C.R.A.P GT300 Endurance Series - Heavy Damage, ABS1 Only
- Thread starter HP
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- 836
- London
- Gadget333
I couldn't agree more. I wasn't involved (apart from the first lap) in the epic battle between HP and David up front, but the action behind was no less frantic with constant swapping of the minor positions.
Having qualified on full wets in 80% track humidity, and noted that the track was drying during the session, I opted to start on RM tyres, anticipating a difficult first couple of laps but ultimately expecting the track to come to me. At the start of the race the track had already dried to 53% so I thought I was being smart. Looking at the replay, I was the only one on RM, everyone else was on intermediate tyres.
What actually happened was the rain started again and by the end of the first lap the track humidity was back up to 83%. I had no choice other than to stop for tyres and followed HP into the pits, who had made the decision to swap his inters for Full Wets. This dropped us from 3rd and 4th (just behind leader i-was-ere and David_165) down to 5th and 6th respectively as the only stoppers on Lap 1.
By halfway around lap 2 the track humidity was maxed out at 100%. With steady use of thje throttle and smooth braking the Inters seemed to be performaing pretty well in these atrocious conditions (it was still dark as well by the way) and meant you really had to keep your wits about you.
At the end of lap 2, i-was ere and Rosenlundaren both pitted to repair damage, and Blitzweerlig (aka WIDFO) also dived into the pits. All three switched to Full Wets. Order at this stage was Davidb_165, HP, i-was-ere, Gadget334, Blitzweerlig and Rosendlundaren. All were not on Wets apart from Davidb and myself (both on Inters).
I was i-was-ere for 3rd half way around the lap after he'd had a big off and sustained serious corner and engine damage.
The next couple of laps I had a great battle with WIDFO who had caught me while I was biding my time for a safe pass on damaged i-was-ere, and now I couldn't shake him off. A mini excursion into the kitty litter in on the GP circuit loop (no damage) lewt him close right up on me and next lap on the GP loop I made an error and oversteered off onto the grass, picking up a little damage to one corner, but nothing that would slow me down too much. That dropped me to 4th with a hard charging i-was-ere now in hot pursuit.
By now (lap 6) the rain had eased and the track had dried to 87% humidity, and we had daylight. Up front HP was still chasing David hard, but despite David having some slight damage, the his lead was still 36 seconds, and only dropping but a few seconds per lap.
Gotta stop for lunch....will review the replay more and report more later in Part 2
Having qualified on full wets in 80% track humidity, and noted that the track was drying during the session, I opted to start on RM tyres, anticipating a difficult first couple of laps but ultimately expecting the track to come to me. At the start of the race the track had already dried to 53% so I thought I was being smart. Looking at the replay, I was the only one on RM, everyone else was on intermediate tyres.
What actually happened was the rain started again and by the end of the first lap the track humidity was back up to 83%. I had no choice other than to stop for tyres and followed HP into the pits, who had made the decision to swap his inters for Full Wets. This dropped us from 3rd and 4th (just behind leader i-was-ere and David_165) down to 5th and 6th respectively as the only stoppers on Lap 1.
By halfway around lap 2 the track humidity was maxed out at 100%. With steady use of thje throttle and smooth braking the Inters seemed to be performaing pretty well in these atrocious conditions (it was still dark as well by the way) and meant you really had to keep your wits about you.
At the end of lap 2, i-was ere and Rosenlundaren both pitted to repair damage, and Blitzweerlig (aka WIDFO) also dived into the pits. All three switched to Full Wets. Order at this stage was Davidb_165, HP, i-was-ere, Gadget334, Blitzweerlig and Rosendlundaren. All were not on Wets apart from Davidb and myself (both on Inters).
I was i-was-ere for 3rd half way around the lap after he'd had a big off and sustained serious corner and engine damage.
The next couple of laps I had a great battle with WIDFO who had caught me while I was biding my time for a safe pass on damaged i-was-ere, and now I couldn't shake him off. A mini excursion into the kitty litter in on the GP circuit loop (no damage) lewt him close right up on me and next lap on the GP loop I made an error and oversteered off onto the grass, picking up a little damage to one corner, but nothing that would slow me down too much. That dropped me to 4th with a hard charging i-was-ere now in hot pursuit.
By now (lap 6) the rain had eased and the track had dried to 87% humidity, and we had daylight. Up front HP was still chasing David hard, but despite David having some slight damage, the his lead was still 36 seconds, and only dropping but a few seconds per lap.
Gotta stop for lunch....will review the replay more and report more later in Part 2
- 836
- London
- Gadget333
HP is away next week so unable to organise the weekly practise, so asked me to step in and take on the responsibility of setting up the room and running the session as he normally does. Happy to do this, so please can anyone expecting to join in ensure they are on my PSN Friends list so you can follow me into (MY) Race lounge. I think most of the regulars are already Friends. Just to confirm my PSN ID is 'Gadget334'.
HP....a question for you. I think the diversity of weather and daylight/night was a real hit last night, so please can you confirm the setting you used to achieve that. I will not replicate completely, probably opting to do the reverse and start dry/daylight and finish wet/night, but I'd like to know your sliders settings please.
HP....a question for you. I think the diversity of weather and daylight/night was a real hit last night, so please can you confirm the setting you used to achieve that. I will not replicate completely, probably opting to do the reverse and start dry/daylight and finish wet/night, but I'd like to know your sliders settings please.
- 836
- London
- Gadget333
Best Laps when Track at 100% Humidity (end Lap 3)
9:43.639 Davidb_165
9:44.333 Heathenpride
10:15.076 i-was-ere
10:21.083 Gadget334
10:21.433 Blitzweerlig
11:12.222 Rosenlundaren
Best Laps when track at 80% humidity (end Lap 6)
9:31.752 Heathenpride
9:32.359 Davidb_165
9:48.956 Gadget334
9:53.206 Blitzweerlig
9:55.205 i-was-ere
10:05.533 Rosenlundaren
Best Laps Overall when track at 0% humidity (end Lap 12)
8:32.329 Heathenpride
8:36.877 Gadget334
8:46.456 Blitzweerlig
8:57.267 Davidb_165
9:07.319 i-was-ere
9:09.534 Rosenlundaren
Only the first 2 cars completed the 13th and final lap before the results timed out so HP and Davids last lap times not included in these results. Hope this proves interesting reading
- 8,168
- Hindmarsh Island
- TDZ-4-12-14-88
- XBOX_is_GAY!!!!
ok cool, thank's, cover's all the major point's in weather change, gives me something to aim for as the track dries out,
I'm glad to see I'm around the mark of within 5 or less of HP and Dave in 100% track water, big confidence boost for me
I'm glad to see I'm around the mark of within 5 or less of HP and Dave in 100% track water, big confidence boost for me
- 836
- London
- Gadget333
OK, continuing my Race Report, we were up to Lap 7. Running order was:-
David, HP, Blitz, Gadget, i-was and Rosen. With the track now at 73% and drying, HP dives into pits to swap Wets for Inters. David stays out, still lwith a slightly damaged car, and still on the same inters he started the race on.
Halfway around lap 7 I make a mistake and make heavy contact with armco, leaving damage to both front corners AND engine damage. I limp back to the pits and pull onot the grass to allow i-was-ere to safely pass, moving him up to 4th.
At the end of Lap 7, Blitz pits and refuels, as does i-was, but i-was takes on less fuel and jumps Blitz in the pitlane. This short fill would end up costing i-was dearly later in the race. i-was changes to Inters (track now at 66%) and Blitz makes an early move onto RM tyres. I also pitted to fix damage, and also make the move to RM, probably a lap earlier than I'd have liked, but the damage dictated that. Immediately I find it still very greasy for RM's and almost go into the kitty litter at the first corner. Blitz had made exactly the same mistake only a bit worse, probably finding the change from full wets to RM quite a shock. He manages to find the grass and gravel 2 more times before leaving the GP circuit, and on that third excursion I manage to slip past and back into 4th. Although I was finding it slippery, I'd only changed from Inters to RM's, so the difference wasn't as great as Blitz was finding going from Wets to RM's.
At the end of Lap 8, HP's stop the previous lap had meant David's lead was out to 1:09, and HP had only managed to close 5 seconds on David the previous lap. Blitz had to pit again to fix the damage from multiple offs, but elected to stay on RM's as track was now dried out to 49% humidity. The new rubber didn't stop him making another (damageless) couple of excursions in the kitty litter on in the GP loop. This had allowed Rosenlundaren (now also on RM's) to close to within 10 seconds of Blitz until he got dialled in and then managed to start to pull away again.
At the end of Lap 9 the leader stopped for fuel and a new set of Inters. This stop cut his lead to just 16 seconds. The following Lap HP made his move and pitted to take on a set of RM, and a splash of fuel, emerging about 45secs behind David. Within half a lap he started to really make use of those tyres on the rapidly drying track, and was taking a second or more PER SECTOR out of David ever less comfortable gap. Meanwhile i-was-ere was driving a very bent car but still manage decent pace on his Inters.....until half way around the lap he ran out of fuel meaning a very slow chug back to the pits, and allowing me to close in and make the pass as he was refuelling.
At the end of Lap 11 David, seeing how quickly HP was catching him was forced to stop and change to RM's too. He emerged from the pits just 10 secs in front of HP, and within a few kms, HP was right on David's bumper, with a lap and a half to go. Race on!
Meanwhile, 5 mins back down the road I was running 3rd, and pleasingly on the pace of the leaders as they battled for victory. i-was-ere was about 25 seconds behind me with Blitz a similar distance behind i-was and Rosen a little further back.
On the back straight of the penultimate lap HP drafts past David to wrestle from him the lead which he'd held majestically for 10 laps. On the 13th and final lap HP quickly pulled about 4 seconds and was looking set for a win. But then, as he was pushing hard to ensure a gap before the back straight he makes a mistake and picks up light offside damage to his GTR. David closes up and as they go onto the final long straight is an ideal 10 car lengths behind to execute a perfect draft pass as they crest the hill under the Bilstien Bridge side by side, then holds it together at the last chicane to take a well deserved win after a truly epic race. Can't wait until next weeks already!
David, HP, Blitz, Gadget, i-was and Rosen. With the track now at 73% and drying, HP dives into pits to swap Wets for Inters. David stays out, still lwith a slightly damaged car, and still on the same inters he started the race on.
Halfway around lap 7 I make a mistake and make heavy contact with armco, leaving damage to both front corners AND engine damage. I limp back to the pits and pull onot the grass to allow i-was-ere to safely pass, moving him up to 4th.
At the end of Lap 7, Blitz pits and refuels, as does i-was, but i-was takes on less fuel and jumps Blitz in the pitlane. This short fill would end up costing i-was dearly later in the race. i-was changes to Inters (track now at 66%) and Blitz makes an early move onto RM tyres. I also pitted to fix damage, and also make the move to RM, probably a lap earlier than I'd have liked, but the damage dictated that. Immediately I find it still very greasy for RM's and almost go into the kitty litter at the first corner. Blitz had made exactly the same mistake only a bit worse, probably finding the change from full wets to RM quite a shock. He manages to find the grass and gravel 2 more times before leaving the GP circuit, and on that third excursion I manage to slip past and back into 4th. Although I was finding it slippery, I'd only changed from Inters to RM's, so the difference wasn't as great as Blitz was finding going from Wets to RM's.
At the end of Lap 8, HP's stop the previous lap had meant David's lead was out to 1:09, and HP had only managed to close 5 seconds on David the previous lap. Blitz had to pit again to fix the damage from multiple offs, but elected to stay on RM's as track was now dried out to 49% humidity. The new rubber didn't stop him making another (damageless) couple of excursions in the kitty litter on in the GP loop. This had allowed Rosenlundaren (now also on RM's) to close to within 10 seconds of Blitz until he got dialled in and then managed to start to pull away again.
At the end of Lap 9 the leader stopped for fuel and a new set of Inters. This stop cut his lead to just 16 seconds. The following Lap HP made his move and pitted to take on a set of RM, and a splash of fuel, emerging about 45secs behind David. Within half a lap he started to really make use of those tyres on the rapidly drying track, and was taking a second or more PER SECTOR out of David ever less comfortable gap. Meanwhile i-was-ere was driving a very bent car but still manage decent pace on his Inters.....until half way around the lap he ran out of fuel meaning a very slow chug back to the pits, and allowing me to close in and make the pass as he was refuelling.
At the end of Lap 11 David, seeing how quickly HP was catching him was forced to stop and change to RM's too. He emerged from the pits just 10 secs in front of HP, and within a few kms, HP was right on David's bumper, with a lap and a half to go. Race on!
Meanwhile, 5 mins back down the road I was running 3rd, and pleasingly on the pace of the leaders as they battled for victory. i-was-ere was about 25 seconds behind me with Blitz a similar distance behind i-was and Rosen a little further back.
On the back straight of the penultimate lap HP drafts past David to wrestle from him the lead which he'd held majestically for 10 laps. On the 13th and final lap HP quickly pulled about 4 seconds and was looking set for a win. But then, as he was pushing hard to ensure a gap before the back straight he makes a mistake and picks up light offside damage to his GTR. David closes up and as they go onto the final long straight is an ideal 10 car lengths behind to execute a perfect draft pass as they crest the hill under the Bilstien Bridge side by side, then holds it together at the last chicane to take a well deserved win after a truly epic race. Can't wait until next weeks already!
- 300
- Sweden
- RosenlundarenSWE
Gadget: Execellent writeup! Thank you, it puts another dimension to the race. 👍 
I can't do the next race, but I'm looking forward to the next after that.
I can't do the next race, but I'm looking forward to the next after that.
- 111
- Quebec
- KurtKrDu
I would have loved to race with you guys, but I had the Ring Bandits to qualify for the 24hr. Sadly, they won't be able to make the 24hr race, due to them accepting an offer they couldn't refuse.
And as we aren't allowed a thread for the 24hr event in GTP because we charge entry fees, it's very hard to find new teams...
And as we aren't allowed a thread for the 24hr event in GTP because we charge entry fees, it's very hard to find new teams...
- 385
- Hawkes Bay
- davidb_165
Guys, here are some pics from the first two laps of our race on Sunday in the dark and wet
Forming up:
HP leads us out:
Myself behind Iwas (2nd and 3rd). It's pretty wet
4 cars on the Karussel (HP, Iwas, David, Gadget):
Meanwhile Rosen runs wide letting Widfo through:
HP runs wide letting Iwas through:
It also lets myself and Gadget catch up:
On the back straight I pass HP, Gadget close behind. Widfo in the background:
HP and Gadget pit at end of lap 1. Iwas and David carry on moving into P1 and P2
Widfo passes HP and Gadget to move to 3rd:
Likewise Rosen for 4th:
Rosen dealing with the rain:
HP catches Rosen to take back 4th:
Gadget does the same:
HP now chasing Widfo for 3rd:
Up front Iwas spins and passes the lead to me:
It's only 2 laps but still worth putting up.
Forming up:
HP leads us out:
Myself behind Iwas (2nd and 3rd). It's pretty wet
4 cars on the Karussel (HP, Iwas, David, Gadget):
Meanwhile Rosen runs wide letting Widfo through:
HP runs wide letting Iwas through:
It also lets myself and Gadget catch up:
On the back straight I pass HP, Gadget close behind. Widfo in the background:
HP and Gadget pit at end of lap 1. Iwas and David carry on moving into P1 and P2
Widfo passes HP and Gadget to move to 3rd:
Likewise Rosen for 4th:
Rosen dealing with the rain:
HP catches Rosen to take back 4th:
Gadget does the same:
HP now chasing Widfo for 3rd:
Up front Iwas spins and passes the lead to me:
It's only 2 laps but still worth putting up.
- 300
- Sweden
- RosenlundarenSWE
Thanks for the pictures, David! 👍
- 836
- London
- Gadget333
Yes, brilliant collection of photos, and when linked with my write up it completes the story of last weekends race.
Just a reminder that we will be running something similar this Saturday night (Europe) Sunday Morning (Oz). Here is a nice countdown marker to the event start time. The room will be open before 2130 GMT, so we can start qually at 2130
So far I think my 3 24hr race teamates (Tema Motion Blur) Geth_D, Atil_Ali and i-was-ere should be there. Cobani said he was in too. Who else would like to take part in what could be another classic test of skill and concentration.
Just a reminder that we will be running something similar this Saturday night (Europe) Sunday Morning (Oz). Here is a nice countdown marker to the event start time. The room will be open before 2130 GMT, so we can start qually at 2130
So far I think my 3 24hr race teamates (Tema Motion Blur) Geth_D, Atil_Ali and i-was-ere should be there. Cobani said he was in too. Who else would like to take part in what could be another classic test of skill and concentration.
- 8,168
- Hindmarsh Island
- TDZ-4-12-14-88
- XBOX_is_GAY!!!!
Depends on my connection, a boat hit the underwater cable that links me to the rest of the world, my connection is scratchy at best, and I can only be in my online lobby by myself as soon as someone joins I get booted off from PSN, hopefully its all fixed by tomorrow if not friday at the latest, if its not then I will have to miss out,
- 385
- Hawkes Bay
- davidb_165
I am hoping to be there
- 836
- London
- Gadget333
Davidb_165 inspired me to do a few pics of my own of last weekends race. Enjoy
HP on Pole
Rolling start in the wet and dark gloom
Gadget passing Rosenlundaren on lap 2 after dropping back for a lap 1 pitstop. Track now 100% wet.
Penultimate lap dice, David holding off a hard charging HP, who would take the lead on the long back straight.
A mistake by Blitzweerlig allows Gadget bck up into 4th, shortly to become 3rd after passing i-was-ere while he is in the pits for fuel
Last lap pass, David re takes the lead from HP half a kilometer from the flag.
After almost 2 hours racing davidb_165 wins by 0.33 seconds
So who's up for more of the same this weekend?
HP on Pole
Rolling start in the wet and dark gloom
Gadget passing Rosenlundaren on lap 2 after dropping back for a lap 1 pitstop. Track now 100% wet.
Penultimate lap dice, David holding off a hard charging HP, who would take the lead on the long back straight.
A mistake by Blitzweerlig allows Gadget bck up into 4th, shortly to become 3rd after passing i-was-ere while he is in the pits for fuel
Last lap pass, David re takes the lead from HP half a kilometer from the flag.
After almost 2 hours racing davidb_165 wins by 0.33 seconds
So who's up for more of the same this weekend?
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- 836
- London
- Gadget333
ok all is looking good for me to be there so far, depending on weather and time change setting I may drive a different car, only if its dry
Great, look forward to seeing you there. Just check I am on your freinds list in case for some reason I have to host in My Private Lounge rather than the Crap Enduro room.
Oh, and regarding it being dry? I've seen the forecast. I'd suggest wellies and a Cagoule!!
- 8,168
- Hindmarsh Island
- TDZ-4-12-14-88
- XBOX_is_GAY!!!!
hence why I'm suggesting public room's, Iwas/ Widfo and my self have internet connection's that don't want to interact with each other, I think it has something to with network traffic, most times myself and Widfo cant join a room in either lounge,
But I will shoot you an FR today sometime, if we struggle we can always fall back on a public room,
But I will shoot you an FR today sometime, if we struggle we can always fall back on a public room,
