"Blade Runner" Oscar Pistorius shoots his girlfriend

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CNN Newsroom reports that Oscar is to be granted Bail.

Yes you can hear it live, this magistrate went on a long ridiculous rant reading case histories & taking several "detours" to come to his decision, although its not finished yet. He needs a break to lube up his tongue. :sly:
 
Yes you can hear it live, this magistrate went on a long ridiculous rant reading case histories & taking several "detours" to come to his decision, although its not finished yet. He needs a break to lube up his tongue. :sly:

:lol: My thoughts exactly! He took forever. Anyway, Oscar got bail for R1 000 000.00 (+-$110 000)

Justice was served.

The cop was taken off the case because he fired at the wheels of a taxi (hectic characters/drivers) who was a suspect in a crime & was trying to escape. He didn't realise that there were passengers in it (they're mini busses). Hence the 7 charges. It's just the legal system in progress.
 
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CNN Newsroom reports that Oscar is to be granted Bail.
What is the betting he does a runner?

To be frank, I hope for his sake that he really didn't murder Reeva - since now that he is out of police custody, I really wouldn't be surprised if he turned a gun on himself rather than face life in jail. I sincerely hope that doesn't happen, but Pistorius must be in a better position than anyone to really know what his chances of being found not guilty really are.
 
I'm pretty sure that Oscar will keep to his bail. If he does run people will assume he is guilty and it will all end up worse for him, also where the hell would he go, with prosthetic legs its not like he will blend it seamlessly everywhere.

Something interesting I found out today. There is no Jury in South Africa, it is completely down to the judge.
 
Seriously, bail? 👎 You should never be able to avoid prison just by paying money, no matter how great the sum is. A kill is always a kill*, you can't dress it up...

*=Unless the victim was more responsible for their death than the killer.
 
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Seriously, bail? 👎 You should never be able to avoid prison just by paying money, no matter how great the sum is. A kill is always a kill*, you can't dress it up...

*=Unless the victim was more responsible for their death.

He isn't avoiding prison. He is still technically innocent (until proven guilty), there is low risk of him jumping bail and/or committing other crimes so why should he have to be kept in custody until he has the trial which will decide whether he is guilty or not. If he is found to have unlawfully killed his girlfriend then I'm pretty sure he will be spending a long time behind bars anyway. If he is found innocent then did he deserve being locked up until the trial??
 
Seriously, bail? 👎 You should never be able to avoid prison just by paying money, no matter how great the sum is.
That's not what bail is.

The purpose of a bail hearing is to decide whether the accused should remain in custody or if they could reasonably be allowed to walk free in society until their trial. The bail is essentially a guarantee that if they are let go, they will appear in court for their trial; if the defendant cannot pay the money, then they are remanded in custody until the trial or until someone can pay the money for them, whichever comes first.
 
I heard that Pistorius shot his girlfriend after an argument. Apparently she bought him socks for Valentine's Day...
 
Apparently she bought him socks for Valentine's Day...
That, however, sounds like an urban legend.

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As for Oscar, atleast he's now home where he can relax and put his feet up.
 
I believe that competitors who are amputees refer to the fabric sheath they place over their prosthetics as socks. Pistorius would no doubt have state-of-the art prosthetics that he only wore for competition, and so would naturally need something to protect them when they are not in use, because they could easily get chipped or damaged, which would in turn render them useless since any damage would compromise the structure of the prosthesis, potentially causing them to break.

Call me Buzz Killington if you want, but at least I'm not the one with the tasteless sense of humour.
 
Call me Buzz Killington if you want, but at least I'm not the one with the tasteless sense of humour.

Should probably just request your username be that. Getting this serious over socks when the discussion is revolving murder is kind, well, stick-in-mud status.
 
As opposed to making tasteless and inappropriate jokes about people with physical disabilities and murder victims? Next to that, is being a buzzkill really the greater of two evils?

At this point, you're pretty much just opposing me because I'm the one posting. If I'd been the one making the jokes, your reponse would pretty much be to tell me off for being tasteless and inappropriate.
 
As opposed to making tasteless and inappropriate jokes about people with physical disabilities and murder victims? Next to that, is being a buzzkill really the greater of two evils?

At this point, you're pretty much just opposing me because I'm the one posting. If I'd been the one making the jokes, your reponse would pretty much be to tell me off for being tasteless and inappropriate.

Why is it that whenever I come into the current event forums.. You're here making a ruckus over stupid things? Just once I'd like to come here and not see people having absolutely useless arguments with you. I am honestly glad that you are not staff anymore. You were a nuisance then and you're still a nuisance now. But at least you have no power.
 
Why do you think everyone is 'just apposing you for the sake of it' ?

Seriously, grow some skin or something.

Back to the topic, the more I read and hear I believe he will be found of whatever the first charge they have below premeditation. JUST IMO, don't shoot me :(
 
Why do you think everyone is 'just apposing you for the sake of it' ?
That's the thing. I don't everyone is opposing me for the sake of it.

Back to the topic, the more I read and hear I believe he will be found of whatever the first charge they have below premeditation. JUST IMO, don't shoot me :(
That depends on how the South African legal system works. It may be that the prosecution can only charge Pistorius with premeditated murder, and cannot add a lesser-included charge as a fail-safe to try and get a conviction if they can't make the first cahrge stick.
 
At this point, you're pretty much just opposing me because I'm the one posting. If I'd been the one making the jokes, your reponse would pretty much be to tell me off for being tasteless and inappropriate.

Hardly, seeing how I'll roll with jokes about my dead parents and plenty of other offensive jokes of questionable taste. I enjoy things that are clever, regardless of taste. I do not enjoy overly serious types or those that just want bicker over trivial details,both of which you qualify for.

You could just open your eyes for a moment and realize, just maybe, that a lot of people are cross with your obnoxiously humorless and contrary attitude.
 
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That's the thing. I don't everyone is opposing me for the sake of it.

No. That's not what's happening here.

Also have you ever laughed? Do you even know what it feels like? You should try it some time.
 
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Hardly, seeing how I'll roll with jokes about my dead parents and plenty of other offensive jokes of questionable taste.
Were you laughing at jokes about the circumstances leading up to your parents' deaths just two weeks after it happened?

You could just open your eyes for a moment and realize, just maybe, that a lot of people are cross with your obnoxiously humorless and contrary attitude.
You ignore criticisms of yourself, and yet you expect me to heed your criticisms of me. And when I don't, you think I have an attitude problem. You demand that I acknowledge that my posting style is flawed and actively work towards changing it, providing vague references "a lot of people" to support your statement, and yet almost every single criticism you level at me could reasonably be directed back at you. I don't see you actively trying to address this in how you present yourself, so why do you think it is your place to demand that I do it?

Please, Azuremen. Teach me how to be more like you. I crave your approval more than anything else in this world. I am nothing without it, so please, teach me how to think like you, how to walk like you, talk like you and act like you. And teach me how to do my part to get other people to think like you so that I can help in turning GTP into an utterly joyless place, where the only thoughts that are allowed to be expressed are the ones that you approved in advance. After all, haven't you heard the saying that the world would be a pretty boring place if we all thought the same way?

While we're on the subject of people opening their eyes, perhaps you should open yours and realise that people don't always agree with you, and that it's okay if they don't. You may have appreciated akmuq's joke, but I did not. I found it to be in poor taste, completely insensitive, and lacking humour even if I understood how and why it was meant to be funny. However, not finding it funny when you do does not turn me into some scourge of the forums, and nor does it give you the right to demand that I take a step back, critically assess my approach to the forums and fundamentally alter my beliefs for your sake.

If there is some critical issue with my posting that warrants a course of action, you can rest assured that it will be addressed by the moderators, and that it will stay between myself and the moderators; you have no further need to you of any discussions we have outside the public space of the forums, just as I have no need to know of any discussions between you and the moderators. You can rest assured of this because it is the same basic courtesy that I extended to you - and to everyone else - when I was a moderator. Until such time as you become a moderator, it is neither your place nor your responsibility to police the forums in a manner you see fit. In the meantime, I suggest you learn to accept that not everyone thinks like you, and that if they don't think like you, then it doesn't automatically make them bad people. So stop trying to bully people into changing what and how they think so that you are more comfortable having a discussion with them.
 
Take it to PM you lot, we a have a murder to investigate here. :sly:

Things aren’t that bad for Oscar Pistorius, he does have the court’s best car parking space.
 
I'm pretty sure that Oscar will keep to his bail. If he does run people will assume he is guilty and it will all end up worse for him, also where the hell would he go, with prosthetic legs its not like he will blend it seamlessly everywhere.

Something interesting I found out today. There is no Jury in South Africa, it is completely down to the judge.

Oscars bail hearing was heard by a chief magistrate. His trial will heard by a judge & 2 assessors.
 
You demand that I acknowledge that my posting style is flawed and actively work towards changing it, providing vague references "a lot of people" to support your statement, and yet almost every single criticism you level at me could reasonably be directed back at you. I don't see you actively trying to address this in how you present yourself, so why do you think it is your place to demand that I do it?

Care to point to where he made any such demand?

As usual, when having a disagreement with people, you resort to making things up.

nor does it give you the right to demand that I take a step back, critically assess my approach to the forums and fundamentally alter my beliefs for your sake.

If he didn't have the right then it's a good thing he made no such demand then, huh?
 
Were you laughing at jokes about the circumstances leading up to your parents' deaths just two weeks after it happened?

I took them in stride and certainly didn't bother to lecture strangers on the matter, or even make mention they were dead. I'd bite my tongue, hard as that seems to imagine, and there is certainly no need for you to play morality police on the forum, especially seeing how you are no longer a moderator.

Not to mention one of the Admin's has made an even more "tasteless" joke elsewhere that is quite hilarious.

tl;dr - hypocrisy and ignorance

If you care to only berate me, when 5 (edit, 6) different members just noted your lack of humor and tendency to sidetrack threads over trivial details, you're blind. Or petty. Or delusional. I don't really care at this point because, honestly, its tiresome trying to make you aware that you are not particularly liked by many active members because you basically show up in threads to argue petty details in an astoundingly condescending tone. The attitude reminds me greatly of the classic "nerd" pushing his glasses up his nose while saying "well, actually" to correct someone on a minor and trivial detail that doesn't have much bearing on the real topic.

You're missing the forest for a tree.

EDIT: Did not see your post Sphinx before I posted this up. Not sure how a PM would help as he continually manages to overlook the many members that take issue with his posting habits and instead only seems to focus on me, as if I stand alone. I'm also apparently no longer on his ignore list. :rolleyes:

I've been following the thread in general because I was curious about the development of the case, especially after the initial bit came to light on him shooting with target confirmation. Was also waiting for it to degenerate into a gun control conversation, which its steered clear of for the most part.
 
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