Cappuccino Cup Racing (RM) - SEASON 1 COMPLETE!

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Sohnvonstig said

edit: btw on the sound - that car's gutteral roar at low rpm is probably my favorite sound in the game :P and to think coming out of something with 133 hp :P

The ford gt40 '69 has in my opinion the best sounding engine in the game, a real throaty rumble, sounds so good with the subwoofers on. And its a turbo!
 
Waznz
The ford gt40 '69 has in my opinion the best sounding engine in the game, a real throaty rumble, sounds so good with the subwoofers on. And its a turbo!
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I passed up on buying one today...maybe I'll reconsider :dopey:

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My first online laps with the car at Tsukuba, I got a 1:04.073 with a car that was very loose on exit.
 
Did some runs in the Capp online today, didn't really feel out of control like everyone seems to have said so far, just a little bit oversteery, haven't even tuned it online yet lol, did about 10 laps at Tsukuba at 1:04.6xx average or thereabouts, can probably go a bit faster maybe, dunno.

Just a heads up, wont be competing in the first Tuesday race as I have an exam the next day haha, so, provided you're starting this week I'll miss the first one, should be sound for the Saturday though.
 
At least with the tune in the op, the capp is VERY predictable online. It understeers on the way into a corner if you're going to fast and if you accelerate a half a second too early the back end comes out gradually. No snap. No surprises. :) I like it :dopey:
 
Topban, sorry to hear that. You're welcome to pop in anytime for some fun racing. 👍

I think we should be ready to officially start this Tuesday if everyone else is ready. I think the only question mark we have is the qualifying. We did a test on Saturday and it did line us up in the proper order but some drivers ran into traffic during their qualifying run and that's something we're trying to avoid so everyone gets a clean run. So the options are to send drivers out in groups of 5 at 15-20 second staggered intervals so there is plenty of space between cars, or we send everybody out at once and leave it up to the drivers to keep plenty of room between themselves so everyone can get a clean lap. The second option is the easiest to setup/police but it's also the most likely to lead to traffic on track.

My main goal is for qualifying to be fairly quick and easy, since I will be having at least one alternate host I need to make sure it's easy for him to understand and implement. My concern with sending people out in groups is that it creates more work for the alternate host(s) and is also very dependent on the drivers following instructions.

In every league I've been in that tried to use a certain qualifying method that required drivers to stay in the pits at certain times, there was always somebody that would go out on track and we'd have to restart everything. Sending drivers out in groups of 5 while others are required to stay in the pits just opens the door wide open for that kind of thing. I know there has to be a simple way to make this work, but right now it's eluding me.

Mule, since you're going to be involved in hosting and controlling qualifying, what are your opinions? One thing we did in a previous league was start the field in reverse order of championship points (driver who finished last starts on pole for next race), so after the first round is complete we wouldn't even have to do qualifying, we'd just do a manual line up according to the points and start the race from there. It worked out great and produced some very balanced and fun racing.

I plan on having a room open for practice this evening around 5pm EDT, can probably have it open for a couple hours. Maybe we can experiment with some different qualifying techniques and see if anything else works better. I'm open to suggestions as long as they're quick and simple.


Brandon
 
I want to be in for Tuesday. . .

Brandon. when you open the room I will try and be there to help testing.
 
Personally, I don't like the reverse points qualification method just because if the racers are relatively close in speed the races would have to be very long for the fastest drivers to actually navigate through the traffic. I mean, yes it would provide for a tight points championship, but odds are the fastest driver wouldn't actually win....

Oh and I'll definitely be there tonight, I might be a bit late (read 9pm EST) but I'd definitely like to help out and drive these cars some more :)
 
SohnVonStig
I mean, yes it would provide for a tight points championship, but odds are the fastest driver wouldn't actually win....
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That was actually kinda the point, to keep the points and the races very close and prevent the same person from walking away with the win every week. We could use the same method but line up according to points with the point leader on pole instead. In my experience though that leads to the same 1 or 2 people winning every week while everybody else gets bored and quits.

Personally, I've never had a problem with just doing a free run 10 minute qualifying session. As long as the track is "reset" first and everyone is courteous on track everything works fine. But it seemed to be a very unpopular method amongst the group so I've tried to figure out a way around it.

For what it's worth, once the session begins the game remembers everyone's fastest time whether you stay in the pits or go to the lounge and it will start us in the proper order. The confusion comes in because the "leaderboard" on the right side of the screen does not reflect those times, it reflects the position of the drivers on the track with no relation to their fastest time. This is why people think the starting order gets screwed up, but it doesn't. iForce and I tested this last week and it always started us in the proper order even if the leaderboard showed we were in a different order and it didn't matter if we had gone to the lounge or not. So the whole thing about keeping people in the pits at certain times really doesn't do anything other than add confusion and complication. We really have no way of knowing what the order of fastest times is, but when we tested it with a small number of drivers (easy to manually keep track of) it started us correctly every time whether we had stayed in the pits or gone back to the lounge. 👍


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I'm all for an open qualifying session, just so long as everyone on track is really running laps. No goofing around during quali if you get my drift :sly:

If you catch up to someone and you're on a brilliant lap, just keep going until the end of the lap and then the faster car should get to keep going. Self policing should keep the qualifying neat :)
 
Brandon: If the game keep tracks of your best time, even if you exit to the settings menu, then I think it is easier to go with an open qualifying format. Sometimes people are late, and the open qualifying format is the easiest to accomodate everyone.

Or we can go with the F1 "knockout" qualifying format, with different tire compound for each Q session.
 
st1sj
Brandon: If the game keep tracks of your best time, even if you exit to the settings menu, then I think it is easier to go with an open qualifying format. Sometimes people are late, and the open qualifying format is the easiest to accomodate everyone.
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+1 This is my general opinion, but this was one of the topics that sparked a lot of debate in the original thread and many people were divided on it. I just can't think of any different way of doing it that doesn't add lots of confusion and extra work. Since these cars are slow and evenly matched, I don't think qualifying is really that big of a deal anyway. Some people are on tight schedules for the weeknight races so I don't want to do something that adds any real amount of time to the proceedings.


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StigsHero
+1 This is my general opinion, but this was one of the topics that sparked a lot of debate in the original thread and many people were divided on it. I just can't think of any different way of doing it that doesn't add lots of confusion and extra work. Since these cars are slow and evenly matched, I don't think qualifying is really that big of a deal anyway. Some people are on tight schedules for the weeknight races so I don't want to do something that adds any real amount of time to the proceedings.


B
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Open quali is good, but I disagree that qualifying isn't important. With the sprint nature of the races even if the person starting from last is 1 second faster per lap he'll probably never catch the 1st place car due to traffic.
 
Can please confirm what nights and times the events will be held? As i'm 16 hours ahead of EDT I won't be racing tuesday nights but hoping I can grid up at some stage, really need to get my head around exactly when i can.
 
Personally, I'd still go for what I was pitching in the last thread:

Everyone stays in the lobby, then either 1, 2, or 3 people at a time enter the track. The host starts a 4 lap race. Laps 2 and 3 count as your flying laps, and the best one of those counts as your time. If you have multiple people, have them wait 20 seconds for the first guy to go. Then when it's time to race, we line up one at a time on a chosen straight on the track, without crossing the finish line. It's a proven method that we use for the Integras and Miatas.

However, I'd be "open" (no pun intended) for open qualifying, too.

And yes, I should be there for the practice room. Got down to a 1:03.8 by tightening up the Diff a bit. Still have to catch the car out of the hairpins, but like PonyStig (don't know what else to call you man :lol:) said, it's predictable and not that hard to keep from spinning the tires.

In fact, I might be able to host one after this Remote race finishes.
 
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Waznz, the times in the OP should be accurate (the qualifying info is not). I'm thinking Friday night (Saturday morning for you) will probably be the best option for you because of the extreme time difference.

Mule, my main concern with that qualifying format is just the added time and work involved. For some of the drivers time is an issue due to work the next morning and I'd have to guess that the format you proposed adds at least a half hour to the proceedings. We did a similar format for the Indy 500 last week and it was incredibly fun but very time consuming and labor intensive. Since we're doing 3 different nights I need to keep things as simple as possible because I'll have my hands full keeping track of everything.

Here's what we'll try tonight: I will reset the track so all times are cleared, half of the room can go out to qualify for 6 minutes (try to keep space between yourselves) while the other half of the room can "watch race". I will call everybody back to the lobby and the second half of the room can go out for 6 minutes while the first group watches. I will watch from the live timing monitor and try to keep track of everyone's fast times, then when we start the race I'll double-check to make sure everybody's in the correct order (for testing stage only). If it works, then we're good, nice and simple and quick.

I will type out instructions so everybody can see what to do, but I think it will be fairly easy for everyone. The whole process shouldn't take more than 15 minutes so it shouldn't add any real length to the event. 👍


B
 
I'm leaving work now and should have a room up in about an hour. I'll post the details here when I get it online.


B
 
Day off today so I'll look for you online soon. As to event times, unclear as to "OP"? If I'm getting this right , and forgive me if i sound stupid but this is first time i've tried to enter an online event, tuesday 8pm, friday 10pm and saturday 2pm? If so then i can make fri and sat races (fingers crossed i'm reading thread correctly)
 
Just about this quali thing, for the 4 lap race, how are the fastest lap times recorded? Does someone download to replay and write them down or something? It sounds a good idea but I don't really get how this bit works! Just me being dumb :) lol

I like open qualifying for its simplicity, however, I for one am sick to death of it! I'd love to do an F1 style qualifying with knock-out rounds in it, but I don't really think it would fit well with this series.

Oh also, random Q, who's that in your avvy Mule?
 
MindlessRiff
Just about this quali thing, for the 4 lap race, how are the fastest lap times recorded? Does someone download to replay and write them down or something? It sounds a good idea but I don't really get how this bit works! Just me being dumb :) lol

I like open qualifying for its simplicity, however, I for one am sick to death of it! I'd love to do an F1 style qualifying with knock-out rounds in it, but I don't really think it would fit well with this series.

Oh also, random Q, who's that in your avvy Mule?
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The race steward would be watching the timing board in watch race (with the help of others if there are too many cars on track). It's a very accurate way of qualifying and very realistic (and stressful).

Oh and :lol: nascar :lol:
 
Sorry, I forget that not everyone here is a forum junkie like some of us. lol

You're correct on the times, but Tuesday is actually 8:15 to try to fit a few schedules. That's the time qualifying will start and the race will start immediately after qualifying.


I have a practice room open.

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