Cappuccino Cup Racing (RM) - SEASON 1 COMPLETE!
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- Sio-Xie
I basically started with the RKM tune that is (was?) in the OP, then made the ARB's stiffer because I noticed too much body roll. I may also have tweaked the brakes more to my liking (5/6 I believe). Otherwise suspension settings in that one are pretty spot on.
If you're trying to find the right LSD settings on your own I recommend starting out at 5/5/5, getting a feel for the car, then bump your initial up to about 10, retest, dial in the initial (I usually end up bumping up the initial another point or 2 here). At this point you the LSD should be feeling about right, and you'll just need to tweak the accel/decel values until things are feeling just right.
That's my quick and dirty method. Works like 90% of the time...
will keep this in mind..... 👍
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- BrandonW77
Hey man, great to see ya! I've added you and Endless-Wilso to the registration list. We have quite a large group together, ready to do some racing! I sure hope we get to meet up on track soon, this whole PSN outage has become rather depressing.
Yesterday I turned on GT5 and just stared at the menu screen trying to figure out what to do. I ended up doing Hot Cappuccino Laps around Tsukuba and was able to set a new best time of 1:03.616. I'm sure with some tuning I could get under 1:02, but once we're online that will all be different so I haven't messed with the setup much. I think we're all gonna be very tired of Tsukuba by the time we have our first race! lol
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- Johnnypenso
My guess is that offline with Sports Softs, the low 1:02's is the limit of this car but I could be wrong. I read something on the CBC News site today that Sony is thinking end of May to be back online with PSN. I don't think anyone really knows, but it's hard to believe it could take this long to get things back up and running.
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- Johnnypenso
I have used the DFGT since I bought the game. Only thing I use a DS3 for is drifting and that's just for fun, I'm not a great drifter that's for sure. So I thought I'd give my tune I posted earlier a spin on the DS3 just to see what it was like since PSN won't likely be back online until June 2014.
I chose automatic transmission at first, top speed 200 km/h and noticed it was shifting near the redline. I ran about 10 laps and couldn't get below 1:04. The car cornered ok, but felt slow.
I then switched to manual, using L1 and L2 as up and downshift respectively, R2 as throttle and square button as brake, with sensitivity set at 6, and would brake hard into a corner, get it set on the right line, glide through the apex and then power down as soon as possible. I managed to get down to a 1:02.6 with the DS3
With this car, automatic transmission will cost you precious time. I don't believe you can run auto and be competitive. Take a look at the power/torque curve. I shift at around 8000 rpm and never get to the redline, except perhaps downshifting into a corner. Max power is definitly below that. I found also that because I run first and second gear very tall, that is, the slider all the way to the left, you can use 1st gear in the second and third hairpin with the manual transmission, to "pull" the car back towards the apex, making for a sharper turn. Gliding through in second will work, but you won't be able to turn as sharply as you do in first gear, power off.
Just a couple of tips for DS3 users to pass the time. Probably all moot until it's tested online once again.
I chose automatic transmission at first, top speed 200 km/h and noticed it was shifting near the redline. I ran about 10 laps and couldn't get below 1:04. The car cornered ok, but felt slow.
I then switched to manual, using L1 and L2 as up and downshift respectively, R2 as throttle and square button as brake, with sensitivity set at 6, and would brake hard into a corner, get it set on the right line, glide through the apex and then power down as soon as possible. I managed to get down to a 1:02.6 with the DS3
With this car, automatic transmission will cost you precious time. I don't believe you can run auto and be competitive. Take a look at the power/torque curve. I shift at around 8000 rpm and never get to the redline, except perhaps downshifting into a corner. Max power is definitly below that. I found also that because I run first and second gear very tall, that is, the slider all the way to the left, you can use 1st gear in the second and third hairpin with the manual transmission, to "pull" the car back towards the apex, making for a sharper turn. Gliding through in second will work, but you won't be able to turn as sharply as you do in first gear, power off.
Just a couple of tips for DS3 users to pass the time. Probably all moot until it's tested online once again.
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- GTP_SohnVonStig
Was wondering when someone was going to post this up
Personally, I was shifting at 6500 rpm. Never even get CLOSE to redline. Didn't mess around with it too much but I imagine that 7 or 7.5 is probably the "sweetspot"
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- Blind829
Was wondering when someone was going to post this up
I want to say I was right around 7, but it's been a week or so since I've fired it up. But yes, far from the redline is key with this car.
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- MindlessRiff
I'll have to give manual a shot then! I've always used auto, tried manual a few times but never stuck with it long enough to get used to it. Should be easier in these cars because theres not as much to think about when you're doing 90 instead of 190 lol ;P
If it really gives you that much time then maybe I can do a 1:02.xxx! 💡
If it really gives you that much time then maybe I can do a 1:02.xxx! 💡
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- Johnnypenso
One of the many drawbacks to the "greatest racing sim ever made" is that you can't choose where you want your automatic to shift, as you think you might be able to do with a full racing transmission. So every auto shifts the same way, up to the redline, then drop up a gear. In a lot of cars that will work, because they carry hp and torque almost to the red line. With this car it doesn't work because hp and torque drop off well below that.
My hat is off to anyone that uses a DS3 though. An hour spent with that, trying to manage trail braking, shifting, turning and throttle modulation with my fingers was quite a challenge and anyone that can be consistent doing that should be congratulated...lol.
My hat is off to anyone that uses a DS3 though. An hour spent with that, trying to manage trail braking, shifting, turning and throttle modulation with my fingers was quite a challenge and anyone that can be consistent doing that should be congratulated...lol.
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- OwensRacing
Johnnypenso
The controller steers for the user. Notice how it full lock at 100 is far different then 30. This is a built in aid, so truly DS3's should have an advantage in steering angle relative to speed. Granted throttle and brake as well shifting is much easier on a wheel. I don't feel the steering side is an advantage over the ds3.
Also shifting before REDLINE is key to good lap times. I dropped a full second from shifting before REDLINE vs running to the REDLINE. And damn this iPhone capitalizing REDLINE. Ugggh
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- MindlessRiff
You can go from lock to lock faster on a pad but I'd imagine you get much less precision with it as well unless you have a steady thumb lol. I don't know what this full lock 100 aid thing is unless you're talking about the controller itself. I have pretty much no wheel experience LOL
Also, if you think it's hard trying to drive these cars with a DS3 try Group C cars at the Nurburgring!
Also, if you think it's hard trying to drive these cars with a DS3 try Group C cars at the Nurburgring!
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- OwensRacing
MindlessRiffYou can go from lock to lock faster on a pad but I'd imagine you get much less precision with it as well unless you have a steady thumb lol. I don't know what this full lock 100 aid thing is unless you're talking about the controller itself. I have pretty much no wheel experience LOL
Also, if you think it's hard trying to drive these cars with a DS3 try Group C cars at the Nurburgring!
Basically with the wheel. The angle you input is what you get.
With the controller. Say at 10mph you get 25degrees at full steering input. Now at 100 mph you will only see 15degrees of steering at full input. So the DS3 has a speed sensitivity built in. Which is kinda an aid. No biggie because the lack of throttle and brake precision negates the advantage of tue steering. Just a notable thing. Also the steering adjustment that was added gives you more control of this with the DS3
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- MindlessRiff
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- Mudd
I was aware that the Capp liked shifting before redline, but didn't realize it REALLY liked shifting WAY before the redline...so thanks for sharing, it helped a bit. New personal best: 1:03.456 Thanks!
Oops, had to edit. Two tenths the very next lap!
Oops, had to edit. Two tenths the very next lap!
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- MrWilso92
BTW my car #90 matte dark red / gold chrome wheels
- 28,470
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- Johnnypenso
I knew there was something amiss when I kept seeing all those 1:04 and 1:05 times...lol. Give, give, give that's all I do...lol.
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- Sio-Xie
Manual trans for me then...... try it later! thanks for the tip!
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- BrandonW77
I usually shift between 7,500 and 8,000 rpm. If I let it go past 8k I can feel the power drop away pretty quickly. What gearing are you guys using? I hit 5th gear at towards the end of the backstretch but everywhere else I'm 4th gear or under. Well, occasionally I've hit 5th right before the 3rd hairpin but usually keep it in 4th. I might change my gearing for the online physics though, I usually prefer less shifting and will sometimes tune top gear out of the equation on shorter tracks like this.
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- Johnnypenso
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- OwensRacing
You guys battle it out. Hopefully I can sneak by or sneak away. me loves when two cars battle for position lap after lap. Well as long as it's not me in that battle.
me loves when two cars battle for position lap after lap. Well as long as it's not me in that battle.
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- Johnnypenso
I posted earlier I have my transmission set to 230 km/h. I set first and second slider all the way to the left and space out 3 and 4 evenly. I do pretty much the same thing with all cars. I think with drafting you might have to go higher on some tracks but you can't draft much at Tsukuba with these cars.
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- Johnnypenso
You know it's funny...the first year they passed it, you had a couple here or there but since then pretty much nothing. Was a big deal over nothing really. Get a few peelers out on top of one of the nudie bars once in a while but that's about it. We're pretty blase' about stuff like that up here...lol.
I better stay on topic or someone will shut down this thread...lol.
GT5 is awesome!!!!
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