Bugs, Glitches and Ongoing Issues

[CAMAROBOY69]

It's been said before, but the rewind issue in endurance races really needs a fix. The worst part is that it throws you back to who knows where and then restarts in some weird camera angle with sudden camera movement. I literally had no clue where I was, where I was going, and promptly went off track again or even crashed. I found I had to repeat the rewind process several times in order to figure out what's what, giving me vertigo in the process. I know, I know, it's my fault for using rewind, but I'm just not able to keep up my concentration for such a long time anymore, it's a must have in endurance races for me, and the last thing I need is a motion sickness inducing feature.

I've encountered this issue and it definitely is annoying during the endurance races. I've also had the rewind flat out not work at times, only to work again a few minutes later.

The rewind usually wont work while the AI is pitting. If you give it 30 seconds to a minute, it will usually work again. And will rewind at least 30 seconds to a minute prior to your location.

 

[HBR-Roadhog]

Restart an endurance race? I think not!

Why not? Odds are if you are not driving well enough to win and have issues with crashing it is going to happen early in the race so there is no issue with restarting.

 

[SPhilli911]

Why not? Odds are if you are not driving well enough to win and have issues with crashing it is going to happen early in the race so there is no issue with restarting.

Not entirely true, I've been in wrecks towards the end of the endurance races due to the AI. For example, the final lap of the Le Mans endurance I got brake-checked by an AI and had to limp to the finish since my rewind was off.

 

[ImaRobot]

Why not? Odds are if you are not driving well enough to win and have issues with crashing it is going to happen early in the race so there is no issue with restarting.

Well the issue is not winning or not. It's something randomly happening that would cause you to crash. Accidents do happen.

 

[HBR-Roadhog]

Yes it is always possible to have an incident near the end that can cause you to loose but if that be the case then that is the result that should happen. IMO rewind should have never been added to the game as an option. It is just a giant sized cheat.

If you crash you have the option to keep racing, quit or restart

 

[ImaRobot]

Yes it is always possible to have an incident near the end that can cause you to loose but if that be the case then that is the result that should happen. IMO rewind should have never been added to the game as an option. It is just a giant sized cheat.

If you crash you have the option to keep racing, quit or restart

If that's the case, restarting and quitting might as well be taken out too. You should have to sit through the race and let the other racers finish before your allowed to leave.

 

[CAMAROBOY69]

Yes it is always possible to have an incident near the end that can cause you to loose but if that be the case then that is the result that should happen. IMO rewind should have never been added to the game as an option. It is just a giant sized cheat.

If you crash you have the option to keep racing, quit or restart

I find that turning the rewind option off eliminates any issues with rewind
Seriously though you should not need to use rewind and if your concentration starts to wander simply pause the game in a safe spot and take a little break. If you crash and can't win then restart. I know they added rewind to help new racers be able to win races but I have always thought it should not be there at all.

The one place I would like to see and would actually use rewind if it were available is in test drive mode as it could be very useful when tuning but of course it was not available in that mode where it would actually be useful.... or actually I have not tried it in FM6 to see if that is still the case or not. I just turned it off as soon as I started playing and never turned it back on again.

Does anyone know if they have changed it so that it can be used in test drive mode now?

In that case they should also remove the pause button. You cant pause in real life. Its not a feature you have to use, so if you don't like it, don't use it. Besides, if you do rewind, you are penalized because you lose a certified lap time and you don't receive as big of a payout when finished.

 

[PzR Slim]

If that's the case, restarting and quitting might as well be taken out too. You should have to sit through the race and let the other racers finish before your allowed to leave.

Not to mention having to wait a whole year before the race is run again

 

[HBR-Roadhog]

In that case they should also remove the pause button. You cant pause in real life. Its not a feature you have to use, so if you don't like it, don't use it. Besides, if you do rewind, you are penalized because you lose a certified lap time and you don't receive as big of a payout when finished.

Pause is needed because it is a game, things happen like phone rings, doorbell, whatever. Yes it is not like real life and it never will be but still rewind is just a silly option that removes any little bit of challenge that may have once been in career mode, combine that with the mods and it is more like an arcade game.

 

[VXR]

So what if it is? At least they're optional.

 

[ImaRobot]

Pause is needed because it is a game, things happen like phone rings, doorbell, whatever. Yes it is not like real life and it never will be but still rewind is just a silly option that removes any little bit of challenge that may have once been in career mode, combine that with the mods and it is more like an arcade game.

I see it more as being a video game that has a broad range of styles that lets anyone customize it to play how they see fit. Not sure how its more arcade like just because it gives you options. Just as you think the rewind removes a challange, so does restart and quitting. If anything then, you shouldn't even be allowed to redo that race. ever.

Just like your example, things happen, phone rings, doorbell, whatever. Sometimes you think you press pause and it turns out you actually didn't. Sometimes it falls over and something occasionally will press against a button, unpausing it.

 

[killerjimbag]

I see it more as being a video game that has a broad range of styles that lets anyone customize it to play how they see fit. Not sure how its more arcade like just because it gives you options. Just as you think the rewind removes a challange, so does restart and quitting. If anything then, you shouldn't even be allowed to redo that race. ever.

Just like your example, things happen, phone rings, doorbell, whatever. Sometimes you think you press pause and it turns out you actually didn't. Sometimes it falls over and something occasionally will press against a button, unpausing it.

Kinda hard for my wheel to unscrew itself from my stand,but I guess it's possible? But how would you pause or rewind,when your batteries die? This is 2015 correct? Batteries for a controller, hmmm?

 

[ImaRobot]

Kinda hard for my wheel to unscrew itself from my stand,but I guess it's possible? But how would you pause or rewind,when your batteries die? This is 2015 correct? Batteries for a controller, hmmm?

What does this have to do with anything?

 

[killerjimbag]

What does this have to do with anything?

Sometimes it falls and unpauses itself? Something presses against the controller? Your batteries die and you can't pause or rewind,like I said kinda hard when its bolted to my stand,wheels don't have batteries, don't fall off of stand.

 

[ImaRobot]

Sometimes it falls and unpauses itself? Something presses against the controller? Your batteries die and you can't pause or rewind,like I said kinda hard when its bolted to my stand,wheels don't have batteries, don't fall off of stand.

So that somehow takes away from my point about rewind doesn't make a game more arcade, how?

 

[killerjimbag]

So that somehow takes away from my point about rewind doesn't make a game more arcade, how?

Rewind, like a mulligan? A do over? Sorry you failed,but backup and do it again till you get it right? Yeah I got it. Arcade,actually no arcade games allow that so your correct!👍
Hey,go Jays!

 

[ImaRobot]

Rewind, like a mulligan? A do over? Sorry you failed,but backup and do it again till you get it right? Yeah I got it. Arcade,actually no arcade games allow that so your correct!👍
Hey,go Jays!

It's either the way your putting together a sentence(or actually a lack of it) or some sort of reading comprehension issue but you aren't making much sense. I'm not even sure you know what point you're trying to make.

 

[killerjimbag]

It's either the way your putting together a sentence(or actually a lack of it) or some sort of reading comprehension issue but you aren't making much sense. I'm not even sure you know what point you're trying to make.

Mulligan, : a gimme,do it again at no cost of a stroke."Golf lingo"
A do over, :when you fail your test and the teacher gives you "a do over"
So now that I've structured it to be comprehensive, I hope I have enlightened your thought process.
Rewind is used in this game when you "fail" or "Drivertards" interfere with your driving experience or lack there of.

 

[ImaRobot]

Mulligan, : a gimme,do it again at no cost of a stroke."Golf lingo"
A do over, :when you fail your test and the teacher gives you "a do over"
So now that I've structured it to be comprehensive, I hope I have enlightened your thought process.
Rewind is used in this game when you "fail" or "Drivertards" interfere with your driving experience or lack there of.

I know what every one of those words mean, I wasn't asking for a definition. This just furthers what I said about you not exactly knowing what point you're trying to make. You seem to just keep going on and on about something that we're talking about, yet not adding one thing relevant to the discussion.

 

[killerjimbag]

I know what every one of those words mean, I wasn't asking for a definition. This just furthers what I said about you not exactly knowing what point you're trying to make. You seem to just keep going on and on about something that we're talking about, yet not adding one thing relevant to the discussion.

OK,I believe "rewind" should not be in any form of racing games/sims. It is a crutch for either 🤬 driving or 🤬 physics,programming. No matter how you sugar coat it,cow 🤬 smells like cow 🤬.

 

[phonypoly]

and why does my Tag session gets disconnected when someone else in my household uses the internet?
I have high speed tested @ 70+ Up.. and 11+ Down ... 🤬

 

[doctorrg]

Seriously though you should not need to use rewind and if your concentration starts to wander simply pause the game in a safe spot and take a little break.

Fair point, but sometimes I don't realize it in time that my concentration has wandered. I usually realize it when I crash for no apparent reason and suddenly find myself with a broken car.

If you crash and can't win then restart. I know they added rewind to help new racers be able to win races but I have always thought it should not be there at all.

Fair opinion as well, and everyone is free to do what they want to do. But, it is there, and I, for one, do like to use it for endurance races. I'm in complete agreement with this:

Restart an endurance race? I think not!

As for:

Why not? Odds are if you are not driving well enough to win and have issues with crashing it is going to happen early in the race so there is no issue with restarting.

That is simply not true, at least not for me. The longer the race goes on the more my concentration seems to wander, so crashing is more likely to happen towards the end of the race. Some people may not have any issues with restarting an endurance race after an hour of play, I do. I don't have rewind on because I want to use it, I have it on in case I have an accident so I don't have to waste an entire hour of play, particularly for endurance races I do not plan on doing again.

OK,I believe "rewind" should not be in any form of racing games/sims. It is a crutch for either 🤬 driving or 🤬 physics,programming. No matter how you sugar coat it,cow 🤬 smells like cow 🤬.

I'm with @ImaRobot in not understanding what exactly you're trying to say. Yes, rewind is a crutch, it's a crutch for reversing unwanted accidents and still being able to complete an event rather than having to do it all over again. Did anyone ever say anything else? Or what exactly is sugar coated where? I don't have an issue with me using rewind, do you?

 

[killerjimbag]

Fair point, but sometimes I don't realize it in time that my concentration has wandered. I usually realize it when I crash for no apparent reason and suddenly find myself with a broken car.



Fair opinion as well, and everyone is free to do what they want to do. But, it is there, and I, for one, do like to use it for endurance races. I'm in complete agreement with this:


As for:



That is simply not true, at least not for me. The longer the race goes on the more my concentration seems to wander, so crashing is more likely to happen towards the end of the race. Some people may not have any issues with restarting an endurance race after an hour of play, I do. I don't have rewind on because I want to use it, I have it on in case I have an accident so I don't have to waste an entire hour of play, particularly for endurance races I do not plan on doing again.



I'm with @ImaRobot in not understanding what exactly you're trying to say. Yes, rewind is a crutch, it's a crutch for reversing unwanted accidents and still being able to complete an event rather than having to do it all over again. Did anyone ever say anything else? Or what exactly is sugar coated where? I don't have an issue with me using rewind, do you?

Yes I do. It's like an extra life
Sorry election night in Canada,did I read correct that your "concentration wanders" OK!
Oops I 🤬 up my bad,can I try again.
Yes you get the Participation Award too!

and why does my Tag session gets disconnected when someone else in my household uses the internet?
I have high speed tested @ 70+ Up.. and 11+ Down ... 🤬

Microsoft owns your,never mind

 

[doctorrg]

Yes I do. It's like an extra life

But what's it to you? Why do you care about other people using rewind?

did I read correct that your "concentration wanders" OK!

Yes, you did. You've heard that expression before, right? Even during the shortest endurance races, fatigue will set in, and the likelihood of mistakes increases as the race progresses. That's why I'm glad there's rewind, allows me to complete these events without turning down the difficulty and/or use cosmetic damage to offset eventual accidents. And yes, the latter is exactly what I'd do if there was no rewind, at least for the endurance races I do not wish to repeat. And no, I don't have an issue with that.

 

[mrPetros]

Yes I do. It's like an extra life
Sorry election night in Canada,did I read correct that your "concentration wanders" OK!
Oops I 🤬 up my bad,can I try again.
Yes you get the Participation Award too!

realism attack: hey, you know what? its A VIDEO GAME
and you know what else? it is in fact a very good (and 100% optional) tool for a racing game.

so go ahead, shoot them!!

ps. your comment that rewind is a crutch for bad programming/physics is quite funny

 

[SPhilli911]

Complaining about rewind in Forza is like complaining that you respawn in (insert your favorite FPS). It's a videogame, let it go.

 

[Minty]

I think if you race too rough in the T1 or various Lamborghini's and Ferraris your Xbox should just spontaneously combust.

 

[ImaRobot]

OK,I believe "rewind" should not be in any form of racing games/sims. It is a crutch for either 🤬 driving or 🤬 physics,programming. No matter how you sugar coat it,cow 🤬 smells like cow 🤬.

It's no different then allowing someone full Aids when racing, or having the options to do so. It doesn't effect anyone else, and it doesn't make you faster. It also has nothing to do with being a bad driver or the physics, you're just trying to grasp to far.

All it has to do with is getting caught in some kind of accident, and instead of wanting to restart a whole race and wasting time, you can just use rewind and get it over with. Using restart is literally no different, as the reason you'd likely do it is because you messed up and you aren't going to make first anymore. It falls in the same bracket.

 

[CAMAROBOY69]

Pause is needed because it is a game, things happen like phone rings, doorbell, whatever. Yes it is not like real life and it never will be but still rewind is just a silly option that removes any little bit of challenge that may have once been in career mode, combine that with the mods and it is more like an arcade game.

You cant say pause and restart are okay but rewind is not. Come on now that's just being silly. Not even worth continuing an argument after that kind of statement.

 

[dylansan]

Rewind is definitely different from pausing or restarting. Pausing doesn't make the actual race easier. You still have to string together a good race, just at your own pace. Same with restart. With rewind, as long as you can do every individual piece of the race well, it doesn't matter how consistent you are, which I think could lead to lazy driving.

However, I doubt most of you fall into that trap of paying little attention and rewinding all the mistakes. There's no harm done in an endurance race.

I'll make a comparison to Super Meat Boy, oddly. If that game had rewind it would become ridiculously easy. At the same time, that game has very short levels which take a lot of practice to get right. A race in Forza takes a while and generally, doing an entire race perfectly is not meant to be the challenge.

I don't use it. I might turn it on in the endurance races. I think it's perfectly valid but people should be careful not to rely on it because overuse could really ruin the gameplay.