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It weights 1400+ kg/3200+ lbs. Look it up. It's really, really heavy for a small car.

That is the gross vehicle weight, not curb weight. Trust me, curb weight is closer to 2,400 pounds. Curb weight + driver assuming you weigh 170 pounds should be under 2,600 pounds.

Curb weight = car + full tank of fuel + all fluids (oil, coolant etc.) (not including driver)
GVWR = curb weight + payload capacity

1995-98 Mazda Protege: Specs & Safety

Vehicle Dimensions
Specification 4-door sedan
Wheelbase, in. 102.6
Overall Length, in. 174.8
Overall Width, in. 67.3
Overall Height, in. 55.9
Curb Weight, lbs. 2385
Cargo Volume, cu. ft. 13.1
Standard Payload, lbs. --
Fuel Capacity, gals. 14.5
Seating Capacity 5
Front Head Room, in. 39.2
Max. Front Leg Room, in. 42.2
Rear Head Room, in. 37.4
Min. Rear Leg Room, in. 35.6

As I said before, I'm not invalidating the 3,200 pound figure. However, with a full tank of fuel plus all fluids, your car sitting by itself doesn't weigh anywhere near that. Gross vehicle weight is curb weight plus the cars payload capacity (how much weight the car can carry before it starts to break).

For comparison's sake, one could argue that my Brick weighs over 4,300 pounds. It could -- just not at the moment. The curb weight for a 1988 Volvo 740 Turbo is 3,201 pounds. So that means with a full tank plus me in the car, it weighs about 3,346 pounds. With me in the car it could theoretically carry another 900 pounds or so of "stuff".

Your car is a lot lighter than you think it is.
 
Just a little irritation but... my window sill rubber parts that create a seal between the window and the door is starting to dry out so it's harder to roll down the windows. :grumpy:
 
VIPFREAK
Just a little irritation but... my window sill rubber parts that create a seal between the window and the door is starting to dry out so it's harder to roll down the windows. :grumpy:
Well, my drivers side window wont work anymore... It will go down, but not back up. :crazy:

Oh, and my exhaust pipe rusted away from my muffler. My exhasut pipe does nothing anymore, and my muffler isn't doing much anymore, either...
 
VIPFREAK
Just a little irritation but... my window sill rubber parts that create a seal between the window and the door is starting to dry out so it's harder to roll down the windows. :grumpy:

My turbo boost gauge wasn't working... :mad:


...until now... :sly:

I fixed my boost gauge! Since I first bought the car, the boost gauge always read "atmospheric pressure". I've traced it to a rubber hose that seemed to have suffered some heat damage and had a small 1/4 inch diameter hole in it. I bought some electrical tape and feebly attempted to tape it up. I wasn't sure if it did anything at first, so I drove off. When I got back on the road, I noticed one of the gauges had bottomed out in the corner of my eye. Thinking the worst at first, I realized it was the boost gauge and immediately recognized it as reading "vacuum". When I tipped into the throttle a bit, it moved towards the top, and when I really got into it, it went into the yellow (positive boost pressure). It's the coolest thing to watch. :bowdown:

I had so much fun watching the boost gauge rise and drop, I nearly crashed several times! :dopey:

I can't wait to get back behind the wheel again. :dopey:

Event
Well, my drivers side window wont work anymore... It will go down, but not back up.

Oh, and my exhaust pipe rusted away from my muffler. My exhasut pipe does nothing anymore, and my muffler isn't doing much anymore, either...

Too bad about the window. A similar thing happened to me once, but it was because the window fell off its track. I had to put a plastic bag over it when it sat overnight.

As far as the exhaust is concerned, cut it off, including the catalytic converter. That will give you an extra 20-30 horsepower. :D
 
Well... wonderful. So, for awhile now the CD part of my aftermarket head unit has been dead but now it seems the whole head unit it degenerating. :dopey: it turns it self on and off, the vol is still "auto uping" and now the buttons freeze (meaning nothing works when pressed) :rolleyes:

I think I mentioned the drying out of my window strips where the windows go into the door too right? :dunce:
 
VIPFREAK
Well... wonderful. So, for awhile now the CD part of my aftermarket head unit has been dead but now it seems the whole head unit it degenerating. :dopey: it turns it self on and off, the vol is still "auto uping" and now the buttons freeze (meaning nothing works when pressed) :rolleyes:

I think I mentioned the drying out of my window strips where the windows go into the door too right? :dunce:

You should consider yourself lucky!

I have leaky fuel line!!! :ill: It's been temporarily patched together, but I still need to replace it.

I was wondering where that fuel smell was coming from... :dunce:

It's a 17 year old car, though, so... I guess that's to be expected. It could have been worse, though. It could have been the fuel tank...

...then I'd really be in some poo... :dopey:
 
:scared: ok me am! :dopey:

Good news: I might be getting a new tape player head unit from a 01 corolla for $20 and then I won't have to use a ****ty transmitter then. :D
 
ok, this is my 2nd time applying. i have a 1989 honda civic hatchback (the standard one) with a manual 4 speed, drums in rear and obviously no A.B.S., a lack of a radio, a lack of any power whatsoever, a horrible oil consumption problem, i actually went through 1.5 quarts of oil in a 45 mile drive. the first day i had plates on it, it decided to stop running and etc. we got it running, i drove it 10 minutes away from home and the passenger side drum brake locked up and pulled me quickly to a halt in the middle of traffic during a turn.
after moving back and forth for about 10 minutes, it started moving again with a horrible screaming sound coming from the drum.
the next day, it overheated 2 times and the throttle got stuck causing the idle to go up to 4,000 rpms, this in turn caused the car to smoke profusely, it made enough smoke to actually create a haze over the entire block.
we then replaced the thermostat and started running antifreeze in the formerly empty radiator thanks to a leaky hose. the idle was still stuck at 4k so we then bent the throttle plate to lower it seeing how adjusting the cable did nothing after any throttle was applied.
it blows hot air when you accelerate, no matter what. its radio is also missing.

2 days ago i had driven to the beach, which is aprox. 40 miles away, my passenger side drum (which had siezed up earlier) decided to crap out. to be more specific, the wheel cylinder failed and brake fluid profusely came out. i drove it home with little to no brakes for the 40 mile drive.
the hood is black with a single hood pin because the hood latch does not function properly, and after speaking with a former owner i found out why the trim is partially bubbly and rough on one side, it was next to a house that went up in flames.
i am also almost positive that it leaks fuel as the fuel gauge goes down over night.
someone also etched the word "eman" into the hood. it has a large unsighly TRD sticker on the trunk, and it also said AGRE with some spaces in between the letters where random letters were peeled off.

thanks for your time~ ivan <8- )
 
haha i applied for my 924, but the name porsche sent that application right through the window and off into my head with a brick attached.
 
I know this list is no longer being updated but this seems the best place to post this...

My mate Phil currently drives a 740i, which is brilliant, but it has not always been this way. Only 4 years ago phil owned a 1988 Ford Escort 1.8 D. Which he bought for £25.

The first problem came when he filled it with unleaded as he was used to going to the green pump. It ran anyway, badly, and he just kept adding diesel whenever he could to dilute it as much as possible.

One month into owning it, it required an MOT test, so he took it to the station, they looked it over and lifted it in the air. Phil watched in horror as the tester rubbed his chin, said "hmmmm" and then pushed his arm up to the elbow through the passenger footwell.

It failed.

But he got a free retest if he brought it back in the same day. So I helped him fix it, which we did using an old water boiler cover we found in my shed. We welded it over the hole, but ran out of gas halfway, but carried on anyway. If anyone has ever welded without gas, you'll know the true horror of what it looked like. We drove it back and it passed!

Two months later a rod broke. He needed a new engine. The only one he could find was not a 1.8D, but was the 1.6D from a 1985 fiesta...

When new these made a massive 54bhp, and this one had seen about 150000 miles. It fitted okay and we went for a drive, but there are no words to describe the "performance". We measured 0-60 and it was somewhere between 25 and 30 seconds depending on how you looked at the needle when it was wobbling near 60.

We noticed that the engine mounts may be worn when at a standstill, revving the engine made the gearstick move about 4 inches back and forth.

Shortly after this his wiper motors failed, so the general technique was to attach mole grips (vise grips) to the drivers wiper and intermittently lean out and manually wipe the screen.

It survived for another 6 months when we went to Oxford (80 miles) to see some mates and get drunk. I should mention that the car had a tendency to completely lose all coolant at random around once per month. And it did it at 80, foot flat to the floor on an A road near Oxford. the temperature went mental and we pulled over. With no water, we filled the radiator with the only things we had, 2 litres of apple tango and what we had in our bladders. We made it to oxford in good time, and inspected the motor. The thin steel bypass pipe from the head to radiator had corroded through from the inside. After a few months of ownership Phil's rear seat looked like a tool shed to cope with the breakages, so we looked around. The only suitable thing we found was a tube of chemical metal. So, we slapped some all over it. Waited for it to set and put some more on. In the end there was a lemon sized lump of chemi metal on this pipe. It managed to get us all the way back and it was two months before he got a new pipe.

I have to say at this point that although anything electrical, or chassis related was liable to fail at any time, usually the most annoying time, heaters in winter, window openers in summer... etc. the engine was totally completely indestructible. When you have only 50ish bhp to use, everywhere is full throttle, maximum thrashing. That engine took so much and still went it was astonishing.

The final straw came after 18 monts owning this heap. On the way to work, only 2 miles from his house and 12 to go, the coolant blew again. But he decided to go for it, hell to everything and see if it'll get there.

3 miles - temp needle hits max

4 miles - temp needle over max, heaters on, windows open.

7 miles - noticable power decrease and unusual smells from car.

8 miles - heaters off, as air is too hot to bear.

With only one mile to go, it died approaching the roundabout on the A444 crossing the M6. Into neutral, coast into luckily placed layby. He had overheated a Diesel. He tried the key a few times and got nothing, no movement. Siezed, he assumed.

He got out and walked up to the front, you could feel the massive heat from the wheelarches and grille and there was a visible large heat haze over the whole body, and about a hand size section of peeling paint on the bonnet. He has gloves, and so popped the bonnet, when he opened it the air blast burnt the hair off his arms (I saw this!) The header casting was a nice cherry colour and everything was gently smoking off all the congealed oil and crap.

He called in and got picked up for work. His boss told him that he could take the recovery vehicle (he worked for a hire car company repairing hire cars, obviously) and pick it up, so he went with a colleague to the layby and despite the bonnet being open, noone had nicked it.

Now cold, he decided to try and see if the key would work. It fired on the first turn, and he drove to work. He filled the coolant up and drove home that night.

He'd had enough o it though and had enough money for a new car, so he got rid of it, but not to a scrapper... It was sold on! It was bought by someone he knew who needed a vehicle cheaply and quickly. He paid for it with a box of marlboro lights and a 12 pack of guinness draught cans. Personally I think phil ripped him off.

I'd like to think it's still going now, but that engine must have given in by now, surely...


Kurtis.
 
my eyes teared up from laughing so much Kurtis <8- D reminds me of my civic (recently added) it was in the red temperature wise, and the last turn from my house i heard a massive pop.
actually now i have been problems with losing coolant too, after a 40 mile cruise with the local car guys, i have to go WOT most of the time as it is a 4 speed 1.5 liter that barely runs anyways, but now coolant streams out uncontrollably in foam form now hahaha, cars are fun <8- D
 
blargonator
my eyes teared up from laughing so much Kurtis <8- D reminds me of my civic (recently added) it was in the red temperature wise, and the last turn from my house i heard a massive pop.
actually now i have been problems with losing coolant too, after a 40 mile cruise with the local car guys, i have to go WOT most of the time as it is a 4 speed 1.5 liter that barely runs anyways, but now coolant streams out uncontrollably in foam form now hahaha, cars are fun <8- D

That's a head gasket. As such, there is water/coolant in the engine and that is reducing power. The same thing happened with me and the Turbo Thunderbird. It must've overheated/overboosted (TURBO) or both at the same time. There was so much lag off the line, it took 10 seconds to get from 0-30 mph at MODERATE throttle -- and the turbo was making strange noises (like it was filled with water or something? :dopey: )... so yeah... that's a head gasket.
 
Little update... got the new tape player head unit, it works good, the color matches at night too :dopey: but only the front speakers work for some reason. :grumpy:
 
VIPFREAK
Little update... got the new tape player head unit, it works good, the color matches at night too :dopey: but only the front speakers work for some reason. :grumpy:

At least some speakers work. I went for MONTHS without ANY radio in the T-Bird. The Volvo has a decent stereo for a car made out of the 1980s. Still waiting on the boost controller, though. If it's not here by next week, I'm calling the FBI. :grumpy:
 
Thanks Blargonator, despite it's immense crapness I still miss it. Every journey was an adventure. Would you make it, or end up in a garage somewhere in the country trying to get a Volkwagen fan belt to fit it.

Also, you reminded me of another thing that happened to it, I can't remember how long he'd had it when it happened, but he was checking something out under the bonnet, slammed it shut and the middle of the radiator fell out under the car.

I'd had a few Kronenbourgs by then so, obviously, to me this was the funniest thing in the world. Ever. I laughed so much I couldn't breathe and beer came out of my nose. Phil did not share in my hilarity.

Everyone should own a crappy car at least once over a winter. It makes you appreciate a heater, stereo, a smooth drive, rain wipers and windows that work in ways that most people will never know.


Kurtis.
 
guh, i feel your pain mkrtmkr about not having a radio. it sucks...at first i was like "yeah, who needs music, i have the sweet tune of that 1.5 liter struggling". 40 minutes later i realized how uncomfortable i truly was.
about the head gasket, are there any simple ways of making sure that is the problem?
that was actually my first guess as i slowly rolled down the hill in the pouring rain.
it has always leaked oil out of basically anything where it is possible.
i even wasted the time of using some simple green and cleaning up the engine bay to hopefully figure out which gasket was the culprit <8- P

but.....yesterday as i was backing in (our driveway is very very steep and only wide enough for one car) and at the bottom it kind of gets wider and we pushed my brother's wrecked DSM there so is not much room left, i set a chock down that i try and hit and i park there, instead i bumped into my spare engine.
 
blargonator
guh, i feel your pain mkrtmkr about not having a radio.

I actually got used to it... I had to "train" myself to turn on the radio when I got into the car when I first bought the Volvo whose exhaust has now fallen off thanks to 17 years of extreme heat and pressure thanks to the turbocharger that's only pushing 7 pounds of boost because I don't have my boost controller that should be on its way though I'm not entirely certain. :dopey:

Still, at least the car is still drivable! And it sounds sportier too! :sly:

about the head gasket, are there any simple ways of making sure that is the problem?

When my head gasket went, all of the coolant leaked out of the car and overheated... quickly. Also, because of the coolant INSIDE the engine, the car ran CONSIDERABLY slower than normal. 0-30 took about 7 seconds as opposed to 2.5. Merging from 55-65 mph required full throttle (even with kickdown and turbocharger boost) it still took longer than normal. Other than that, I'm not sure.

it has always leaked oil out of basically anything where it is possible.
i even wasted the time of using some simple green and cleaning up the engine bay to hopefully figure out which gasket was the culprit <8- P

The oil pressure gauge went crazy as well not that you've mentioned it.

but.....yesterday as i was backing in (our driveway is very very steep and only wide enough for one car) and at the bottom it kind of gets wider and we pushed my brother's wrecked DSM there so is not much room left, i set a chock down that i try and hit and i park there, instead i bumped into my spare engine.

:ouch:

VIPFREAK
Just for the hell of it... here's what my car USED to look like. :grumpy:


Nice!
 
Ok, hopefully this is a shoe-in.

I am the second owner of a mismatched-two-tone fugly blue sexually abused 199? Oldsmobile Cutlass Cierra. The first owner died, of what I can only presume to be embarrassment. Driving this car makes me appreciate my horse and wagon.

Here's the rundown:

- Headlights never turn off, even after the key is pulled. I just pull the fuse.
- My former boss, a psycho bat, backed into my car and crushed the front right turn signal. I left it hanging like a dismembered eyeball until I got pulled over. Promptly fastened it in place with duct tape. It still works. The good one on the left, however does not.
- Power windows are powerless. It takes 30 seconds to raise halfway up before stalling out the car.
-Power locks (lock?) works only on front doors and then half of the time only the driver's side unlocks. Pretty useless since neither front door opens from the inside anymore. Exit options are as follows:
(A) Roll down window and open door from outside. Then try getting the damn thing to roll back up again.
(B) Leave window down and jump in and out like the Dukes of Hazzard. (Hazzard Orange paint job might be an improvement)
(C) Crawl into backseat and exit thru left door only. Can't go out right rear door because it's permanently locked for sum reason. No outside keyhole either.
(D) Bust windshield and crawl out. Tempting and easy given the spiderweb of cracks.

-Last time I had it serviced (a front end alignment!?!) the mechanic found it necessary to screw with the temperature sensor resulting in the radiator fan refusing to run until the car is shut off, then running until battery is dead. Fixed this by pulling the fuse so the fan doesn't run at all.
This dramatically improved the gas mileage. It also necessitates running the heater full blast while sitting in traffic and sumtimes just turning off the vehicle and waiting.

- I let the fan belt go for a year and a half past when I should have replaced it. By then it had split down the center nearly the whole length and then finally broke on one side. This side got flung around at high speed for several miles and tore off a 16 inch swath of insulation from under the hood, which I found very funny.

- I got the front end caught on a cement curb block and backed away leaving my license plate behind. Keep it in the passenger seat. Been pulled over twice. Tell them it just happened, gonna replace it when I get back home.

- The tranny slips and revs high everytime I brake, taking forever to climb back into the higher gears so I can go 0-60 in about 3.5 minutes.

- The front right brake once locked up on me while on route to the company potluck. Consequently there's a huge chili stain across the front passenger side floor.

- It's been pulling double duty as a farm vehicle as of late and I forgot that I left a load of black walnuts on the floor in back until it started smelling musty. They had started to ferment and left a deep dark stain on the carpet, looking like sumone squatted and took a good sized crap on the floor.

-The engine is still capable of reaching the 120 mph mark but given the time it requires, u'd need an airport runway and drag chutes to get there. The tires keep breaking belts too, and give the whole car a major shaking above 120, so I wouldn't try it. My last vehicle was a Safari van that had no problems until it inexplicably broke a tire belt one day and the tire blew at 60 on the hwy, tore the wheel clean off the axle, brake drum and all, flipped the van a few times and didn't do much for my health either. Collapsed a lung, broke plenty of ribs, etc

Lemme Know if I get in.....
 
Oh yeah! All you have to say is Oldsmobile Cutless... and your in! :lol:

My parents had one before... I still haven't forgiven them for that. :grumpy:
 
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