Bugatti thread.

[Jay]

Let's just restate his post, just in case you can't see the flamebait

So he speaks bad about GT, you can disagree all you like, maybe you just shouldn't take the bait. Like if a fish knew that wiggly thing was bait and not food I am sure he wouldn't take it either.


Anyway It was just a suggestion so you and Terronium-12 don't get an infraction from it, we should be discussing Bugatti.

 

[Terronium-12]

Doesn't need to be a swear word



I am quite sure calling someone a tosser for posting his ignorance breaks this rule.

There, I fixed that for you - now let's get back on topic. 👍

EDIT: I appreciate the regard, by the way.

 

[dancardesigner]

There you go

 

[Jay]

If you just removed or edited the "abuse" I would removed that part from my post, my post was about the the Cadillac Sixteen concept and nothing would be highlighted and all would be well. I could have just reported it if I wanted to get you in trouble (I didn't report it).


Anyway, Frankly the EB110 is what I am looking for the most out of Bugatti

 

[dancardesigner]

Anyway back on topic, what do you guys reckon to this?

 

[Terronium-12]

VW/Bugatti were really serious about the Veyron being the be all, end all solution weren't they?

 

[dancardesigner]

VW/Bugatti were really serious about the Veyron being the be all, end all solution weren't they?

Yeah, this article i quite old though, i still hope they go ahead with the plans, the amount of investment they put into that thing. I think they need to regain the crown.

Edit: This is interesting all be it quite old news.

Bugatti has announced that the Veyron production will end in 2012 and its replacement will be another ultra expensive model. This contradicts the recent rumors that the French company is working on a smaller, cheaper car. “We will be staying on top of everybody else and we will not be producing a smaller, or cheaper car and we will not be moving volumes up. Bugatti customers are very extreme people,” Bugatti boss Dr Franz-Josef Paefgen told AutoCar. Though nothing is certain for the moment, it seems that the new car will be a luxury rival to the Rolls Royce Phantom, that could also benefit from advanced biofuel or diesel technology.

After the Grand Sport recently debuted, rumors are also going around about Bugatti ending the Veyron production with a more powerful ‘GT’ version. Thought Bugatti denies so far, these rumors are supported by the fact that Bugatti engineering boss, Dr. Wolfgang Schreiber recently said that the quad-turbocharged 16 cylinder engine from the Bugatti could generate even more power and torque. Also, it seems that there are a few customers that already put down deposits for the ‘GT’ version, that could develop 1200 hp and reach a top speed of 270 mph (434 km/h).

 

[Peter]

That's fast. Very fast.

 

[Dave A]

Anyway back on topic, what do you guys reckon to this?

I'm not sure about the legitimacey of that storey. I know it was published in a magazine and not just one but nothing has happened since and it just doesn't make much sense to me.

The idea for the Veyron was to be super fast, very reliable, very comfortable and very usable including having tyre's that would work in the dry and wet and not just on smooth surfaces.

The Veyron can already go faster than 252mph, that's just where it's electronic limiter cuts in. They limited it there because the tyre's could become highly unstable at higher speeds. To make the car go quicker you would need to take away something the Veyron has, and that is everyday usability, because you would need to give it tyre's that are designed more to handle the extra speed than to cope with differing weather and road conditions and that could mean "I can't drive my Veyron today, it's mildly moist". So yeah, the Veyron would keep it's fastest car tag, but it would lose something in exchange and I don't think VAG would be happy with that somehow.

 

[dancardesigner]

I'm not sure about the legitimacey of that storey. I know it was published in a magazine and not just one but nothing has happened since and it just doesn't make much sense to me.

The idea for the Veyron was to be super fast, very reliable, very comfortable and very usable including having tyre's that would work in the dry and wet and not just on smooth surfaces.

The Veyron can already go faster than 252mph, that's just where it's electronic limiter cuts in. They limited it there because the tyre's could become highly unstable at higher speeds. To make the car go quicker you would need to take away something the Veyron has, and that is everyday usability, because you would need to give it tyre's that are designed more to handle the extra speed than to cope with differing weather and road conditions and that could mean "I can't drive my Veyron today, it's mildly moist". So yeah, the Veyron would keep it's fastest car tag, but it would lose something in exchange and I don't think VAG would be happy with that somehow.

The Veyron is a bit of a funny cookie in my book, it's trying to be the fastest car in the world, yet be comfortable and fit all those other requirements you mentioned. You would think something aiming for such an ambitious title would be more focussed. I can only wonder what could have been achieved if the car was built solely for the purpose of taking the crown, im sure we could be biting at the heals of 300mph by now (I awaits to see what the landshark can do)Im sure some car will come soon and obliterate the Veyrons record with a quarter of the complexity.

 

[jacksmith]

What a 🤬

Uhm. Were you born yesterday or something? The Cien has a V12, a 7.5L Northstar, to be exact.

As someone pointed out above me (a wise one indeed). Tosser.

He is getting confused with the Cadillac Sixteen concept.

I would drop the name calling too if you don't want a slap on the wrist.

Didn't think it was a swear word.

Anyway this guy has started 10 threads, yet only made 29 posts, that doesn't really work, if you ask me he's a troll

Doesn't need to be a swear word



I am quite sure calling someone a tosser for posting his thoughts breaks this rule.

Let's just restate his post, just in case you can't see the flamebait

Or this:

Thanks all for the kind words,I wasn't born yesterday and go and take a look on the time trials online,I am pretty sure you are not even in the first 500.

I mixed up the cien with the cadillac sixteen but still GT is as fake as a hooker's smile,all the big promises and no show,keep making the cars look real and what about the other stuff.I did GT4 98% and there was no backfire although I don't need glasses because my vision is 100%.

 

[dancardesigner]

Thanks all for the kind words,I wasn't born yesterday and go and take a look on the time trials online,I am pretty sure you are not even in the first 500.

I mixed up the cien with the cadillac sixteen but still GT is as fake as a hooker's smile,all the big promises and no show,keep making the cars look real and what about the other stuff.I did GT4 98% and there was no backfire although I don't need glasses because my vision is 100%.

What a thread jacker, stop cussing GT and leave us alone.

 

[TofuStoreDrift]

I'd say that the Ulimate Aero car, with some twiks, would be up to the challenge, but you would have to be mental to go that fast. Ofcourse Capt. Slow could drive it.

 

[jacksmith]

What a 🤬

Uhm. Were you born yesterday or something? The Cien has a V12, a 7.5L Northstar, to be exact.

As someone pointed out above me (a wise one indeed). Tosser.

Didn't think it was a swear word.

Anyway this guy has started 10 threads, yet only made 29 posts, that doesn't really work, if you ask me he's a troll

What a thread jacker, stop cussing GT and leave us alone.

I am allowed to express my thoughts,I didn't attack anybody personally.I have plenty of words to throw around which are not part of civilized culture.If I have few problems with GT why does it bother you and just because you can not come up with any ideas to discuss please don't comment on me,thankyou.

 

[dancardesigner]

OMG someone call the mods, im sick of this guy. If you have an issue PM me or whoever, stop ruining and interupting threads with you petty complaints. What is done, is done, let it be.

 

[Jay]

I did GT4 98% and there was no backfire although I don't need glasses because my vision is 100%.

Then you must have some different version or something because plenty car cars backfired, regularly.

 

[dancardesigner]

Then you must have some different version or something because plenty car cars backfired, regularly.

Ignore him, he will only take the thread off course like he already has. Let him believe what he wants, why should we care.

 

[jacksmith]

Then you must have some different version or something because plenty car cars backfired, regularly.

Ignore him, he will only take the thread off course like he already has. Let him believe what he wants, why should we care.

In the end I am one of the fastest,I was in the top ten in online,would like to know your rankings.

 

[daan]

In the end I am one of the fastest,I was in the top ten in online,would like to know your rankings.

It doesn't matter who is fast or slow. This has nothing to do with the thread. 💡

Now, back to Bugatti.

 

[dancardesigner]

Wow the EB110 was quite a bargain back then

 

[McLaren]

The Veyron is a bit of a funny cookie in my book, it's trying to be the fastest car in the world, yet be comfortable and fit all those other requirements you mentioned. You would think something aiming for such an ambitious title would be more focussed. I can only wonder what could have been achieved if the car was built solely for the purpose of taking the crown, im sure we could be biting at the heals of 300mph by now (I awaits to see what the landshark can do)Im sure some car will come soon and obliterate the Veyrons record with a quarter of the complexity.

Anything can take the crown of speed these days. You'll see many cars do so as time goes on & technology advances. Hell, you might even see Bugatti change with it.


But the Veyron will always have something it started, something that places it next to McLaren. The F1 & Veyron were never intended to be just fast cars like the SSC & the Vector; they were built to be a driver's car & a car that was reliable, comfortable, usable, as Dave said. These features are what sets them apart, what makes them rewrite history. Speed is nothing than a bonus, a basis for their design.

Ferdinand didn't design the Veyron to just take the McLaren's crown; he just set the speed as the benchmark for what he to accomplish. He essentially said to his team, "This car will be faster than the McLaren. Your job is not only to accomplish this feat, but you must also make it comfortable, reliable, & usable at all costs". And he did so (as seen with the losses they take on each car).

I know it appears I am rambling on & repeating Dave, but when I think seriously about the Veyron, I see it as a car that did everything it was meant to be, with no corners cut at all. The car just simply re-enforces the idea to me, that with enough patience & time, a manufacturer can really come along with something new that sets itself apart.

And unsurprisingly, it's just 1 more trait Bugatti shares with McLaren, and why they will always be 2 of the world's most influential & unique cars.

 

[daan]

As this thread can't be kept on topic.

EDIT: Re-opened at the request of the OP. Please keep it on topic this time. Topic is Bugatti in GT5.

 

[TorqueHappenS08]

Ok listen up, This thread is no longer going to go off topic, I have asked daan to reopen this thread and he kindly obliged, DO NOT GO OFF TOPIC As this is the bugatti thread, No other type of cars other then Bugatti should be mentioned here. Only Car's under the name of BUGATTI Can here on out be mentioned in this thread. I don't want to see any comparisons about The mclaren and Bugatti or Any other Type of car. Only Bugattis. as the tittle of thread implys. No talking about ranking in GT4, No wishlist of other car's from Non Bugatti car manufactures. This thread is only to be about Bugattis.

Type 57, Type 37, EB110, Veyron concepts. Excettera, and nothing more.

guide lines.

How do you feel about bugatti being in GT for the first time.

What car would you like to see in GT now that buggatis are in.

What Do you like or admire about Bugatti.

And any other questions to do with BUGATTI.

So i don't want see anything about a nissan GTR or a ferrari 458 italia.

Simple guide lines follow them. Thank you.

 

[Smoke&Slide]

I'd love to see the Bugatti Type 59, 35T with the short unsilenced exhaust system.I'd love to see the Type 57 Atlantique too, also the last of the EB110s.I'll think of more and re edit this post.

 

[Terronium-12]

Ok listen up, This thread is no longer going to go off topic, I have asked daan to reopen this thread and he kindly obliged, DO NOT GO OFF TOPIC As this is the bugatti thread, No other type of cars other then Bugatti should be mentioned here. Only Car's under the name of BUGATTI Can here on out be mentioned in this thread. I don't want to see any comparisons about The mclaren and Bugatti or Any other Type of car. Only Bugattis. as the tittle of thread implys. No talking about ranking in GT4, No wishlist of other car's from Non Bugatti car manufactures. This thread is only to be about Bugattis.

Type 57, Type 37, EB110, Veyron concepts. Excettera, and nothing more.

guide lines.

How do you feel about bugatti being in GT for the first time.

What car would you like to see in GT now that buggatis are in.

What Do you like or admire about Bugatti.

And any other questions to do with BUGATTI.

So i don't want see anything about a nissan GTR or a ferrari 458 italia.

Simple guide lines follow them. Thank you.

I don't know how anyone else feels, but you've just defeated the purpose of your own thread. It started off about Bugatti being in GT5, turned a bit into an appreciation/protest thread, and then a mixture of the two with a little nothing to do with on the side. Now, you want things that have been said roughly eighteen times over said again, what were you expecting when you started the thread? Now it's being turned into something about just Bugatti, a wishlist revolving around just Bugatti, admiration revolving around just Bugatti, and finally questions....revolving around just Bugatti.

As I think, defeats the purpose of what has been great conversation save for the few bumps and whatnot.

 

[dancardesigner]

I don't know how anyone else feels, but you've just defeated the purpose of your own thread. It started off about Bugatti being in GT5, turned a bit into an appreciation/protest thread, and then a mixture of the two with a little nothing to do with on the side. Now, you want things that have been said roughly eighteen times over said again, what were you expecting when you started the thread? Now it's being turned into something about just Bugatti, a wishlist revolving around just Bugatti, admiration revolving around just Bugatti, and finally questions....revolving around just Bugatti.

As I think, defeats the purpose of what has been great conversation save for the few bumps and whatnot.

+1:tup: Trouble is though that Daan will just close the thread again if we don't stick to Bugatti and what has been said umpteen times. Although i admit the thread went a little off course, at least what we were conversing had some purpose, as opposed to pointless speculation that has been repeated a trilion times.
Perhaps someone should open a thread in the auto news section, so the majority here can happily carry on conversing, and leave this thread to evolve into another wishlist.

If you ask me the thread title should be changed, because it currently has a title more apt for the auto news section.

 

[Peter]

Bugatti being in GT5 is among the best news about the entire GT series. I'd love to see the all in GT5, even the ones I'd only want to stare at and take pictures of all day. Bugattis have always had the luxury and special quality that only a few others have implemented into their cars properly, especially the Veyron, it's one of a kind compared to its rivals.

That's my example of what should be posted in this thread. Please, NO going off topic, the ferrari 458 likes this thread and will run over you if you make it become closed again.

 

[The Vanishing Boy]

-> Hmm, my question lies on the current Bugatti line-up.

-> Right now the 16.4 Veyron is becoming the new Mustang/Skyline GT-R/Corvette/Evo/STi when it becomes to special edition models. Let me explain:

* 2009 Bugatti Veyron Grand Sport Sang Bleu
* 2009 Bugatti Veyron Grand Sport
* 2009 Bugatti Veyron Fbg par Hermes
* 2009 Bugatti Veyron Centenaire
* 2009 Bugatti Veyron Bleu Centenaire
* 2009 Bugatti Veyron
* 2008 Bugatti Veyron Sang Noir
* 2008 Bugatti Veyron Fbg par Hermes
* 2007 Bugatti Veyron Pur Sang
* 2005 Bugatti Veyron
* 2004 Bugatti EB 164 Veyron (concept)

(source from NetCarShow.com)

-> The only other Bugatti known in the whole global general public is the understated EB110. Which the EB110 has only these

- 1991 EB110
- 1992 EB110 SS

^ Even with the Veyron's special editions library; it is still miniscule compared to like...lets say, Maserati for example. How will PD manage its lineup? Will it be just the two cars (16.4 & EB110)? Or all the car that I mentioned?

 

[dancardesigner]

You missed one

 

[The Vanishing Boy]

^ Thats a good one mate!

BT-> I might also add some of their concept cars too:

^ Not much difference in the car count department either. If I add Ettore's fleet, many would complain the the cars would be "useless" or "too slow".

-> And please don't add the Stratos concept or other notable "fan designs" either, in which was not officially commisioned by Bugatti SAS:

^ These only belongs to my Wish List, ha ha!