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Arrrrh, the Bugatti Veyron CS3 đź‘Ť
 
-> Hmm, my question lies on the current Bugatti line-up.

-> Right now the 16.4 Veyron is becoming the new Mustang/Skyline GT-R/Corvette/Evo/STi when it becomes to special edition models. Let me explain:
There is a difference though. The reason Bugatti continues to offer special editions is to get to their target number of 300 Veyrons (& 150 Grand Sports). And so far, 200 have been built, 50 more are going on the assembly line, & only 50 are left to order.
* 2009 Bugatti Veyron Grand Sport Sang Bleu
* 2009 Bugatti Veyron Grand Sport
* 2009 Bugatti Veyron Fbg par Hermes
* 2009 Bugatti Veyron Centenaire
* 2009 Bugatti Veyron Bleu Centenaire
* 2009 Bugatti Veyron
* 2008 Bugatti Veyron Sang Noir
* 2008 Bugatti Veyron Fbg par Hermes
* 2007 Bugatti Veyron Pur Sang
* 2005 Bugatti Veyron
* 2004 Bugatti EB 164 Veyron (concept)
The 2009 & 2008 Fbg par Hermes are the same cars. There's no difference except the 2009 offers a couple new colors.

The 2009 & 2005 Veyron have no differences. The options available on the 2009 have been there since the '05. It's the special editions where Bugatti has done something new.

Even with the Veyron's special editions library; it is still miniscule compared to like...lets say, Maserati for example. How will PD manage its lineup? Will it be just the two cars (16.4 & EB110)? Or all the car that I mentioned?

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I assume PD will just include the Veyron, the Grand Sport, & the Bleu Centenaire as it marks 100 years at most. However, I believe the latter 2, if they are being modeled, will be in sometime after the game's release.

Perhaps 1 of the 16.4 concepts may make it in as well; probably the one pictured with the Chiron.

The rest of the editions though, have no real difference; one's for a designer, the Pur Sang's only 200 lbs. lighter, the Sang Noir is just black, & the Centenaire's are nothing more than 4 one-off models that pay tribute to 4 Type 35's & their drivers' countries.


As a matter of fact, 1 of our members here just spotted the first Centenaire (the Britain model) delivered to a dealership in the UK.
 
So essentially the "Pur Sang" is the one to have - as it has actual differences? (i.e. less weight)

The rest are the same - but with different colours etc?

C.
 
Bugatti Type 41 (Royale) - The most coveted car in the world.
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I'd like to see in the game but it would turn out being the most expensive car, somewhere in the neighbourhood of 1 billion credits. Still, it would be fun to drive a car weighing 7000 lbs and having a 12.7 liter engine.
 
So essentially the "Pur Sang" is the one to have - as it has actual differences? (i.e. less weight)

The rest are the same - but with different colours etc?

C.
The Pur Sang is still a Veyron at heart. The only thing that makes it "different" is that it exposes its bare aluminum alloy & carbon-fiber body; there's no paint finish. This is how it saves around 100kg according to sources.

In a run down, all Veyron's are the exact same (bar the Grand Sport; removable top). The only differences are the exclusive exterior finishes, wheel designs, & details to certain models.

In quick list.

Veyron:
-Whatever the factory will allow.
Veyron Fpg par Hermes:
-New grill.
-8-spoke wheels with "H" on the center caps.
-New fuel filler cap with model name on it.
-Exclusive color combination with 6 choices; the car will retain 1 color for its entire body while the 2nd color makes up the hood, interior color, & spoiler color. This 2nd color is almost that of a large "stripe".
-Interior includes aluminum dash, calfskin leather, & door handles like those found on Hermes luggage.

~This edition is dedicated to the 1924 Type 35.
~2009 offered the edition, 4 more color options.
Veyron Pur Sang:
-Bare aluminum alloy & carbon fiber. That's it.
-Unique wheel design.
-Limit of 5 made.
Veyron Sang Noir:
-All black exterior with unpainted carbon fiber panels.
-Unique wheel design with black powdercoating.
-Aluminum lining that separates the paint & the carbon fibre; seen at the rear.
-Aluminum on the mirrors & grill surround.
-Blacked out headlight casings.
-Tan-Colored Leather matched with Alcantara interior.
-Originally limited to 5, upped to 15.

~Edition is dedicated to the 1930's Atlantique 57S.
Veyron Bleu Centenaire:
-Following the Pur Sang, the car shaves off 100kg.
-Finished in Bugatti Blue w/ matte finish on the fenders and doors, & paint for the body.
-Aluminum roof strips, & mirrors; just like the Sang Noir.
-Mirror-finish grill.
-LED lights, parking control, & rearview camera.*
-Unique interior finish.
-Celebrates 100 years of Bugatti.
Veyron Centenaires:
-4 one-off models.
-Added the Hermes wheels.
-Finished in aluminum panels with specific paint color for the driver's home country.
-Italian Racing Red commemorates Achille Varzi.
-British Racing Green commemorates Sir Malcom Campell.
-French Racing Blue commemorates Jean-Pierre Wimille.
-Off-Set White to commemorate German driver, Hermann zu Leiningen.
-Also celebrate 100 years of Bugatti.

*I had previously stated earlier that there were no differences between 2005 & 2009 Bugatti Veyrons. However, looking at the Bleu Centenaire, the 3 features noted are now standard.

There are also 2 Veyrons noted as the Pegaso Edition which is just aftermarket work & claims 1,200Hp. The other is a Vincero edition touting 1,100Hp. However, this too, is an aftermarket job created by Mansory and only 3 were built. The differences for this model though, is notably the finish, V-Shaped grill, LEDs, & re-done interior; anything else is unknown.
 
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So Pur Sang and Bleu Centenarie are the 2 models to have then - as they have less weight... thus increasing their PWR...

Wikipedia
Curb weight is 2,034.8 kg (4,486 lb).[10] This gives the car a power to weight ratio, according to Volkswagen's 1001 bhp estimate, of 446.3 bhp per ton.

So - with the slightly lesser weight you're looking at 517.37 BHP per ton (Assuming a weight of 1934.8kg and power of 1001BHP)...

The difference sounds like quite a lot!!

Until you realise that the write of Wikipedia chuffed the calc...

And it's actually 491.9 BHP per Tonne.

C.
 
So Pur Sang and Bleu Centenarie are the 2 models to have then - as they have less weight... thus increasing their PWR...



So - with the slightly lesser weight you're looking at 517.37 BHP per ton (Assuming a weight of 1934.8kg and power of 1001BHP)...

The difference sounds like quite a lot!!

Until you realise that the write of Wikipedia chuffed the calc...

And it's actually 491.9 BHP per Tonne.

C.
That is the general theory though. However, I doubt any of the Pur Sang owners are anything more than, "Look at me" fellows & I'm not counting on Bugatti or anyone else actually grabbing hold of a Centenaire to test how the dropped weight affects the performance. Shame. :indiff:
 
-> Hmm, my question lies on the current Bugatti line-up.

-> Right now the 16.4 Veyron is becoming the new Mustang/Skyline GT-R/Corvette/Evo/STi when it becomes to special edition models. Let me explain:

* 2009 Bugatti Veyron Grand Sport Sang Bleu
* 2009 Bugatti Veyron Grand Sport
* 2009 Bugatti Veyron Fbg par Hermes
* 2009 Bugatti Veyron Centenaire
* 2009 Bugatti Veyron Bleu Centenaire
* 2009 Bugatti Veyron
* 2008 Bugatti Veyron Sang Noir
* 2008 Bugatti Veyron Fbg par Hermes
* 2007 Bugatti Veyron Pur Sang
* 2005 Bugatti Veyron
* 2004 Bugatti EB 164 Veyron (concept)

(source from NetCarShow.com)

-> The only other Bugatti known in the whole global general public is the understated EB110. Which the EB110 has only these

- 1991 EB110
- 1992 EB110 SS

^ Even with the Veyron's special editions library; it is still miniscule compared to like...lets say, Maserati for example. How will PD manage its lineup? Will it be just the two cars (16.4 & EB110)? Or all the car that I mentioned?

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I hope its all the Veyrons you mentioned but instead of having them as complete different cars, you should just be able to choose them as different paint jobs or for the grandsport just a setting to take the roof off.
 
Well, I'm definitely glad they're in. Although I'm excited about the Veyron, it won't be the only Bugatti I'll drive. I hope we get a good selection, though.. not just the EB110, but some of the older ones, too.
 
Ah. The Chiron. (Lower left) W18 555BHP.

btw, speaking of the Veyron concept, I remember seeing this article in either Road&Track or Car&Driver where the Veyron EB16.4 was on the same page as the Audi Project Rosemeyer and the Hispano-Suiza HS21 (something like that). And the strange thing was is that all of them looked vaguely similar in terms of body-shape and grille. Bugatti had the grille, however, as it has for the last 80-something years;that typical arch-shape. The irony is that the article said the production of the Veyron: "Never is a distinct possibility"

Yeah, a bit off-topic. But we need the EB110, just so people don't get too much into the Veyron-hype.
 
As a matter of fact, 1 of our members here just spotted the first Centenaire (the Britain model) delivered to a dealership in the UK.

lol I didn't even realise that it was a Centenaire until I just read what you wrote.

So going back tomorrow for a better snoop. ;)
 
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Bugatti EB218 concept. a classic case in what the hell were they thinking.

cover up the grill and people would thinks it's an alfa romeo.
 
I sure hope we see more Bugattis than only the Veyron, especially the really old ones, having said that, they should include their latest concept, the 4-door 16C Galibier, i think they will eventually produce it in the near future.
It has the same 16 cylinder engine as the Veyron although detuned.

Here it is, and i really like it

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As the Veyron could be considered as the spiritual successor to the Atlantic, this is probably the successor to the Royale.
 
As the Veyron could be considered as the spiritual successor to the Atlantic, this is probably the successor to the Royale.
hmmmm good thinking, i never thought of it that way.đź‘Ť
 
Brilliant! First we get Ferarri. Then we get Buggati and Lambourgini. Now all we need is Porshe and Grand Tursimo will be nearly complete. Now, what about Koenigsegg?

You managed to misspell Ferrari, Bugatti and Lamborghini but not Koenigsegg? :D

JK M8.

Do we have any pictures at all of the Veyron? If i´m not mistkaken there have only been two pics of it, and it was on some sort of postcard right?

Anyway, anybody got some pics of it?

I think the Veyron's a bit overrated, but I'll probably enjoy the heck out of it anyway.

Interesting, besides being the most advanced and extreme car ever to be mass-produced, what exactly do you think is overated?

It´s actually a bargain compared to it´s "rivals" if you even can call them that.
 
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Interesting, besides being the most advanced and extreme car ever to be mass-produced, what exactly do you think is overated?

It´s actually a bargain compared to it´s "rivals" if you even can call them that.

There are no direct rivals ( price/ quality it offers, etc. ) and it is probably the most advanced car and certainly the most extreme performancewise.
However that doesn't have to mean it can't be overrated.

It's the most hyped car in recent history, and after reading several road tests the overal conclusion seems to be impressive but slightly underwhelming, hence overrated as a purely involving driver's car. ;)
 
Interesting, besides being the most advanced and extreme car ever to be mass-produced, what exactly do you think is overated?

It´s actually a bargain compared to it´s "rivals" if you even can call them that.

huh wut?
 
There are no direct rivals ( price/ quality it offers, etc. ) and it is probably the most advanced car and certainly the most extreme performancewise.
However that doesn't have to mean it can't be overrated.

It's the most hyped car in recent history, and after reading several road tests the overal conclusion seems to be impressive but slightly underwhelming, hence overrated as a purely involving driver's car. ;)

Don´t understand how you can call it overrated..
It weighs two tons but still has awsome handling, It´s been praised by many racing car drivers.
And of course it´s not as involving as lets say an Enzo but it wasn´t meant to be that and no one has ever said it was. So how is it overrated?
Consider it´s weight it does everything remarkably well.

Bottom line is, This car moves through the corners like a porsche but it still weighs 2 tones, If anything it´s underrated..
 

don´t know if it´s the spellin or if i used the wrong word. I´m from sweden so my english isn´t perfect.

example,
Bugatti Veyron - 300ish to be made.
SSC Ultimate Aero - what, 10-20 max.

Maybe you know the correct word for this?
 
the veyron is not mass produced. 300 cars is a very limited production run. I think the SSC Aero is made to order, so they only make as many as people front them money for. With the veyron, and enzo, they set a number of cars at the start and made them.
 
Don´t understand how you can call it overrated..
It weighs two tons but still has awsome handling, It´s been praised by many racing car drivers.
And of course it´s not as involving as lets say an Enzo but it wasn´t meant to be that and no one has ever said it was. So how is it overrated?
Consider it´s weight it does everything remarkably well.

Bottom line is, This car moves through the corners like a porsche but it still weighs 2 tones, If anything it´s underrated..

I didn't say it was overrated, i would like to find out if i was given the chance to drive one ;), i just pointed out it wasn't universally greeted with as much enthusiasm a car costing that much should probably recieve.

I also pointed out that despite a car's performance which might be impressive on paper with all the figures of weight, cornering ability etc. might not in general translate therefor to an impressive drive in real life circumstances.

In general, not implying the Veyron is overrated as such.
 

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