Car Of The Month Club! EVENTS COMPLETE

[LancerEvo7]

^ And the Shelby runs out of gear around 35-40mph so I'd guess that would be a problem.

IIRC the Shelby actually has decent gearing considering it's a muscle car, I think it can do around 160 or so. We'll still be hitting it at the 'Ring, but it beats 120 like the rest of the muscle cars.

 

[Marcus Garvey]

You can float it to 158 but it hits at 155 at WOT. You only run into the rev limiter 5 times or so on course, but it just sits on it from Dottinger Hohe to the Hohenrain Chicane.

 

[BrandonW77]

Got a Ring room open. We'll start off simple and work up to the Cobra.

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[OwensRacing]

Got a Ring room open. We'll start off simple and work up to the Cobra.

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Be there ASAP

 

[BrandonW77]

Well I'd say that was rather successful. I think the name GTPub attracted a few GTP racers and others followed people like Carr, Saga and Lancer into the room. We had a dozen people, the majority were GTP racers and the racing was (mostly) clean.

The first batch of cars (Jag XKR, TVR, M3) seemed to work well together, the Audi R8 and Nismo did not, the Aston is a pig (at least at GVS). Still had fun though and I think this might work out nicely. 👍

 

[Marcus Garvey]

Yeah, I had a good time. I don't think I've been in a room driving that long in one session in months. I was sobering up towards the end there. Time to burn one. It was good to see some friendly folks out there again, and I look forward to running again in the future.

 

[carracerptp]

I had to jump out. Got a storm warning with a tornado watch, around here that means "power surge is coming".
Good new is my TV cable fix worked 👍

 

[BrandonW77]

I couldn't really tell which were Randoms and which were GTP members (except for GTP_Litchi) but you guys kept saying Hi to them so I presumed you knew them from here or that they were at least clean racers on your friends list. Either way, those are the drivers I'm hoping to attract and it seemed to work pretty well, hope it continues to work.

I don't have a whole lot of public room experience, if you guys have any advice, thoughts or suggestions about what works feel free to share. Shorter races or longer races? Stay at one track or move around? Let the room vote on tracks? Penalties?

 

[Marcus Garvey]

The race lengths were fine. I'm indifferent towards the track selection, much as I am to the car selection. No penalties.

 

[BrandonW77]

I don't like penalties, seems like they're usually ON in pub rooms though. I think 10-15 minutes is a good race length, seems like pub rooms are usually only 2 or 3 laps (I've never understood this). I'm thinking maybe two races per track then switch to a new track/car combo (as a loose guideline, season to taste)..

 

[carracerptp]

I couldn't really tell which were Randoms and which were GTP members (except for GTP_Litchi) but you guys kept saying Hi to them so I presumed you knew them from here or that they were at least clean racers on your friends list. Either way, those are the drivers I'm hoping to attract and it seemed to work pretty well, hope it continues to work.

I don't have a whole lot of public room experience, if you guys have any advice, thoughts or suggestions about what works feel free to share. Shorter races or longer races? Stay at one track or move around? Let the room vote on tracks? Penalties?

Most of the guys I knew have GTP accounts but don't come here that often. They are great racer, very clean.


99% of time in a public room people at this groups level don't need much practice so give time for 1 lap and start.

Keeping the races a little on the long side makes for small rooms but better quality driving/drivers.

Penalties never.

Kick people that are bad quickly and without hesitation. If a respected member points a finger, warning, next compliant is a kick .If a respected member says kick. Give them time to defend themselves (say sorry, explain etc.), then kick.

 

[VBR]

I don't have a whole lot of public room experience, if you guys have any advice, thoughts or suggestions about what works feel free to share. Shorter races or longer races? Stay at one track or move around? Let the room vote on tracks? Penalties?

Most of my time in GT5 has been in public lobbies, so here's my advice.

If you want to make the room the best it can be, always include the word "CLEAN" in the room title (for instance my room is usually called "FIA_Clean-Pro, Stock"). There are clean rooms & dirty rooms, so no one will be confused if it's clearly marked. I only ever go in public rooms that say clean or fair in the title, if there's no description then I won't even bother entering.

As for penalties, having them off & damage on light will attract the cleaner drivers & sim-racer types. Just make sure to tell them where the track boundaries are in your opinion. A room called "GTP_OLR-Clean" would take care of that for most people. Also, when new guys enter type something along the lines of; "ATTENTION NEW DRIVERS! Penalties are off, so drive extra clean or you'll be kicked!"

Races between 10-15 minutes are usually best, you're spot on with that, with reverse grids also. Any shorter & you won't get a proper race, any longer & people entering the room will generally lose patience & leave. Sometimes a short qually sessions of 6-8 minutes is fun, if you remember to set the grid order back to Fastest First that is!

Some rooms will stay on 1 track for 2 races, alternating between a spec race & a shuffle race is fun. Most rooms will change track every race though. If you let people vote, you might end up racing on tracks that you don't like, or that aren't suitable for the car/pp track combo. So, choosing them yourself is best imo. Shuffle rooms tend to fill up a lot quicker that other rooms, so I sometimes start with a few shuffle races & then change to spec races.

I agree with kicking bad drivers quickly, especially if someone you know & trust has reported them to you. An alternative would be to ask members in the room to call a kick out vote, so they can decide who stays & who go's. They just press the triangle button over their PSN ID & select it, everyone apart from the host can do this.

 

[Naptown25rs]

Is there gonna be any organized shenanigans tonight?

 

[BrandonW77]

Good info, thanks guys. I think 10-15 minute races are good for the reasons stated above, long enough to get a decent race but not so long that people in the lobby get bored and leave. I have no reservations about kicking people, I had one hand on the banhammer last night because somebody kept typing
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.....but he cleared it up promptly and apologized, no issues after that.

Penalties off and damage on light is my preference, this way there's a punishment for bad driving but it won't ruin an innocent bystanders race. I think full damage does more harm than good and penalties usually harm the victim more than the culprit. Plus, ghost cars have no place in a proper race. If people misbehave they will receive the swift boot.

I agree about track selection too, some cars can be great to drive on certain tracks and terrible on others. Case in point, the Aston at GVS was terrible but on other tracks it can be fun. I plan on finding my favorite cars from the recommended garage and finding tracks those cars work well, having a kind of master list so I know car A runs well on tracks B, C and, car Z runs well on tracks Y, X and W, etc. This is something that will grow over time and I'll have everything posted in an easy to find place for others to reference if they want to open a room. We'll expand beyond the recommended garage too, I'm just using it as an easy way to get started but it will probably be a regular feature since everyone has instant access to the cars and tuning is prohibited.

Is there gonna be any organized shenanigans tonight?

I plan on shenanigans...............can't say for sure how organized they'll be.

 

[RDAardvark]

I plan on shenanigans...............can't say for sure how organized they'll be.

Sounds like someone has a date!

 

[LancerEvo7]

Speaking of shenanigans, I realized after the Grand Valley race that perhaps we should refrain from our pre-race shenanigans so as to not confuse the randoms.

 

[BrandonW77]

Sounds like someone has a date!

Doesn't mean he's getting any!

Speaking of shenanigans, I realized after the Grand Valley race that perhaps we should refrain from our pre-race shenanigans so as to not confuse the randoms.

I agree with that and was thinking it last night while watching you do donuts in the first hairpin. I'd like for people who haven't raced with us to get the impression that it's an organized operation that they want to continue to race with. So we'll need to avoid shenanigans, dress in our Sunday-best and get out the good dinner-ware. 👍

 

[Naptown25rs]

Ugh... The network is down for maintenance, supposedly will be back up by 19:00 EDT.

 

[BrandonW77]

^ That should be right around the time I'm loggin on, perfect timing!

 

[Marcus Garvey]

I'll be on at some point this evening, but it may not be until near midnight. I might miss the room tonite.

 

[BrandonW77]

Not as much as it will miss you!!

 

[BrandonW77]

I'm going to open a public room in a few minutes. Feel free to join me.

 

[OwensRacing]

I'm going to open a public room in a few minutes. Feel free to join me.

Man I had a phone call and planned to get some racing done shortly after. Well two hours later. . . Uggggh but my buddy and I discussed a bunch of things which is always fun. One of them friends you can just talk for hours. We both have ideas and always bounce them of each other.

 

[BrandonW77]

Last night I opened a room with the same name and same specs as we had Monday night...............in 45 minutes only two Randoms popped in and they both left before ever setting a tire on the track. I guess I need a few of you guys in the room to sweeten the pot, kinda like putting a few of your own dollars in the tip jar so it doesn't look empty. People are more likely to join a room with a few racers, not so likely to join an empty room.

I got to play around with more cars from the R Garage though and found, yet again, that all PP's are not created equal (insert joke here). Example, the Mini and Peugot 207 are within 1pp of each other but they Mini was 1.5 seconds faster around Rome.........that's ridiculous. As I said, I'm not very experienced with the R Garage so I'm basically just trying to educate myself, see if there are any cars that pair up well and find which cars are good and which ones are junk. If I plan to regularly have public rooms open I'd like to get a handful of good cars/tracks in my toolbox to choose from and I'll expand from there.

Cars I like so far:
Nismo 380RS Super Laggera
TVR Tamora
Maserati Gran Turismo
Camaro SS
BMW M3
High End Performance G37 (almost drives too good)
Jag XKR
Merc SLS AMG (appears to be dependent on the track)

 

[Naptown25rs]

Probably not what you want to hear, but Shuffle racing, especially the lower PP variety, seems to be where its at if you want to draw in a full crowd of clean, decent racers...

I logged on last night about 5 minutes after you left and found 4 or 5 shuffle rooms with 10+ people in them. I raced for about 3 hours and the two rooms I was in were always hanging around 12-16 people.

Of course there is the odd chance that you get an absolute turd, but most of the random cars I get (most I've never driven before) turn out to be fine in that setting.

 

[Torzilla]

Ive also noticed better racing in shuffle rooms. Rooms with tire restrictions tend to have a lower number of drivers but the ones that are there are much cleaner, Id expect a non-tuning room would have the same effect.

Probably not what you want to hear, but Shuffle racing, especially the lower PP variety, seems to be where its at if you want to draw in a full crowd of clean, decent racers...

I logged on last night about 5 minutes after you left and found 4 or 5 shuffle rooms with 10+ people in them. I raced for about 3 hours and the two rooms I was in were always hanging around 12-16 people.

Of course there is the odd chance that you get an absolute turd, but most of the random cars I get (most I've never driven before) turn out to be fine in that setting.

 

[Marcus Garvey]

Yes, names bring more names. This is a problem for event registration as well, where people won't register for a period until close to the end of registration or other people sign up in their class. That is why you noticed a lot of people in the room earlier were apparently familiar with most of the folks that arrived later on. A number of reasons for this exist in real world racing from simply not wanting to waste the effort to compete without a field large enough for contingency prizes, or without enough of a challenge, to those who see a name on the pre-reg attendance sheet and want to see how they measure up.

I think that as long as you have the GTP title, sport tyres to keep out the riffraff, and a couple of known folks in the room; you won't have an attendance problem regardless of shuffle or spec type racing.

 

[BrandonW77]

I've only done shuffle racing a couple times, after getting a pickup truck and an SUV I kinda swore it off. Maybe it's better now? I don't even really know how it works, probably couldn't create a shuffle room if I tried.

I'm online, messing around for a couple hours, gonna see if I can find a shuffle room and see what it's all about.

 

[BrandonW77]

Did some shuffle racing, it was fun and the room was packed with 12-16 at all times. Racing was as clean as you could hope for. They need to ditch the old muscle cars though, Lancer got an old Charger at Monza and was a 110mph rolling chicane.

How do you do the settings? He kept changing the numbers but I couldn't tell what they meant or how they worked.

 

[Naptown25rs]

I've never ran a shuffle racing lounge of my own, but my understanding is as follows...

The "shuffle base" is supposed to be the median PP level for the cars involved in the race, not sure if that's an average, some are limited down or what but all cars should be around that number.

The "shuffle ratio" has to do with the car you get based on previous race finishing order. So if the number is 0 or 1 and you finish last in a turd, you have just as much chance of getting a turd in the next race. If the number is higher and you finish last, you are theoretically supposed to end up with a better car in the next race.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong...