Boston Bombing, Boston Marathon April 15th

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So why is it that we're supposed to care so much more than when this happens in Baghdad, Kabul, Jalalabad everyday?
 
“It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data.”

[Update, 8:36 p.m.] Investigators have warned law enforcement officers to be on the lookout for a "darker-skinned or black male" with a possible foreign accent in connection with Monday's bombings at the Boston Marathon, according to a law enforcement advisory obtained by CNN.

The man was seen with a black backpack and sweatshirt and was trying to get into a restricted area about five minutes before the first explosion, the lookout notice states.

[Update, 8:35 p.m.] Hospital workers have treated 141 people after the Boston Marathon bombings, officials at those facilities said Monday night.


My updates are from CNN.
 
So why is it that we're supposed to care so much more than when this happens in Baghdad, Kabul, Jalalabad everyday?


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You are surprised that first world countries care about the news from other first world countries more than the news from third world countries? Shocker.

It's awful, I agree, but the closer the situation is to our situation, the more it impacts us.

This.

Rare occurrence vs Almost daily occurrence.

That is why.
 
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Sure dummy, I can read. You say something stupid and then take it back in the next paragraph. What the frack good is a warning if the sender remains anonymous and unknown?? Didnt that dawn on you? So why post such nonsense? Are the YouTube comments sections too busy right now?

We could all probably afford to calm down a little, but you especially.

He's not claiming anything, just speculating, which is natural when we have no information.

I don't think NK is involved either but it is possible. They could come out later claiming they were responsible (though that could be a lie anyway).

Calling people stupid is not helping anything and is really not appropriate for this discussion.
 
I'm just theorizing. I don't believe they had anything to do with it personally. I'm just throwing that out there.
Why would you even theorize it in the first place?

If the North wanted to attack us, they would have done it in far greater fashion & carried the full weight of it. The North doesn't like us enough to give a "warning" attack & even attempting so would have result in the US on their doorstep before they could carry out the "actual" attack.

Simply put, if this was the North's doing & the US found out, the North would be gone by next month b/c the US would consider this an engagement of war.
 
This may have been mentioned before, but police found and detonated (In a controlled manner) a forth (Or maybe third) bomb they found at the library over a mile away. If true, this more than likely means this bombing was carried out by more than one individual.

EDIT: Tree'd I think actually.
 
So why is it that we're supposed to care so much more than when this happens in Baghdad, Kabul, Jalalabad everyday?

We live in a free society, which means we have the burden of listening to others say and believe things we have spent a lifetime not-believing. We have embraced the rule of law, too. We have to be open minded. A democracy is advanced citizenship. These other places you listed??

For example in some nation recently, 5 aid workers were murdered for trying to immunize the local children against disease ..the local mullah claimed it was all about making the kids sterile- a godless western tactic.
So you see? The potential value of a given life is not different. The ideal is we are all the same. At the level of beliefs, though, the level of closed mindedness in the developing world is staggering.

Thats not a complete answer at all, I agree, but we DO live by high standards of tolerance compared to a lot of places, and that counts for some of the value we place on ourselves -vs- strangers.

Plus: the number of people who die of povery averages 1000 an hour. 24/7.
They are us as well. But no shocking bomb blast kills them. Just absolutely anonymous misery and death.
 
Why would you even theorize it in the first place?

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If the North wanted to attack us, they would have done it in far greater fashion & carried the full weight of it. The North doesn't like us enough to give a "warning" attack & even attempting so would have result in the US on their doorstep before they could carry out the "actual" attack.

Because North Korea has such great weapons. Their ICBMs, their nukes, their........wait. Were talking about North Korea, right. All their threats, at this point, are nothing more than poking the world with sticks. Maybe, just maybe, they started throwing small stones. Yes, it is highly improbable, but not outside the realm of possible. Therefore, it does simply pass through some people's mind. After all, they promised to nuke Colorado Springs, Texas after all.

Simply put, if this was the North's doing & the US found out, the North would be gone by next month b/c the US would consider this an engagement of war.

Now we agree on something.
 
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Why would you even theorize it in the first place?

If the North wanted to attack us, they would have done it in far greater fashion & carried the full weight of it. The North doesn't like us enough to give a "warning" attack & even attempting so would have result in the US on their doorstep before they could carry out the "actual" attack.

Simply put, if this was the North's doing & the US found out, the North would be gone by next month b/c the US would consider this an engagement of war.
^This, why even BRING UP North Korea in this thread? That is such an ignorant assumption. They have no reason to bomb a marathon that gets held every year that has no major political ties to anything whatsoever.
This may have been mentioned before, but police found and detonated (In a controlled manner) a forth (Or maybe third) bomb they found at the library over a mile away. If true, this more than likely means this bombing was carried out by more than one individual.
The one in the library was actually detonated in a non-controlled manner. The last I saw(this was around 2PM PST) there were 4 explosive devices in total. 3 detonated(1 at the finish line, 1 further away[read: within line of sight of the first], 1 at JFK library and 1 some where in a trash can possibly).

My personal thoughts on the matter are that someone, or some sort of group had a message that they wanted to get out and chose this venue as their means of doing so. I don't believe it had anything to do with North Korea because they would not even bother with something as small scale and useless as this. If they wanted to send a message, they'd send a warhead. Not pipebombs.
 
[Update, 8:55 p.m. ET] A Saudi national with a leg wound was under guard at a Boston hospital in connection with the bombings at the Boston Marathon, but investigators cannot say he is involved at this time and he is not in custody, a law enforcement official said Monday evening.

[Update, 8:54 p.m. ET] Three people were killed in the bombings, Boston Police Commissioner Ed Davis told reporters Monday night.
 
CNN are now interviewing the old man in orange that was knocked from his feet by the blast.

78 Year old Bill Iffrig.
 
[Update, 8:55 p.m. ET] A Saudi national with a leg wound was under guard at a Boston hospital in connection with the bombings at the Boston Marathon, but investigators cannot say he is involved at this time and he is not in custody, a law enforcement official said Monday evening.

[Update, 8:54 p.m. ET] Three people were killed in the bombings, Boston Police Commissioner Ed Davis told reporters Monday night.

Source?
 
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Because North Korea has such great weapons. Their ICBMs, their nukes, their........wait. Were talking about North Korea, right. All their threats, at this point, are nothing more than poking the world with sticks. Maybe, just maybe, they started throwing small stones. Yes, it is highly improbable, but not outside the realm of possible. Therefore, it does simply pass through some people's mind. *Probably* Nothing more.
To carry out what I described, they would need the weapons you just mentioned. But, they don't, so they won't, thus all you've done is re-enforce my point.

I don't know why some people on this forum give off the notion that Un is some military retard & will just attack in any fashion without a second thought. :rolleyes:

The North had zero to do with this, I'll guarantee that as a fact. The North's idea of striking the US would result in mass casualties, not a few hundred injured civilians. There is zero reason to assume at all they had any sort of hand in this; it would be suicide.
 
To carry out what I described, they would need the weapons you just mentioned. But, they don't, so they won't, thus all you've done is re-enforce my point.

Too bad you missed my point. Plus you never really described anything. Unless I read this wrong.

If the North wanted to attack us, they would have done it in far greater fashion & carried the full weight of it. The North doesn't like us enough to give a "warning" attack & even attempting so would have result in the US on their doorstep before they could carry out the "actual" attack.

If the North wanted to attack us, they would have done it in far greater fashion with their cowardly, underhanded, and horribly armed way.


EDIT: damn me and my double posting. Bad Ken, bad.
 
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Too bad you missed my point.
I missed nothing. All I saw was someone taking my post as if I actually thought the North had the capability to attack us on a grand scale by saying, "LOL, but they don't have those weapons to do so" & then re-iterate that it's possible in the smallest of chances the North could have attacked us by way of "throwing small stones".


Let's just end this way. If you think the North had any sort of hand in this, in even the tiniest possibility, you might as well just keep that thought to yourself. :dunce:
 
What a tragedy today. I just got home to watch the footage. My thoughts and prayers to the families. I hope justice is brought upon whomever committed this act of terrorism.
 
The first thing I thought of when I saw this on the news was that, it's Tax Day and this is a result of some whack-job who's pissed at the government so they decide to injure innocent people to make some statement. To me that seems far more logical than the North Koreans using terror attacks against the US. I mean sure, you could always go to the media standby of a Middle Eastern group did it, but it doesn't really seem to fit the motive for many of those groups.

This reminds me of Eric Rudolph's Centennial Olympic Park bombing in 1996, a large, multi-national event with a large group of people in a public place. It's just the Boston bombings have been more deadly unfortunately.

I'm sure we will find out more details in the coming days.

And seeing the non-media public pictures are pretty shocking. I think the Internet has pretty much desensitized me to any form of gore, but these are all pretty gruesome. Although in any tragedy that happens, it always amazes me the stories and picture you see and hear about how average people went above and beyond to help out. I've been hearing bits and pieces about Carlos Arredondo, who seems to have been dubbed the Boston Cowboy.
 
One of the guys who helped tend to the victim who's legs were blown off was interviews afterwards. He's visibly shook up, but I commend him greatly for helping even a single person in these circumstances. Link
 
(edit: deleted my 1st paragraph out of respect for what has happened today)

NK/Boston conspiracy buffs:
Theres a non-zero possibility that you can walk outside your house by moving through the wall and not using the door. If you tried once every 5 seconds, it might take several billion years to actually DO it, but the chance that you CAN do it is non-zero.

p.s. i might need Famines help with these numbers :)
 
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I tend to think it's a terrorist group because of all the cameras present. The middle eastern terrorist groups like to "claim" things like bombings for whatever reason. The cameras are a means of proving what that group did. Just my opinion. I am not completely sold on that though. It could be anyone really.
 
This is horrible and I hope the person responsible gets caught. My thoughts and prayers go out to the victims and families of those victims.
 
I tend to think it's a terrorist group because of all the cameras present. The middle eastern terrorist groups like to "claim" things like bombings for whatever reason. The cameras are a means of proving what that group did. Just my opinion. I am not completely sold on that though. It could be anyone really.

You mean to say some of the camera views we got were set up by terrorists? :confused:

Wasn't the last mile dedicated to the Sandy Hook shootings? Pro-NRA terrorists?

I hope that was sarcasm.
 
Wasn't the last mile dedicated to the Sandy Hook shootings? Pro-NRA terrorists?

No! Stop with the unfounded bullcrap speculation! You look and sound like a total imbecile along with everyone else making these kinds of speculations. Read and think before you post during a sensitive time like this. Otherwise it's like throwing a diarrhea-poop into a headwind.
 
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