Bugatti thread.
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Last test of a Veyron has it 0-200mph in 28 seconds, which is the same time as Autocar timed the Mclaren F1 back in the day. Of coure likely different conditions etc but not enough to show a huge non existant performance gap between the 2 cars.
Mclaren F1 (AUTOCAR)
0-30mph 1.8 sec
0-60mph 3.2 sec
0-100mph 6.3 sec
0-150mph 12.8 sec
0-200mph 28 sec
30-70mph 2.1 sec
0-400m 11.1 / 138 sec/mph
0-1000m 19.6 / 177 sec/mph
30-50mph in 3rd/4th 1.8 / 2.3
40-60mph in 4th/5th 2.3 / 2.8 sec
Bugatti Vyeron (Evo Magazine)
0-30-----1.4
0-40-----1.9
0-50-----2.3
0-60-----2.8
0-70-----3.4
0-80-----4.1
0-90-----4.9
0-100----5.8
0-120----7.9
0-130----9.1
0-140----10.5
0-150----12
0-160 ----13.9
0-170----16.2
0-180----19.1
0-190----23.00
0-200----28.6
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People need to stop listing things Jeremy Clarkson says as facts. The guy is awesome but sometimes he's wrong and he's dead wrong on that Bugatti/McLaren thing (Veyron beats McLaren to 200 MPH while giving it a 100 MPH headstart). Just watch the two cars race heads up over a mile. The McLaren is with the Veyron the entire way (yeah, hot conditions, but still, it was a close race).
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dancardesigner
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People don't seem to realise that a lot of what Jeremy Clarkson says and what TopGear portrays is absolute bull. It's turned into more of an entertainment show over the years as opposed to offering realistic reviews on cars. Don't get me wrong i love TopGear, it's my favourite show, but a lot of what they say shouldn't be taken literally. They crack jokes and make false statements all the time without ever clearing things up afterwards, the BBC assumes most people have the intelligence to clock on. I mean look at that whole ordeal with Schumacher being the stig, that was clearly bull, but at the time some people believed it and the show still has not come out and cleared things up. They are blatently lying on TV.
Im still amazed how the Big Mac manages to get so close to the performance of the Veyron with so much less horsepower and torque, especially at top speed. If you were to give me one of them id take the Mclaren every time, i mean the Veyron can't even be used to brag about being the fastest car in the world anymore, because that crown was stolen by the ultimate aero.
I mean if it's such a great car why has Jenson Button put his up for sale and kept a load of less exotic, more common performance cars, it's not like he can't afford it, his wealth is in excess of £60 million?
Im still amazed how the Big Mac manages to get so close to the performance of the Veyron with so much less horsepower and torque, especially at top speed. If you were to give me one of them id take the Mclaren every time, i mean the Veyron can't even be used to brag about being the fastest car in the world anymore, because that crown was stolen by the ultimate aero.
I mean if it's such a great car why has Jenson Button put his up for sale and kept a load of less exotic, more common performance cars, it's not like he can't afford it, his wealth is in excess of £60 million?
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As long as I can understand what he is saying, it's good enough for me. The only spelling I see is wrong there are combined words, but as long as the first and last letters are in the right position, no trouble for me (or any other humans).
But Dave does have a point. No need to look further than GT4 (
). The difference between a bad license lap at the Nürburgring and a good one at it is huge.
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Nobody gives a rats about some kit-built American car though. Same way that people ignored the Callaway Sledgehammer.
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My point was that the Mclaren to me is a better overall car, a true supercar, not some lounge with a rocket up its ass. The only thing i feel of any importance the Veyron had going for it was that it could claim to be the fastest car in the world, but now it doesn't even have that i have assigned it to the history books. That car is nothing like the milestone the Mclaren was for its time. People go on about how yu can go superfast in comfort, Well A, you can't hit the topspeed of the veyron legally on the road to give a crap about comfort anyway, only on a track where you wouldn't give a toss and B if i wanted to go that fast or faster in comfort i would board one of those 350mph+ hyper trains in Japan.
Tell me what really is a usefull purpose for the veyron, it's no longer the quickest, it's not the best track car, no one gives a crap about going 250 in comfort because you can't go that fast anyway on the road, and it is not the best all round compromise. Plus i think it's ugly, but that's just a preference
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My point was that the Mclaren to me is a better overall car, a true supercar, not some lounge with a rocket up its ass. The only thing i feel of any importance the Veyron had going for it was that it could claim to be the fastest car in the world, but now it doesn't even have that i have assigned it to the history books. That car is nothing like the milestone the Mclaren was for its time. People go on about how yu can go superfast in comfort, Well A, you can't hit the topspeed of the veyron legally on the road to give a crap about comfort anyway, only on a track where you wouldn't give a toss and B if i wanted to go that fast or faster in comfort i would board one of those 350mph+ hyper trains in Japan.
Tell me what really is a usefull purpose for the veyron, it's no longer the quickest, it's not the best track car, no one gives a crap about going 250 in comfort because you can't go that fast anyway on the road, and it is not the best all round compromise. Plus i think it's ugly, but that's just a preference
To an extent I agree with you, but the fact is that the Veyron was first to 400km/h in a properly engineered, effortless package that in some ways masked what was a truly staggering set of achievements. I mean 1001hp, in a car that was comfortable enough for your grandmother to drive, and as reliable and user-friendly as a VW Golf. If anything, its core strengh is then also its weakness for testosterone-driven car nuts like us, its too simple, too easy, not balls-out enough.
I dunno, I have huge respect for it, but I don't love it the way I do a Zonda, or F50, or McLaren.
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, Especially the Zonda F
, not sure about the R though
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Well said Dave.
I respect the Veyron for it's massive performance, and there's no doubt that it's bogging down awfully in some of these tests. I've seen it reviewed by extremely good, experienced test drivers who say that it turns, stops, and rides as well as any other supercar, and does indeed have massively more speed.
Having said that, I know I will always love driving the "purer" cars way more than these uber-engineered missiles like the veyron or the GTR.
I don't have to think long or hard about the prospect of having the F1 road car in GT5 compared to the Veyron, to know which one makes me more excited.
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FM2 waves hello.
Honestly, that kind of stuff was common with different Hondas, especially the Civic for some time. With each physics patch, it seems that another car takes its place.I am expecting something of an earthquake when people start buying or winning those Veyrons, and then they don't instantly teleport to the other end of the track, and/or it gets beaten by another unmodified car. You have to know that the V worshipers will be invading boards all across the nets within minutes.
Like many of the posters here I just don't share the lust for this car. Give me that EB110, or a 355 Challenge. Or an NSX. Or a Supra MkIII. Or an MR2 MkI. Or a real race car, if you wanna go fast. But my joyband runs for the most part between 200 - 400 bhp.
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This is how a TopFuel accelerates just for reference.
Veyron eat my shorts
Veyron eat my shorts
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- BasedAckbar
pshhh....my dad's accord can beat that drag car....
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I'm reminded of the two F1 vehicles the Veyron was compared to pages ago as far as innovation went.
Ridiculous.
Ridiculous.
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I dont know if anyone has yet done this, but is it REALLY that reliable? Has anyone taken one for several hours of racing and not had reliability issues with it? Something that needs (from wiki)...
3 radiators for the engine cooling system.
1 heat exchanger for the air-to-liquid intercoolers.
2 for the air conditioning system.
1 transmission oil radiator.
1 differential oil radiator.
1 engine oil radiator.
1 hydraulic oil radiator for the spoiler
That list doesn't fill me with confidence as far as reliability or even the thought that its "well engineered" is concerned.
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^All those radiators actually ensure the engine's reliability. If it didn't have those, I'm sure the turbos would've blown up the engine.
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This is how a TopFuel accelerates just for reference.
Veyron eat my shorts
what about when the road suddenly isn't a straight anymore, but *gasp* turns, has a corner etc..
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I can't understand why people won't accept the Veyron as a supercar. If a Mclaren nears 240 mph, and the Veyron can go past 250 mph, then why is it not a supercar? Yes The Mclaren holds the aura of awesomeness and awe, but the Veyron should be held in such light as well.
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We have veered off of the original topic, which happens here every time someone posts about the Veyron, as we're supposed to be discussing all Bugattis, not just the Veyron, in GT5. Not Veyron vs F1. Not Top Gear. Not how fast the Veyron went round the 'ring.
So lets get back to Bugatti being in GT5.
So lets get back to Bugatti being in GT5.
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Well now, I don't think you should be ready with the hammer just yet. This is the Bugatti thread. The Veyron is the king of the Bugatti pack. You know it's going to be the hot topic, no matter what board this would be on. Personally, I think anything dealing with the Veyron does belong here, otherwise you'd be arguing that each tangent on a subject requires a different thread. And good lord, we have enough thread clutter as it is. I say let the kids have their fun in here as long as it deals with the topic at hand.
Like I said much earlier, I'm much more interested in the EB110, but that subject fizzled pretty quick. And I am interested to see how sound the arguments are that the V isn't just a road rocket made to go straight as fast as possible and good for little else, which was my original thought.
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