no triangle tag and I start shooting at them, then the blue tag finally shows up just as I've pretty much killed them and it becomes friendly fire. It's a major problem since I exclusively play hardcore and it happens an awful lot to me from both ends of the barrel where the tag doesn't show up until too late. Does anybody else have this problem?

I believe that is a problem that DICE is supposed to be working on fixing.

#4 - I've received two bronze and one gold battlepacks, and I have no idea how or for what reason I got them.

From levels 1-20, except at level 10 and 20, you receive a bronze battlepack every other level. From levels 21-40, except for at level 30 and 40, you receive a silver battlepack every other level. From level 41-50, you receive a gold battlepack every other level. From level 51 on, you receive a gold battlepack every level.
 
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