BMW M4 Coupe Super Lap

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deal all, my first post here, im a 5 month-old noob, started playing gt5 back in august this year but im a studious novice - after about 20 laps im on early 2:10 - not bad for an old man:)

gt6 seems wanting to start out easy for first timers so golding the event is very achievable. not boasting anything here but first warm up lap often good enough to get gold. if you competed hard in gt5 tt to get in top 500th you will be like that. after golded, watched top players' replays to study the lap before id waste my precious energy to improve my time:P studied the braking points and how much a corner you are allowed to cut.

corner 1. nearly at the end of straight, pavement colour changes and when you pass that line you start braking hard. what i cant understand is when Amo braked his tail slid nicely for the corner, without any steering input (from what i saw from cockpit view) as if rear slid by itself. i tried setting the brake bias 8/10 but as soon as you enter the event it defaults back to 5/5. hmmm...

corner 4. you can cut quite a bit, but cant go out too wide on exit, no more than a car width.

corner 6. before the corner there are 3 cones on your right, when youre about along side of middle one start braking. downshift slightly earlier than braking seems to bring the tail around nicely. also noticed he didnt braked fully - partially, for both corner 6 & 7.

corner 8. there is a concrete patch on your left comes up before the corner, start braking right on end edge or slightly after.

Schumaker S. beyond me. use all the curves - entry, apex and exit - on 3rd gear hitting rev limiter, ideally. i never managed to pull it off.

corner 11. i usually start braking when i go under the bridge there is a shadow on the road, after about half a sec i crossed over that shadow i start braking.

corner 14. from a distance you can see rubber on the road where it starts to get darker, when i just started to enter that zone i apply brakes. there is actually a horizontal line or some sort right on braking point so when i see it and if i hadnt applied brakes yet then im braking too late.

corner 15 S's. ride over curves little bit, otherwise you'll red lap it. when riding over them the car gets airborne and when it is ease off throttle to avoid wheelspins when tyres land on pavement.

apart from available intake and exhaust upgrades, back ballast weight seems the only option to improve your handling balance to improve your time. i did 60kg at the very back (50/50) to improve by 2 secs. 80kg (49/51) seems to be too much my lap time deteriorated.

lastly, thanks to all you experts for your valuable information otherwise i wouldnt have had improved as much. i wish i knew this site much earlier.

now, i was always, consistenly, without-fail 4 secs slower than the leader on GT5 TT events so by looking at my gap from the leader, i know i wont improve my time any further on this. if i was 20 years younger im pretty sure id be running for your money:)
 
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ironman44321
I could see using it if you are having trouble and need it to get gold, but other than that I don't know why people are using just to get better lap times. I've even seen some of the really fast times are being done with TCS on 1. Lame.

Stock on DFGT
No asm
No tcs
Abs 1
Srf off

using DFGT and paddles
2:15.049
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Which "paddles" do you use ? I know of 2 types - one is cheap (£15-20) and one around £50.
 
Was feeling happy with my performance in GT6 up 'til I tried this Event earlier. Turned of everything as normal and managed silver. But had to put TC back on to 5 to get the gold. First time doing that in GT6. Dissapointed with myself, although I do hate this track so that I was unfamiliar with it.
I can openly admit how rubbish I am.
 
Dalone
Don't be so bloody sanctimonious Cargo, if you're not prepared to use what is available to get your best time so be it. Who gives a rats.

I note however that Doodles and The Bandit are availing themselves, using the legal means offered, to get their best times. Like I expect the vast majority of players will be.

No one complains when SRF is turned off in TT's etc, we just get on with what is available.
If you don't want to use all the legal means available to you here, go for it, we'll all think you are a champion for denying yourself.
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i understand his point though, they really just need separate leader boards for those using aids and those that dont. i found it easy to gold this even without SRF, but needed to turn it on to be able to try and reach the times the guys in the top 100 are getting... so if there was a separate leaderboard i'd be close to the top with my lap without aids... lol.

im of the opinion that if you can you should always turn everything OFF. but thats just me, and since there arn't seperate leaderboards of course people are going to use whatever is available to get the FASTEST time.

it is funny though everyone whinges about them forcing SRF to ON for most of these events, but then in this event where it isn't forced on us the top guys are putting it ON anyway lol.
 
The Watcher
Hi

can anyone confirm that upgrades are available for the event and if so, how do you apply these upgrades.

Sittiing inside the top 100 so far
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no you cannot use the upgrades, i tried, they stick you in with the car they provide not the one you buy. you can change brake bias via the dial in game if that still exists (some wheels had this tuning option while driving in GT5)

if you want to break top 100 turn SRF on... lol
 
Efro
The best I could do after about 30 laps is an 2:14:008. No aids other than abs 1.
I'm looking for friends that don't use srf. add me on psn: Efro_88
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Impressive. Played for about an hour, now at 2:15.2xx I think thirteen flat is obtainable based on a friends ghost, but not for me. No srf, abs 1, using clutch + h pattern

Which turns are you using second gear?
 
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Dalone
Don't be so bloody sanctimonious Cargo, if you're not prepared to use what is available to get your best time so be it. Who gives a rats.

I note however that Doodles and The Bandit are availing themselves, using the legal means offered, to get their best times. Like I expect the vast majority of players will be.

No one complains when SRF is turned off in TT's etc, we just get on with what is available.
If you don't want to use all the legal means available to you here, go for it, we'll all think you are a champion for denying yourself.
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Wow dude, really don't think all that was necessary when all I was doing was just giving my opinion. Once again, chill out and hop off my ass. Since you insist that I use whatever means is available, I think you better go check your friends list leaderboard. :sly: Time for you to stop bragging about being ahead of me there old boy. See what happens when you poke sticks at snakes. :sly:
 
GTP_CargoRatt
Just took it for a spin and got Bronze. Great car, very happy with it. Will have to give this a proper go once I fix my sticky brake pedal. :grumpy: Its sticking just enough to slow me down. It only happens after I apply the brakes, showing about 1/4 brake pressure on the HUD display. If I tap the brakes, it releases the rest of the way. I think I may need to clean them inside or blow them out. Any suggestions on this. Thanks.
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If what worked in GT5, works in GT6 also, you just have to push the brake and gas pedal full when the wheel is auto calibrated.
 
Gabe Logan
No don't blame your hardware.... I had this issue with a S2000 for a while. It started after I started switching between ABS = 0 and ABS - 1.

It went away as quickly as it arrived.

Slightest touch on brake on pedal went straight to 50%.

Yet another bug - like the engine sounds disappearing when the the overly-done tyre screeching kicks in.
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It was a hardware issue. My pot was dirty on my brake pedal as I tested it on GT5 and my brake pedal was still spiking. I cleaned the pot and all is well now.
 
GTP_CargoRatt
It was a hardware issue. My pot was dirty on my brake pedal as I tested it on GT5 and my brake pedal was still spiking. I cleaned the pot and all is well now.
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You have the DFGT? I ended up having to modify the internals and shave a bit of plastic off to get the thing to work properly. The electronics were fine but the potentiometer could no longer physically move to a "zero" point.

I was with you on the SRF. :cheers: I know you have to use it to get a top time but I only compete with myself really and just can't bring myself to use it so I left it off.
 
ragnar666
i understand his point though, they really just need separate leader boards for those using aids and those that dont. i found it easy to gold this even without SRF, but needed to turn it on to be able to try and reach the times the guys in the top 100 are getting... so if there was a separate leaderboard i'd be close to the top with my lap without aids... lol.

im of the opinion that if you can you should always turn everything OFF. but thats just me, and since there arn't seperate leaderboards of course people are going to use whatever is available to get the FASTEST time.

it is funny though everyone whinges about them forcing SRF to ON for most of these events, but then in this event where it isn't forced on us the top guys are putting it ON anyway lol.
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I did a gold time first with every aid turned off, including ABS. Then I realised it was being used by the top times, so obviously I turned it on, any racer will use any advantage they can get to be the best, and you certainly don't want to be at a disadvantage. That's like trying to win a war using swords against people with guns. You can put up a fight but you're not going to win and it's just stupid to even attempt. Obviously I would prefer if SRF was forced off for TTs and I don't even see why it's in the game as it's not really necessary even for novices. A few days ago a gave a few of my friends a go on GT6 on my wheel, and they where soon starting to get the hang of it using exactly the same aids as I do, all off apart from ABS 1. So I don't know why they include it in the game, but it is what it is, and there's no reason to be ashamed of using it here :)
 
GTP_CargoRatt
On the contrary, I thought it was pretty good. A little tail happy, but otherwise a great car. Interested to know why you think its so bad.
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Ditto, the brakes seemed to me that could be better, but if you are not heavy on the foot it actually handles pretty nice. However, it is easy to get tail happy if you're not careful with the throttle.
 
Wolfsatz
Ditto, the brakes seemed to me that could be better, but if you are not heavy on the foot it actually handles pretty nice. However, it is easy to get tail happy if you're not careful with the throttle.
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The problem with it is that once you get a little bit of oversteer, it's impossible to correct without losing lots of time, it's just hard to find the limit of the rear end because it's so snappy.
 
BanditKarter22
I did a gold time first with every aid turned off, including ABS. Then I realised it was being used by the top times, so obviously I turned it on, any racer will use any advantage they can get to be the best, and you certainly don't want to be at a disadvantage. That's like trying to win a war using swords against people with guns. You can put up a fight but you're not going to win and it's just stupid to even attempt. Obviously I would prefer if SRF was forced off for TTs and I don't even see why it's in the game as it's not really necessary even for novices. A few days ago a gave a few of my friends a go on GT6 on my wheel, and they where soon starting to get the hang of it using exactly the same aids as I do, all off apart from ABS 1. So I don't know why they include it in the game, but it is what it is, and there's no reason to be ashamed of using it here :)
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yeah i know and this is what i did also. just saying it would be better to have seperate leaderboards.
 
JujiroMatsuda
View attachment 88550 deal all, my first post here, im a 5 month-old noob, started playing gt5 back in august this year but im a studious novice - after about 20 laps im on early 2:10 - not bad for an old man:)

gt6 seems wanting to start out easy for first timers so golding the event is very achievable. not boasting anything here but first warm up lap often good enough to get gold. if you competed hard in gt5 tt to get in top 500th you will be like that. after golded, watched top players' replays to study the lap before id waste my precious energy to improve my time:P studied the braking points and how much a corner you are allowed to cut.

corner 1. nearly at the end of straight, pavement colour changes and when you pass that line you start braking hard. what i cant understand is when Amo braked his tail slid nicely for the corner, without any steering input (from what i saw from cockpit view) as if rear slid by itself. i tried setting the brake bias 8/10 but as soon as you enter the event it defaults back to 5/5. hmmm...

corner 4. you can cut quite a bit, but cant go out too wide on exit, no more than a car width.

corner 6. before the corner there are 3 cones on your right, when youre about along side of middle one start braking. downshift slightly earlier than braking seems to bring the tail around nicely. also noticed he didnt braked fully - partially, for both corner 6 & 7.

corner 8. there is a concrete patch on your left comes up before the corner, start braking right on end edge or slightly after.

Schumaker S. beyond me. use all the curves - entry, apex and exit - on 3rd gear hitting rev limiter, ideally. i never managed to pull it off.

corner 11. i usually start braking when i go under the bridge there is a shadow on the road, after about half a sec i crossed over that shadow i start braking.

corner 14. from a distance you can see rubber on the road where it starts to get darker, when i just started to enter that zone i apply brakes. there is actually a horizontal line or some sort right on braking point so when i see it and if i hadnt applied brakes yet then im braking too late.

corner 15 S's. ride over curves little bit, otherwise you'll red lap it. when riding over them the car gets airborne and when it is ease off throttle to avoid wheelspins when tyres land on pavement.

apart from available intake and exhaust upgrades, back ballast weight seems the only option to improve your handling balance to improve your time. i did 60kg at the very back (50/50) to improve by 2 secs. 80kg (49/51) seems to be too much my lap time deteriorated.

lastly, thanks to all you experts for your valuable information otherwise i wouldnt have had improved as much. i wish i knew this site much earlier.

now, i was always, consistenly, without-fail 4 secs slower than the leader on GT5 TT events so by looking at my gap from the leader, i know i wont improve my time any further on this. if i was 20 years younger im pretty sure id be running for your money:)
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Ok that was just greatest first post what I'v seen 👍
 
BanditKarter22
I did a gold time first with every aid turned off, including ABS. Then I realised it was being used by the top times, so obviously I turned it on, any racer will use any advantage they can get to be the best, and you certainly don't want to be at a disadvantage. That's like trying to win a war using swords against people with guns. You can put up a fight but you're not going to win and it's just stupid to even attempt. Obviously I would prefer if SRF was forced off for TTs and I don't even see why it's in the game as it's not really necessary even for novices. A few days ago a gave a few of my friends a go on GT6 on my wheel, and they where soon starting to get the hang of it using exactly the same aids as I do, all off apart from ABS 1. So I don't know why they include it in the game, but it is what it is, and there's no reason to be ashamed of using it here :)
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agree 100%!!! In here you have some rules, in reality other rules, a game is a game and reality is reality, so whatever is allowed is ok (cheaters are not ok, not aids using racers). Now please accept my friend request BanditKarter and doodlemonoply, it helps a lot with my motivation when I have such fast racers in my list. Thank you very much!
 
On the SRF thing : do I like it? No, not one bit. I won't use it, out of principle.
The thing is however, as others have said : it's a legitimate aid, they are playing by the rules.
Hell, the frontrunners would still hand me my ass on a silver platter without using SRF.
 
Wow I really struggled , took at least ten laps to shave off the 0.00.019 I was from gold .
Didn't think about moding or weight ballast tho.
Found the car horrid under steer off throttle and terrible overseer on boost . Using dule shock tho , hard been on gas and not to much to spool the turbo wild .
Happy with matt red n chrome tho yippe
 
Yeah, I'm a bit bummed about the SRF thing. I managed to drop from the 2.17 range to the 2.14 range in one lap just by turning it on. Does anyone know how it works? Is it like an electronic stability control, or does it change the physics of the game? I'm somewhat ok with using an AID if it has a real life equivalent, although I would rather them not be allowed in the TT's.
 
Happy to gold this with SRF off. I know my limits and they are way below Bandit and Doodle so was content driving the way I wanted to for gold in something around 2:15 after a couple of laps, if memory serves...

Will have a look tonight to see how far I've slipped down the list!
 
I found this car hard to get used to. I started with my normal set-up - no assists and ABS and Traction control set on 1. No luck. I turned on more assists than I have ever used to tame this Bimmer.

Ultimate Driving Machine?! My A$$!

They leave a E30 M3 out of the game and put this new one in. Is the hyped up inclusion in a premiere video game supposed to actually help SELL these cars?
 
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Vivi22
I didn't realize we could watch leaderboard replays before. Took a look at the in first and knocked a full second off my previous best after a few tries.
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What helped me the most was turning on the ghost while driving,for some reason having other people in front of me made me shave 3+ seconds off my time plus put me in second among my friends and their ALL using wheels :P
 

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